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Originally posted by Killer Bob View PostYes 10 fouls more, when Turkey has played a level more aggressive and especially that block on Muric in the end of regular time, when ball clearly hit the table first was for sure in favour of Slovenia.
I'm very content with 2 the most important things. Luka has came in very good condition from the beach and Goran can still be difference maker.
By the way, Murices attempt had not hit the panel, it was flying in front of it. I watched it in slow-mo on the stream multiple times to make sure. But if we want to cherry pick some ref errors, for example, Hazer fouled Dragic before he shot, but he got 3 throws. But none of this matters cause we’re only preparing for the WCQ’s and EB here lol.Last edited by Furkan Korkmaz; 08-12-2022, 07:57 PM.
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Originally posted by okanial View PostFurkan was clearly tired, he missed several FTs, Slovenia expected him to take the last shot as well. That might be the common order but for this game it shouldn't have
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Originally posted by Furkan Korkmaz View PostYour players dont draw fouls like ours they shot more. Luka who does draw them, missed so many, he should definitely work on his FT shooting.
By the way, Murices attempt had not hit the panel, it was flying in front of it. I watched it in slow-mo on the stream multiple times to make sure. But if we want to cherry pick some ref errors, for example, Hazer fouled Dragic before he shot, but he got 3 throws. But none of this matters cause we’re only preparing for the WCQ’s and EB here lol.
I agree that that this game doesn't matter, but Ataman has looked very upset in the end.Last edited by Killer Bob; 08-12-2022, 09:49 PM.previously known as Beno
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Originally posted by Killer Bob View PostStats don't exactly prove your words. Incredible 50 Fts and 38 attempts for 3 for Turkey. Slovenia has attempted 7 3s less and had 22 FTs less. 6 Slovenian players with 4 or more fouls. Or maybe you wanted to say thank Turkey was trying to draw fouls shooting for 3?
I agree that that this game doesn't matter, but Ataman has looked very upset in the end.
Anyway, he seemed irritated at a particular decision by the referee not so much about the loss or whatever, who cared about this, I think it was good that the match had some tension on it though, the closer you can simulate a real game the more useful it will be to draw conclusions from.
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Well, no need to hide my head in the sand like an ostrich, referees favored us in most of positions and I got really pissed of watching this kind of shitty and biased refereeing in a preparation game where you ought to see your real level and take actions according to your weaknesses. We could win this game and I know this win would be promoted by some people as a big thing in media to pave the problems over for a short time.
The last position on Korkmaz was a clear foul for me, but as I said in a neutral court, we would hand this game to Slovenians in regular time with today's performance.
Putting aside the refereeing, the game was a intense one, despite Doncic did his usual work, I liked the defense of Osman on him. He didn't let easy buckets, when he is eager on defense, he can cope with the top guys. The rest was Doncic's magnificent talent. Korkmaz was like a scoring machine, Şengün and Şanlı are having a lot of problems on defense against physical and motional bigs. Yurtseven is not a master defensively, but could contribute to this team with his physicality defense. Anyway, beneficial game, Dragic still balling at top level though I think Slovenia needs a third guy who will regularly put something valuable on court apart from Doncic and Dragic if they want to repeat the same success. Can the rest of the guys shoulder a big role in Slovenian team, it is a question mark for me.Sports is not only considered as a superiority of physical capability. Perception, intelligence and morality assist it as well. The strong with less intelligence and comprehension can not cope with the less strong but with sufficient intelligence and comprehension. I like the sportsman who is intelligent, agile as well as morally upright.Mustafa Kemal ATATURK
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Originally posted by slice me nice View PostWell, no need to hide my head in the sand like an ostrich, referees favored us in most of positions and I got really pissed of watching this kind of shitty and biased refereeing in a preparation game where you ought to see your real level and take actions according to your weaknesses. We could win this game and I know this win would be promoted by some people as a big thing in media to pave the problems over for a short time.
The last position on Korkmaz was a clear foul for me, but as I said in a neutral court, we would hand this game to Slovenians in regular time with today's performance.
Putting aside the refereeing, the game was a intense one, despite Doncic did his usual work, I liked the defense of Osman on him. He didn't let easy buckets, when he is eager on defense, he can cope with the top guys. The rest was Doncic's magnificent talent. Korkmaz was like a scoring machine, Şengün and Şanlı are having a lot of problems on defense against physical and motional bigs. Yurtseven is not a master defensively, but could contribute to this team with his physicality defense. Anyway, beneficial game, Dragic still balling at top level though I think Slovenia needs a third guy who will regularly put something valuable on court apart from Doncic and Dragic if they want to repeat the same success. Can the rest of the guys shoulder a big role in Slovenian team, it is a question mark for me.
