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You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!
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Originally posted by Toruko View PostHe didnt look very anxious either and he really was able to create for his team mates.You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!
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Originally posted by fasoulaki View PostWatch the third quarter again and you will see that after several failed theoretical easy attempts to score. He started passing to his teammates. He lost his confidence.
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Originally posted by Toruko View PostIt doesnt look like he got mixed to the group like Doncic did with Slovenia
For FIBA you need a reliable shooter like Dirk was. I am sure if they would have more time to adapat they would play better together.You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!
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Folks, it was just a bad defensive night for us, and an amazing night for Germany. It happens. That's the game and the nature of single elimination formats.
I don't think there is any in depth analysis that needs to be done. If one of those two things was different (or both a little bit different), we would have won.
As others have said here, it's important that we keep the same coach and the same core, we incorporate some new blood and just do better mentally next time. I believe that this comes easier with experience and cohesion.3rd, Euroleague IBN prediction game 2019
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He scored 31 points in 30 minutes. Lol. If you need him to score 40 to win you’re not going anywhere. His teammates are the problem. Dorsey is too streaky thus very inconsistent. Calathes, Sloukas and Papanikolaou have seen better days. Papagoannis has not developed as expected. Pappapetrou stinks. He is not carrying this cast to a Gold medal. A slip up was inevitable. They need help. I overrated their team big time.Silver medal 2012 Olympics prediction game.
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Originally posted by usagre View PostHe scored 31 points in 30 minutes.Last edited by fasoulaki; 09-16-2022, 01:58 PM.You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!
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Originally posted by fasoulaki View PostBut he did not score in the crucial minutes. The most crucial minutes of the game were beginning of the 3rd quarter. But you are right. Nobody else apart from Larentzakis was able to give something to this team.Silver medal 2012 Olympics prediction game.
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Originally posted by Toruko View PostItoudis couldnt come up with a plan to integrate Giannis on the offensive system of the NT. It looked like Kawhi with Toronto Raptors. The team played something and Giannis played something else but coaches alone are not the problem, not the only one at least.
My conclusion is that Greece doesnt provide the necessary surrounding to help Giannis.PAO EUROPEAN CHAMPION 1996 - 2000 - 2002 - 2007 - 2009 - 2011
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Originally posted by Victorious View PostGiannis is the top scorer of the tournament. If anything Itoudis did just fine on that regard. The stats speak for themselves. Almost 30 points per game. The only one player who comes close to Nick Galis. What's next? That Giannis has to average 40? The problem of all high quality teams is that they relied too much on their talent. I.e. offensive skillset. Deadly in a tournament like this.
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Originally posted by Toruko View PostI never blamed Giannis. You are lucky to have a humble player like him. I rather blamed his team mates who melted down his efforts and advantages that he created.
I think Greece will be even stronger next year and the year after. But they can still loose any K.O. game against a team with such percentages.
Given the way Greece lost, I am quite satisfied with Greece's performance overall.Last edited by Victorious; 09-18-2022, 11:14 AM.PAO EUROPEAN CHAMPION 1996 - 2000 - 2002 - 2007 - 2009 - 2011
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Originally posted by Victorious View PostI think blaming anyone is useless in this regard. In a series, I would say that you are right. But in one game it's just futile. Greece was one of the best teams in the tournament. They lost one game to the host team which had an amazing shooting night. Greece didn't play bad. There was no melt down. The competition system is wired in such a way that surprises happen.
I think Greece will be even stronger next year and the year after. But they can still loose any K.O. game against a team with such percentages.
Given the way Greece lost, I am quite satisfied with Greece's performance overall.
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Originally posted by Toruko View PostWhats the foundation of this optimism? Its an old team being one year older next year, other teams getting better and better and Greece cant expect much help from younger generations. Of course youll be good. Thats the point having Giannis in your team. Time flows and at the end our conclusion will probably be Greece could never win something with the best player in the world in his prime but if you are happy with the results I am too.
For now, continuation is the key. The Czechs, French, Spaniards, Germans etc. are at the current level because they have the same coach for years now. Greece is not going anywhere anytime soon. This is quite clear to me. This year was the start of a new cycle. And its core players can continue for a second Olympic cycle after that.Last edited by Victorious; 09-18-2022, 01:30 PM.PAO EUROPEAN CHAMPION 1996 - 2000 - 2002 - 2007 - 2009 - 2011
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Originally posted by Victorious View PostGreece didn't play bad.
Originally posted by Victorious View PostThere was no melt down.
Originally posted by Victorious View PostI think Greece will be even stronger next year and the year after.
Originally posted by Victorious View PostGiven the way Greece lost, I am quite satisfied with Greece's performance overall.Last edited by fasoulaki; 09-18-2022, 03:13 PM.You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!
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