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Thread: Euroleague Final 4 2022 (Stark Arena- Belgrade, 19-21 May)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz View Post
    Correct, the London F4 in 2013 didn't work out. It was supposed to be there in 2014 too but Euroleague decided to move it to Milan instead.
    So you think Cologne 2021(without fans at all) is ok but London isn't? Or we should continue with 7 countries until infinity

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    Quote Originally Posted by paspalj View Post
    I might be wrong but I think that it’s much easier to promote your event in a city that actually cares about the sport. Citizens of Belgrade might not be interested in going to the stadium but at least they know the F4 is happening. Unfortunately basketball popularity is not exactly off the charts.

    Like, assuming Athens had a couple of ice hockey rinks, would we ever host some important event? I don’t think so. It feels strange to organize something and having literally no one care about it.
    In city like Belgrade or Kaunas you don't have need to promote basketball at all. If El have intention to promote this sport then F4 should be placed in countries like Poland, Belgium, Portugal, Sweden etc. Greeks, Turks and Spaniards will full the gym anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    So you think Cologne 2021(without fans at all) is ok but London isn't? Or we should continue with 7 countries until infinity
    No, I definitely think they should try different cities but London was a uniquely bad place for a F4. I think there is some idea that it is a good "hub city" for fans from other countries to travel to, plus with a lot of diaspora already living there. But it didn't work out. I think the big excuse was that it is a city with so many other entertainment options. It's tough to grow a sport or a competition like this when the media are determined to ignore it. Interestingly, even the NBA have stopped bringing games to London.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paspalj View Post
    I might be wrong but I think that it’s much easier to promote your event in a city that actually cares about the sport. Citizens of Belgrade might not be interested in going to the stadium but at least they know the F4 is happening. Unfortunately basketball popularity is not exactly off the charts.

    Like, assuming Athens had a couple of ice hockey rinks, would we ever host some important event? I don’t think so. It feels strange to organize something and having literally no one care about it.
    I believe big arena is priority too. Not everyone has as big arena as Belgrade. Ljubljana for example could be good host, but you can sell only 12.000 tickets there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    I believe big arena is priority too. Not everyone has as big arena as Belgrade. Ljubljana for example could be good host, but you can sell only 12.000 tickets there.
    Zagreb 16500, kaunas 15500... there are arenas even in basketball countries

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    Zagreb 16500, kaunas 15500... there are arenas even in basketball countries
    They're, still not as big as that in Belgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    They're, still not as big as that in Belgrade.
    Budapest arena, Lisbon Arena, Antwerp, Krakow etc all around 20000

    I have nothing about holding F4 in Belgrade every 4 years but as argument there are not big capacity arenas in Europe is ridiculous

    Suggestion to EL, every 4 years in Belgrade, Istanbul, Athens and Madrid

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    Budapest arena, Lisbon Arena, Antwerp, Krakow etc all around 20000

    I have nothing about holding F4 in Belgrade every 4 years but as argument there are not big capacity arenas in Europe is ridiculous

    Suggestion to EL, every 4 years in Belgrade, Istanbul, Athens and Madrid
    Not exactly basketball cities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    I believe big arena is priority too. Not everyone has as big arena as Belgrade. Ljubljana for example could be good host, but you can sell only 12.000 tickets there.
    Fair point.

    So if you want a “basketball” country and a big stadium it feels like the option become very limited :P
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    I don't know why EL doesn't consider Tel Aviv. I seriously can't remember the last time F4 was hosted there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by surfer View Post
    I don't know why EL doesn't consider Tel Aviv. I seriously can't remember the last time F4 was hosted there...
    The city/team needs to also show some interest. Maccabi hasn’t been to a F4 since 2014 and if it’s not a profitable event, I don’t see why anyone would be interested.
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    In regard what clubs play this year on f4, attendance will be probably problematic, especially on 2nd semi-final. In my opinon, biggest problem in f4 hosting is little number of interested countries, because there is no evident benefiits for hosting countries. This works about personal benefit and relationships between high placed politicians, some clubs and Euroleague officials.

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    I can't remember less interest(on IBN) for F4 then this year.

    Sometimes I even regret for all those Fener football fans that crowd here every time Fener advance to F4, at least there is something to argue against

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    I can't remember less interest(on IBN) for F4 then this year.

    Sometimes I even regret for all those Fener football fans that crowd here every time Fener advance to F4, at least there is something to argue against
    This forum will pick up again once the first semi-final tips off.

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    No Kruno Simon in F4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worrax View Post
    No Kruno Simon in F4.
    Kruno(player that used to be) is out a long time ago. That is one of the reasons why Efes is under perform and not clear favorite today.

    Ataman will probably try with Bryant and Anderson combine to replace him.

    TBH Simon wasn't big factor in last F4

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    Kruno(player that used to be) is out a long time ago. That is one of the reasons why Efes is under perform and not clear favorite today.

    Ataman will probably try with Bryant and Anderson combine to replace him.

    TBH Simon wasn't big factor in last F4
    Yes, agree... already a year, he's absent. I replaced him with your lovely Kalinic in my mind, for next season... if you are agree with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worrax View Post
    No Kruno Simon in F4.
    He not with Efes in Serbia at all or is he being left off the matchday roster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz View Post
    He not with Efes in Serbia at all or is he being left off the matchday roster?
    He is in Belgrade but wont play any game for Efes anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worrax View Post
    Yes, agree... already a year, he's absent. I replaced him with your lovely Kalinic in my mind, for next season... if you are agree with this
    I agree, just not in Fener

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