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What a disaster player this Melih is, I can't even watch games like this.
Ataman played just last qt with right players(without Tuncer and Melih) and we won by 10+ that period
Point is that we don't have deep roster. We have just 7 players plus Larkin.
That's why we should use short rotation because negative periods(with junk players on the court) in EB will be very hard to make up.
Larkin-Hazer-Kotkmaz-Bitim-Cedi-Kabaca-Sanli-Sengun. And that's it, we don't have more then this. But in big games(which is the most important) this is enough.
With this circus like tonight we don't have a chance in QF(even with Larkin) whoever will be opponent
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I dont know who wrote but even Sipahi(I don't like him at all) was better then this two morons who are destroying us
I mean from where Bugrahan and MElih draw such cocky style of playing and taking those shoots like some kind of stars. I respect players (like Saybir for instance) who are basketball ignorants, bat at least they don't make big damage to the team. I realy hate self-overated players, based on NOTHING
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Originally posted by slice me nice View PostWell, no need to hide my head in the sand like an ostrich, referees favored us in most of positions and I got really pissed of watching this kind of shitty and biased refereeing in a preparation game where you ought to see your real level and take actions according to your weaknesses. We could win this game and I know this win would be promoted by some people as a big thing in media to pave the problems over for a short time.
The last position on Korkmaz was a clear foul for me, but as I said in a neutral court, we would hand this game to Slovenians in regular time with today's performance.
Putting aside the refereeing, the game was a intense one, despite Doncic did his usual work, I liked the defense of Osman on him. He didn't let easy buckets, when he is eager on defense, he can cope with the top guys. The rest was Doncic's magnificent talent. Korkmaz was like a scoring machine, Şengün and Şanlı are having a lot of problems on defense against physical and motional bigs. Yurtseven is not a master defensively, but could contribute to this team with his physicality defense. Anyway, beneficial game, Dragic still balling at top level though I think Slovenia needs a third guy who will regularly put something valuable on court apart from Doncic and Dragic if they want to repeat the same success. Can the rest of the guys shoulder a big role in Slovenian team, it is a question mark for me.previously known as Beno
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Originally posted by janketa View PostWhat a disaster player this Melih is, I can't even watch games like this.
Ataman played just last qt with right players(without Tuncer and Melih) and we won by 10+ that period
Point is that we don't have deep roster. We have just 7 players plus Larkin.
That's why we should use short rotation because negative periods(with junk players on the court) in EB will be very hard to make up.
Larkin-Hazer-Kotkmaz-Bitim-Cedi-Kabaca-Sanli-Sengun. And that's it, we don't have more then this. But in big games(which is the most important) this is enough.
With this circus like tonight we don't have a chance in QF(even with Larkin) whoever will be opponent
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Dragic at 36 as guard are still very good usually is not the case at this age . Dragic looks like Ginobili at this age in NT wine simply gets better with age.
Italy 2021 summers run wasnt a fluke they will be again very dangerous team in eurobasket from watching them versus France yesterday.
Spain is not the same too many new names and Brown will not make the diffrence Rubio did in 2019 and 2021.
Greece with Giannis is looking like top 4 team in my book.
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Hi guys, I am not new here, but had to create a new profile, since I completely forgot the old one, including the email that I used.
Does anyone have any link with live stream for tonight’s friendly between Slovenia and Ukraine? Unfortunately it seems that the Turkish NTV will not stream this one. Thanks!
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Originally posted by Camoka View PostI agree with you and I think Kabaca is a question mark also in big games. If we want to do something special, there is no room for Melih and Tuncer. They are low level players. Tuncer has good games in BSL but that is all.Şanlı is not in good shape too. But also we need some players. Maybe Özdemiroğlu or Osmani can give us something.
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One word about Slovenia..
Great team with well shared roles(which is the most important)
Core of the team are Dragic-Cancar-Doncic(one of the best trio if not the best in the competition) Rest of the team are role players, not just static mediocre role players, but very good ones.
They were better then us by 10 points last night(with neutral referring), with Larkin it could be point or two. Without Melih and Tuncer and short rotation we maybe could have chance to beat them in good day
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