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    Quote Originally Posted by bballcrazy View Post
    Pre covid they had alot of talent. I dare say they were even more stacked than PBA if you count the imports. Right now is a shadow of former self though as most of them move on to the other leagues after covid. For e,g ABL had ex nba players like OJ Mayo and Renaldo Balkman, and then Bobby Ray Parks was drafted first in PBA but in the ABL he was just an above average player.
    Boy Ray Parks may looked like above average but he got the awards and the wins.. as for the much more impressive stats, Munzon was a beast in abl a dud in the weakest team in the pba aside being in the team of scrubs.. Mikey Williams a above average player for saigon heat was phenomenal in pba..

    But youre right I can say.. ABL pre covid can be in the same level as Bay Area Dragons
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
    1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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    Currently watching the ABL livestream of Zamboanga and this Arthur guy is good, height is around 6-3/6-4 lefty with good handles. Will he apply for this year's PBA draft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bballcrazy View Post
    Basketball all the while has been popular as a recreational sport in Singapore, but we are restricted in a sense because we have small population. Maybe 3 million plus true locals only. Also, we do not have a local pro league in terms of development. Sports also not seen as a viable career because many other ways to earn more money, but in other countries like Philippines, if you can play in the PBA you are earning big bucks and treated as celebs. So it is essentially their bread and butter but in Singapore is more like hobby then survival.
    Malaysia now are trying to compete as they already hiring naturalized player to match up against bigger teams, Vietnam's basketball popularity is also on rise and they have professional league there, Thailand meanwhile want to improved this time around after not a good result last Asia cup qualifiers.. How about Singapore? Is there any chance to be competitive in Asia? How about hiring naturalized players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
    Malaysia now are trying to compete as they already hiring naturalized player to match up against bigger teams, Vietnam's basketball popularity is also on rise and they have professional league there, Thailand meanwhile want to improved this time around after not a good result last Asia cup qualifiers.. How about Singapore? Is there any chance to be competitive in Asia? How about hiring naturalized players?
    No chance. We are competitive in SEA at most due to various reasons stated above. We tried to naturalized Justin Howard before if I'm not wrong but not able to.

    That said, we have two young slingers that are 18yo. 6'1 Zach Helzer who has played HS ball in the States. (Frankly seen some of his highlights didn't look too impressive but he played well in his first slinger game) and 18yo Mah 6'3 long athletic guard.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCQhmovy1OQ

    Sheesh John Amores is really good yesterday


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlIBSvGZn68

    And hoping Jeremy Arthur will be able to fix his requirements for the next pba draft

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    I was not impressed with Amores' play. He shot a lot of ill-advised 3's.

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    I read in FB that FIBA has stopped recognizing ABL. It is not a FIBA sanctioned event anymore. That's why the "Invitational" tag in the tournament. Sorry can't find the link since I read it weeks ago.
    Last edited by cocoyg; 01-04-2023 at 01:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoolAid View Post
    Currently watching the ABL livestream of Zamboanga and this Arthur guy is good, height is around 6-3/6-4 lefty with good handles. Will he apply for this year's PBA draft?
    He was in the draft last year, was impressive in the combine and scrimmages but just like Cedric Barefield and Keith Datu his papers did not make it on time for draft day, maybe this year he'll apply once again

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocoyg View Post
    I read in FB that FIBA has stopped recognizing ABL. It is not a FIBA sanctioned event anymore. That's why the "Invitational" tag in the tournament. Sorry can't find the link since I read it weeks ago.
    Looks like EASL has taken their spot

    https://www.fiba.basketball/news/fib...ball-in-region

    "EASL has demonstrated a great operational capability to organize a high-level competition for top clubs, and a strong commitment to elevate the sport of basketball in East Asia within the FIBA regulatory framework for leagues,? said FIBA Executive Director Asia Hagop Khajirian. ?We are delighted to grant long-term recognition and support to the EASL as the exclusive platform of its kind in East Asia,? added Khajirian.

    Said EASL CEO Matt Beyer: ?EASL is thrilled to receive FIBA?s support for the launch of our league. With top teams from the Greater China region, Japan, Korea, and the Philippines, we are confident it will become one of the top professional basketball competitions in the world by 2025. We also look forward to aligning with FIBA?s vision to strengthen domestic clubs and league competition in East Asia with a potential fan base of over 2 billion people, which will contribute to FIBA?s global club championship ambitions.?

    The agreement follows EASL?s staging of four successful pre-season tournaments over the past three years, featuring elite club teams from the top leagues in Asia, including CBA (China), B.LEAGUE (Japan), KBL (South Korea), PBA (Philippines), SBL (Chinese Taipei), and ABL (Southeast Asia). EASL?s week-long The Terrific 12 tournament held in Macao in September 2019 attracted both sellout live audiences and more than 117 million viewers worldwide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
    Malaysia now are trying to compete as they already hiring naturalized player to match up against bigger teams, Vietnam's basketball popularity is also on rise and they have professional league there, Thailand meanwhile want to improved this time around after not a good result last Asia cup qualifiers.. How about Singapore? Is there any chance to be competitive in Asia? How about hiring naturalized players?
    Dont expect crazy naturalizations from SG, theyre not gonna spend crazy money on basketball but rather invest it on other sports. Which is honestly financially sound.

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    Prefer to watch T1 league now as ABL feels like lower competition. Tainan has two giants in 7'5 Sim Bhullar and 7'6.5 Deguara. Quite hilarious when both of them are on the court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bballcrazy View Post
    Prefer to watch T1 league now as ABL feels like lower competition. Tainan has two giants in 7'5 Sim Bhullar and 7'6.5 Deguara. Quite hilarious when both of them are on the court.
    now thats what you call twin towers
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    Quote Originally Posted by hmbopbaduwap View Post
    HK has great club teams but ahs mediocre national team program..
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
    1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Yabuki View Post
    Dont expect crazy naturalizations from SG, theyre not gonna spend crazy money on basketball but rather invest it on other sports. Which is honestly financially sound.
    Maybe... but don't be surprise that they will do that in future.. Since the sport in the region in terms of popularity is rising.. After football, basketball is a sport that can invest too since their are more viewers and if more viewers, It means more sponsors and investment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by reamily View Post
    HK has great club teams but ahs mediocre national team program..
    Because they are only relying on imports... HK locals are not that good.. If i were FIBA, i will create a "Champions League" competition like AFC Club championships in FIFA... Maybe club competitions will be more competitive than national team set up....

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    Breakout game by James Kwekuteye as the Valientes routed Bangkok by 45


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    Quote Originally Posted by bballcrazy View Post
    T1 League now attracting all the past talents ABL had like Sam Deguara, Jason Brickman etc. Also has Dwight Howard in it.
    yeah, I agree, ABL should combine with East Asia League to survive in the long run.
    ABL just restarted their season. And all the players you mentioned were under contract in T1 League. So if an ABL team wants them, you need to buy out their contract.

    The ABL starting to get bigger in their 10th season by convincing FUBON BRAVES to join the league, it was just derailed by the Pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supremo30 View Post
    ABL just restarted their season. And all the players you mentioned were under contract in T1 League. So if an ABL team wants them, you need to buy out their contract.

    The ABL starting to get bigger in their 10th season by convincing FUBON BRAVES to join the league, it was just derailed by the Pandemic.
    Ex-NBA player Mario Chalmers will play for Zamboanga Valientes this ongoing 2023 ABL Invitational tournament.

    https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/01/2...XG66l63WNFnoSM
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