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    Default Euroleague Regular Season: Week 4

    Zenit v Bayern Munich
    Fener v Unics Kazan
    Alba Berlin v Baskonia
    Asvel v Maccabi
    CSKA v Crvena Zvezda
    Monaco v Barça
    Olympiacos v Zalgiris
    Milano v Efes
    Real Madrid v Panathinaikos


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    Zenit v Bayern Munich 60-40
    Fener v Unics Kazan 50-50
    Alba Berlin v Baskonia 55-45
    Asvel v Maccabi 45-55
    CSKA v Crvena Zvezda 65-35
    Monaco v Barça 30-70
    Olympiacos v Zalgiris 60-40
    Milano v Efes 60-40
    Real Madrid v Panathinaikos 70-30
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    Is Dixon back to Fener(retirement)?

    If true this is comedy with Kokoskov's transfers. He did the worst job in EL history, I realy mean that. With such budget he managed to bring just one decent player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    Is Dixon back to Fener(retirement)?

    If true this is comedy with Kokoskov's transfers. He did the worst job in EL history, I realy mean that. With such budget he managed to bring just one decent player.
    Kokoskov was pretty good with those transfers. 20 wins is very solid achievement.
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    Zenit v Bayern Munich 70-30
    (Home court advantage for Zenit, plus so many injuries in German side.)

    Fener v Unics Kazan 65-35
    (Just a MUST WIN game for Fener, otherwise no sorries for all management and players.)

    Alba Berlin v Baskonia 55-45
    (Alba the last year's tough nut but this year's question mark. IMHO one of the most equal game of the week.)

    Asvel v Maccabi 45-55
    (Here i go with Maccabi, it's time. When they were underdogs last time in France..?)

    CSKA v Crvena Zvezda 70-30
    (Maybe it won't be so easy for Cska... they should respect this CZ team. With so many injuries they did a great job till now. Home court + deeper roster VS lion's heart. Yes, the tiger is more muscler, bigger and stronger but a lion never steps back.)

    Monaco v Barça 45-55
    (Is this week's cookie Monaco? Never say never!)

    Olympiacos v Zalgiris 90-10
    (Seems like the most clear win of the week.)

    Milano v Efes 45-55
    (Faith and devotion.)

    Real Madrid v Panathinaikos 90-10
    (Pao should get to "Obra-time mode" to steal a win, otherwise it will be just a touristic travel to Madrid.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    Kokoskov was pretty good with those transfers. 20 wins is very solid achievement.
    He just rode on Obradovic's transfers(De Colo, Gududric and Vesely). His boys did nothing except Pierre. This season the same story

    BTW, he comes back as development coach, but that doesn't change bitter impression about transfers last two seasons
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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    He just rode on Obradovic's transfers(De Colo, Gududric and Vesely). His boys did nothing except Pierre. This season the same story

    BTW, he comes back as development coach, but that doesn't change bitter impression about transfers last two seasons
    Following your logic, Fener should be the same or better this year, because roster looks better to me. But strangely your new coach cannot ride on with Kokoskov's team. Kokoskov wasn't by chance first European head coach in Nba.
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    Anybody know what is going on with Lucic? Is he injured or still suspended? If suspended what did he do to earn such a long one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncjazz View Post
    Anybody know what is going on with Lucic? Is he injured or still suspended? If suspended what did he do to earn such a long one?
    I'm not 100% sure. But I heard that he had Covid-19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    I'm not 100% sure. But I heard that he had Covid-19.
    Thanks, I would think he would be eligible to play next week then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    Following your logic, Fener should be the same or better this year, because roster looks better to me. But strangely your new coach cannot ride on with Kokoskov's team. Kokoskov wasn't by chance first European head coach in Nba.
    I am not saying Kokoskov is bad coach or Djordjevic is better, Just read what I wrote, not just today but 2 months ago

    Kokoskov is one of the best regarding tactics, knowledge and theory, but as rookie in EL he did miserable job with the transfers

    When you mentioned my logic, again the wrong conclusion, read better. Speaking of that, Kokoskov would do a better job with this roster then Djordjevic(at the end he picked all those players), but he already made a damage and there is no coach on the world who could win the title with this roster. So guilty is on him not Djordjevic.

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    Jordan Mickey on fire. Pretty much MIA first 3 games, but showing his skills today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    I am not saying Kokoskov is bad coach or Djordjevic is better, Just read what I wrote, not just today but 2 months ago

    Kokoskov is one of the best regarding tactics, knowledge and theory, but as rookie in EL he did miserable job with the transfers

    When you mentioned my logic, again the wrong conclusion, read better. Speaking of that, Kokoskov would do a better job with this roster then Djordjevic(at the end he picked all those players), but he already made a damage and there is no coach on the world who could win the title with this roster. So guilty is on him not Djordjevic.
    But, is roster really that bad? You obviously like Nando and Vesely, then you have Guduric, Henry, Pierre, Booker, Barthel, Polonara...not bad at all. It looks like good improvement in comparison to last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    But, is roster really that bad? You obviously like Nando and Vesely, then you have Guduric, Henry, Pierre, Booker, Barthel, Polonara...not bad at all. It looks like good improvement in comparison to last year.
    On paper it looks like, but not bringing just one fuckin top player will cost us a lot. Teo was free agent, then Mike James, we missed all of that

    Players you wrote could work but there is no improvement in quality, 3rd year in a row it's just De Colo - Vesely, we need one more player with leadership quality. Take in consideration that even Vesely isn't player that could lead the team, so at the end of the day it's just De Colo

    Beside that, strategy with just one pg(Henry) and De Colo as 1st creator is proved madness. De Colo is the best as shooting guard and 2nd creator, but he needs better then Henry beside him
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    same starting 5. he wants to get fired for sure!


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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    He just rode on Obradovic's transfers(De Colo, Gududric and Vesely). His boys did nothing except Pierre. This season the same story

    BTW, he comes back as development coach, but that doesn't change bitter impression about transfers last two seasons
    I agree with you about Kokoskov's transfers last season. Most of them already left and only Brown and Ulanovas went to other EL teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spittifiz View Post
    same starting 5. he wants to get fired for sure!
    Or maybe he thinks that starting 5 is the best option?

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    Why has OJ Mayo not played for UNICS so far?

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    please dont bring up the feners defense djordjevic. unics kazan played with kids looking like adults today. note that nando only played 14 minutes. it was 22 minutes against alba and 16 against pao. he should be on the court for at least 20 minutes but apparently djordjevic has a problem with that... we have 2 great players and some very darn good players who can play in any team in the league. this team shouldnt have lost to pao and alba. we have a very bad fixture in front of us and i hope we can grab a few wins.

    Quote Originally Posted by thegreekmeister View Post
    Or maybe he thinks that starting 5 is the best option?
    polonara should be in the starting five instead of booker. everybody knows that. when he puts polonara on the court fener starts playing better so no, its not the best option.
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    The only explanation for the game just finished is that Maccabi's roster play better with the blue jerseys.

    So I beg the team management to confirm them for the next game.

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