EL 2022/23 - Gameday 12

[Jazz]

08/12/2022
Alba Berlin vs Fenerbahce Beko
Panathinaikos OPAP vs EA7 Emporio Armani Milano
Maccabi Playtika Tel Aviv vs Valencia Basket
KK Partizan vs Crvena Zvezda
Real Madrid vs Monaco

09/12/2022
Zalgiris Kaunas vs Anadolu Efes
Olympiacos vs Virtus Segafredo Bologna
FC Barcelona vs Lyon-Villeurbanne
Cazoo Baskonia vs FC Bayern Munchen

[Nemanja95]

We 're playing derby againt our biggest rival. Day after we found out, president of Serbia has partcipated in Camapzzo record transfer for Serbian basketball, maybe even Serbian sport.

In arena will attend fans of CZ, in special sector what is approved by police, you can immagine how is police independent in states like Serbia. Despite, this isn't case by years, including last derby in Aba league, when CZ has been host, when our fans are not attended the game.

More then obvious, there are not equal conditions, like there aren't last 10 years. Since,ex-war agitators has came in power, with president of Serbia, self-proclaimed ex one of the leaders of ultras CZ fans.

However, I believe in vicory, although I completely understand if we lose. There isn't event of happening or builing image for World. We 're miles away from basic moral and civilizational values, like state, as well as society.

We perflectly know what's going on if we would be better on the court they try to provoke incidents with fans, in regard we're host team, we will be pusnihed financially and with closing the arena few games. If they don't succeed to make incidents and if they lose, they will try in any way in Aba league to be 1st in regular season to have home court advantage in final, what means they certainly win, because main play in these games are not on the court.. If we somehow win Aba league, next season, financially CZ will have far bigger budget with same advantages out of the court.

We have watching things like this, last 10 years, we will watch same in future, under this government and of course this president.

[Obina]

Partizan against the rest of the world... With tied both hands and legs... Part 100000000.

[Levenspiel]

I tend to buy the narrative when it comes to corrupt autocracies like that of Vucic, Erdogan, Orban, etc. Sad for the fans of either side. the competition is tainted. (in Turkey this is also apparent in football, Basaksehir's and Trabzon's titles are likely tainted, imho).

[Nemanja95]

Exatcly. It's interesting how people who are against authoritarian government, but are fans of clubs who are privilleged from same goverment, accept and try to normalize conditions in sport, on other hand they strongly criticize same problems and same principles in politics and society. How can sport be right, when anything in state like this is disaster ?

[coinho]

Partizan against the rest of the world... With tied both hands and legs... Part 100000000.

Hahhahahaha, thats what they think.

Just wanna ask, did the president gave money for Obradovic, Punter, Exum, Nunnely, Lessort, Leday, Papapetrou?

Cmon guys, Partizan have at least 50% bigger budget then CZ this year.

[Nemanja95]

Hahhahahaha, thats what they think.

Just wanna ask, did the president gave money for Obradovic, Punter, Exum, Nunnely, Lessort, Leday, Papapetrou?

Cmon guys, Partizan have at least 50% bigger budget then CZ this year.

Based on what, you think we have 50% bigger budget then CZ ? Fact there we have expensive team, doesn't deny fact CZ is privileged with budget even more higher, and out of the court like agitation of state president in transfer and controlling of referees and management of Aba league.

Why we have this budget, although president could influence to have lower. Probably because results of his favourite club in these circumstances, makes him more pleased, because he would feel more powerful then Obradovic in basketball where is Obradovic best. Also,politically he has excuse to say, what you want, you have money, expensive team, you didn't make results, and I m guilty again, because you weren't good enough.

[coinho]

Based on what, you think we have 50% bigger budget then CZ ? Fact there we have expensive team, doesn't deny fact CZ is privileged with budget even more higher, and out of the court like agitation of state president in transfer and controlling of referees and management of Aba league.

Why we have this budget, although president could influence to have lower. Probably because results of his favourite club in these circumstances, makes him more pleased, because he would feel more powerful then Obradovic in basketball where is Obradovic best. Also,politically he has excuse to say, what you want, you have money, expensive team, you didn't make results, and I m guilty again, because you weren't good enough.

Now i can start discussion with u but i wont because that is boring for people here.

Idk why are you boring people on this forum about that shit, u have so many Serbian forums about basketball and u can discuss about this political things on them.

But if u gonna start discussion on Serbian forum like this, everyone gonna make fun of you, thats why u are typing that non sense things here and dont do that on some Serbian forum where u can really discuss about those things.

[Nemanja95]

Now i can start discussion with u but i wont because that is boring for people here

Idk why are you boring people on this forum about that shit, u have so many Serbian forums about basketball and u can discuss about this political things on them.

But if u gonna start discussion on Serbian forum like this, everyone gonna make fun of you, thats why u are typing that non sense things here and dont do that on some Serbian forum where u can really discuss about those things.

It's very funny you call on numerosity like one of indicator of true, when everybody knows in Serbia, fans of CZ are more numerous. If your standpoint would be sustainable, that will mean fans of CZ have distance from their supporting club, or there are many people who don't support any of these two clubs. How much is realistically one of two options, or both, everybody can estimate.

Unfortunately, in state like Serbia, everything is political thing, in some way. I understand you don't want discuss about politics, you have justified reason for that.

[Toruko]

PAO stinks!

[MikeMaccabiFan]

PAO stinks!

Maccabi stinks too... Or more likely, its coach.

And it is independent of how today game ends. Win, probably. But we will have 4-5 losses after that and season will be finished.
Valencia came to loose, with normal coach this game should have ended 30 difference. Shame how our team looks.

[R1ou]

Devon Hall should be suspended for that miss.

[Axl Rose Is God]

ataşehir ?lker graveyard should be ashamed of berliners, we should play in germany to have real fans. and kudos to ma boi carsen

[R1ou]

Armani should stick with Messina if they are looking to break any negative record that has still to be broken

[Jazz]

Milano really shouldn't have lost this one. Bacon is such a game changer for PAO though.

[R1ou]

Milano really shouldn't have lost this one. Bacon is such a game changer for PAO though.

Ofc they should when they drop a 10 point lead 2 times in the 4th Q.

[saras]

great win in a bad game for us without walters (his absence was obvious offensively we played without any system) and grigonis and being -15 some minutes before the start of the 4th quarter. williams looks tired,we should get a pf asap. if we win valencia now we are in a good spot for the playoffs and then without any pressure for the games against barcelona (we usually easily lose there) and efes (we usually play very well against them).


whats more important though is that OAKA is starting to look like old OAKA and i mean the atmosphere, not necessarily the victories in close matches (after all we lost 3 of them already). next one in there is against olympiakos and its already marked by everyone due to the robbery 3 days ago in the greek league and some funny comments by mr bean (aka bar-joke-ass pr bartzokas)

[Levenspiel]

regardless of the current backstory, the game in Belgrade delivers again. Good to be a neutral fan, so much easier to watch.

Wow. Nedovic

[saras]

btw reallh how bad is this armani. but im really glad and enjoy seeing messina and the likes of him (like pesic in the past barcelona teams) that are ruining the basketball with such a slow tempo-low possesion games

[Obina]

Nedaaaaaaaaaaaa