EuroLeague Rising Star 2021/2022

[Toruko]

In order to be able to play in the NBA you need to finish somehow. Without finishing abilities you wont create gravity and without gravity there is no chance you can create anything for others. Jokubaitis has only a chance of getting a serious role if he becomes an elite play maker in Euroleague. I think of someone like Sloukas when he was 29.

[Killer Bob]

In order to be able to play in the NBA you need to finish somehow. Without finishing abilities you wont create gravity and without gravity there is no chance you can create anything for others. Jokubaitis has only a chance of getting a serious role if he becomes an elite play maker in Euroleague. I think of someone like Sloukas when he was 29.

I believe it's important for Jakubaitis to develop off ball game and D.

[Serbian_Layup]

There are a lot of players in NBA that are not elite in anything but have consistent roles for years. Even our European players like Satoransky for example. It's just a question would you agree to have limited rotational minutes whether it's 10 or 15 minutes per game. It depends on ambition of a player. Satoransky agreed to such role, Micić on the other hand won't agree to that role, and will probably stay in Europe because no NBA team is willing to give ball in the hands of 29 y.o. rookie who doesn't have NBA star potential. If you are going after money, sure, you will go to NBA in whatever circumstances, but if you actually care about your career and want to leave a mark in European basketball, then you are probably going to do something like Micić - just stay in Europe.

[Toruko]

I believe it's important for Jakubaitis to develop off ball game and D.

His defense is not enough to survive there thats sure and yes if he wants a role he will have to find a way being efficient without the ball. I am to 99% with you.

[Straight forward]

Well, FOA, I'm happy we won't have a chance to find out who's right, Rokas will stay in Europe, that's his plans.

But, I would claim that Jokubaitis is a head of many players decision making wise and clutch wise (mental consistency of the game) than many great prospects probably even including such as G. Dragic, Marciulionis, Bogdan Bogdanovic or even Rubio. In my opinion, we only seen Doncic as more impressive young PG in EL this far regarding competing at elite level of EL and actually providing consistently all season long. Only injury slowed him down a bit, but it's a short stretch.

My point is that I see pretty insignificant athlete already Chris Paul dominating current NBA. If Jokubaitis can be elite at his craft as a point guard, he can be very very good. I claim that while Dragic definitely had quicker first stem and may be better scorer than Jokubaitis will ever be, Rokas definitely reads the game sensationally well for his age and super consistently. That's one of key moments which shouldn't be overlooked when we project his upside and even current abilities.

Jokubaitis is more physical as a player than Sloukas.

[Serbian_Layup]

Nba has change a lot since Udrih was factor there. Now you have stars and very specialised role players. He will need to be much better defender to even earn minutes.

Yes, Dragic looks as best comparison for him. But we have to know that Dragic was an unlikely story of success. He was tragic in the beginning, without Nash, he would have been back in Europe soon.

Agree with this. For the past few years it looks like NBA is heading to that direction.

[Killer Bob]

Well, FOA, I'm happy we won't have a chance to find out who's right, Rokas will stay in Europe, that's his plans.

But, I would claim that Jokubaitis is a head of many players decision making wise and clutch wise (mental consistency of the game) than many great prospects probably even including such as G. Dragic, Marciulionis, Bogdan Bogdanovic or even Rubio. In my opinion, we only seen Doncic as more impressive young PG in EL this far regarding competing at elite level of EL and actually providing consistently all season long. Only injury slowed him down a bit, but it's a short stretch.

My point is that I see pretty insignificant athlete already Chris Paul dominating current NBA. If Jokubaitis can be elite at his craft as a point guard, he can be very very good. I claim that while Dragic definitely had quicker first stem and may be better scorer than Jokubaitis will ever be, Rokas definitely reads the game sensationally well for his age and super consistently. That's one of key moments which shouldn't be overlooked when we project his upside and even current abilities.

Jokubaitis is more physical as a player than Sloukas.

Problem is that you're describing a role of first Pg in a team. It's very difficult to get that role, if you're not young lottery pick. Look at jam in Pg position in OKC, who has his rights.

[Straight forward]

What is exactly between those 2. Stars and specialized players. Isn't Bogdanovic exactly this for Hawks? He's more of a star type player than specialist in that sense, just not exactly reaching it. What would be the best example of something in between those 2? I mean there always were key players and role players...

[Serbian_Layup]

It's not just about athleticism or first step with Dragić, it's about agility, coordination, the way he was using his body in traffic, through finishing around basket. Similarly to how Ginobili moved and used his body. You can't say it's top athleticism, but just great coordination of movement along with great ballhandling skills. Not sure if you can learn that kind of coordination and agility.

[Killer Bob]

What is exactly between those 2. Stars and specialized players. Isn't Bogdanovic exactly this for Hawks? He's more of a star type player than specialist in that sense, just not exactly reaching it. What would be the best example of something in between those 2? I mean there always were key players and role players...

Bogdan and Bojan are great scorers/shooters, they don't need a ball a lot in their hands, so they're great complement to Trae and Mitchell. What would Jakubaitis do in those 2 clubs? He's not good defender to back up those 2 bad defenders and he needs the ball, which those 2 needs too and is not effective off ball.

[Toruko]

Bojan normally is too slow for the NBA and for his forward opponents but he is fucking strong and I mean really fucking strong and strength in the NBA means a lot. Strength in Euroleague doesnt mean that much which made Bojan more valuable than in Europe.

[Killer Bob]

Bojan normally is too slow for the NBA and for his forward opponents but he is fucking strong and I mean really fucking strong and strength in the NBA means a lot. Strength in Euroleague doesnt mean that much which made Bojan more valuable than in Europe.

Sure, but he makes money with his shooting. He has 40% for 3 in his career. Or those players from Europe, who made good career are elite in something or very big. Pg is for sure the most difficult position to be competitive, if you're from Europe.