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Originally posted by Killer Bob View PostI hope you're not playing Calathes besides him.
The best solution would be playing Giannis on 5.
But then again, Giannis and Papagiannis on 4 and 5 can be a real haedache to the opponents as well.PAO EUROPEAN CHAMPION 1996 - 2000 - 2002 - 2007 - 2009 - 2011
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Originally posted by Victorious View PostPerhaps. Giannis on five with Sloukas, Dorsey as guards as a basic line up.
But then again, Giannis and Papagiannis on 4 and 5 can be a real haedache to the opponents as well.previously known as Beno
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Originally posted by Killer Bob View PostHe couldn't or wasn't used properly in 2019. He was MVP in Nba in 2019. You're 100% sure it won't happen again?
In 2021 and 2022 he was constantly putting 40pts+15reb playoofs games against best defences + with elite defence from himself.
If not Middleton Injury Bucks would be playing in finals now again.And even without Middleton he was close to beating Celtics .
It's totally different player who he was in 2019 and who he is 2022.
Nobody in USA said Gianni's is best player in 2019.Its was still between LeBron and KD.
In 2022 nobody even argues that he isn't.
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It's on Greek coach to figure something out. Giannis also definately isn't perfectly suited for european basketball and never will be. But he is just so long, athletic and skillfull at the same time that I don't think he can underperform as hard again.Originally posted by Jon_KoncakThat's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"
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Originally posted by Shawshank View PostHe failed in 2019 and 2020 nba playoofs too.He didn't know how to use his ridiculous weapons at that point when people were building walls , now he knows it's huge difference.
In 2021 and 2022 he was constantly putting 40pts+15reb playoofs games against best defences + with elite defence from himself.
If not Middleton Injury Bucks would be playing in finals now again.And even without Middleton he was close to beating Celtics .
It's totally different player who he was in 2019 and who he is 2022.
Nobody in USA said Gianni's is best player in 2019.Its was still between LeBron and KD.
In 2022 nobody even argues that he isn't.Last edited by Killer Bob; 06-08-2022, 10:45 AM.previously known as Beno
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Giannis never played pro ball in Europe, aside from his participation in the national team. He went form Greece's second league to the NBA, where he slowly became a pro. For the national team, he was only the go to guy in one tournament. That's in 2019. He needs time to adapt to the international game. Under Itoudis he will keep getting better in the next coming tournaments. Since Pitino was at the helm of Greece, the team is being build for Giannis' standard. Faster play and more shooting.PAO EUROPEAN CHAMPION 1996 - 2000 - 2002 - 2007 - 2009 - 2011
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Originally posted by Killer Bob View PostDon't you think that being MVP in Nba should have translated to be dominating force in Fiba too? But for some reason it didn't. I just gave some reasons, what might be the problem. Things might change this year, but not because he wasn't good enough few years ago and now he's.
So now Lebron is not top 3 player of all time because he had 2 bad fiba tournaments ? No he adjusted with later tournaments,like all time great players does.
If you think that Giannis and Jokic in 2019 was same players as they are in 2022 you simply dont watch nba.
Giannis 2022 is todays Shaq i dont care what walls and what white non atletic fiba dudes NTs gonna put on him ,he simply too big and too strong even for athletic americans to handle.Last edited by Shawshank; 06-08-2022, 11:35 AM.
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Originally posted by Shawshank View PostJokic also failed in 2019 world cup.It happens when players play in those rules rarely.Lebron also failed first few times in fiba.
So now Lebron is not top 3 player of all time because he had 2 bad fiba tournaments ? No he adjusted with later tournaments,like all time great players does.
If you think that Giannis and Jokic in 2019 was same players as they are in 2022 you simply dont watch nba.
Giannis 2022 is todays Shaq i dont care what walls and what white non atletic fiba dudes NTs gonna put on him ,he simply too big and too strong even for athletic americans to handle.
I'm watching Nba a lot. Nobody is defending anyone there. Luka's playoffs numbers are 32.5/9/8, with 58% TS. Only MJ is marginally better in points with a lot worse TS% in all time list.Last edited by Killer Bob; 06-08-2022, 12:05 PM.previously known as Beno
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Doncic is probably the best Euro player off all times, in his age such performance and numbers, that did nobody until now. If he stayed in Real I am sure it would be 4 times in a row until now.
There are players like for instance Saras with 4 EL titles or Bodiroga with two EL and medals with NT, but they did nothing in NBA, though as I know Saras tried there.
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Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
If not Middleton Injury Bucks would be playing in finals now again.And even without Middleton he was close to beating Celtics .
If you can’t make a difference against Brazil who says you will against France and Serbia?
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Ok I will not prove nothing to blind haters.
They still talking about Giannis2019 version and live in 2019.
World and sports world had change in last 3 years, including best basketball players name.
If Horfords,WilliamsTatums,Smarts,Brown best defensive nba team of last 5 years couldn't stop that alien and barely survive some white non athletic dudes will in fiba aha ok
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Originally posted by Shawshank View PostOk I will not prove nothing to blind haters.
They still talking about Giannis2019 version and live in 2019.
World and sports world had change in last 3 years, including best basketball players name.
If Horfords,WilliamsTatums,Smarts,Brown best defensive nba team of last 5 years couldn't stop that alien and barely survive some white non athletic dudes will in fiba aha ok
Nobody is saying that they will stop Giannis totally, it's enough to make him less efficient and force him to take shots he likes less. Calathes and Papa look as bad fit with him. Dorsey likes the ball a little too much to be great fit with Giannis either. Clogging the paint will be the strategy against Greece for sure. And then depends, how good will Giannis shoot from outside and what kind of plan will Greece coaches have.previously known as Beno
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