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**empyreanmaze** · 09-05-2022, 05:33 AM

Originally posted by Dotch View Post

Chot likes NPs that will make him look good. I mean, if no play is working, just give it to him and get out of the way type of player. that's why Ange or the likes of Malick Diouf cant thrive in his program

To be fair it's the same with every coach, the difference is Chot needs that player the whole game while a decent coach like Tab needs him for only certain stretches

**C2Hamm** · 09-05-2022, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by Dotch View Post

Chot likes NPs that will make him look good. I mean, if no play is working, just give it to him and get out of the way type of player. that's why Ange or the likes of Malick Diouf cant thrive in his program

Although i dont agree with coaches like that, i will not argue for the sole reason some teams pay a big price on some players. They expect big. But after seeing some of cam's vids, he doesnt really attack of the dribble like jc or blatche. So im not convince ccr will get him. If he does, i have no idea why.

**Silent Killer** · 09-09-2022, 08:55 AM

yep going back from my post before that the bulk of the players will come from abroad..

Chot can choose from two to three PBA teams for Gilas in November window

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/pba-board-approves-availability-of-players-from-two-to-three-teams-for-gilas-in-november-window-a795-20220909?utm_source=Facebook-Spin&utm_medium=Ownshare&utm_campaign=20220909-fbnp-basketball-pba-board-approves-availability-of-players-from-two-to-three-teams-for-gilas-in-november-window-a795-20220909-fbfirst

Who among PBA stars can play for Gilas in November window?

**IPC** · 09-09-2022, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

yep going back from my post before that the bulk of the players will come from abroad..

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/...220909-fbfirst

So we'll need to judge which PBA teams have the most useful PBA players, most referring to both number and usefulness.

Based on my personal list, I think let's just pick SMB, NorthPort, and one of Ginebra or NLEX. The others can just come from the UAAP (Carl, Quiambao, Ange), B.League (Dwight, Ravena brothers, Balti, Parks, Heading, Kobe), KBL (Navarro, Gutang, SJ, RJ), and others (Kai, Francis Lopez)

Originally posted by IPC View Post

Here's my personal list of useful Gilas players, or even those close to useful at this point:

SMB: June Mar, Marcio, Perez
TNT: Castro, Mikey (NP), maybe Erram
MAG: Abueva
BGSM: Japeth, CStan (NP), maybe Scottie, Arvin
MER: Newsome, maybe Almazan
NLEX: Oftana, maybe Alas, Trollano
CON: Ahanmisi, Bulanadi, maybe Arana
BWB: Suerte
PHX: N/A
NOR: Malonzo, Bolick
RoS: Mamuyac
TER: Javi

Just my views.

**sroth3839** · 09-09-2022, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by IPC View Post

So we'll need to judge which PBA teams have the most useful PBA players, most referring to both number and usefulness.

Based on my personal list, I think let's just pick SMB, NorthPort, and one of Ginebra or NLEX. The others can just come from the UAAP (Carl, Quiambao, Ange), B.League (Dwight, Ravena brothers, Balti, Parks, Heading, Kobe), KBL (Navarro, Gutang, SJ, RJ), and others (Kai, Francis Lopez)

Basically SMB + GSM + TNT because this is basically Chot and Tim’s team.

Fajardo
Japeth
CS (NP) —> v Jordan
Erram
Troy
Williams (NP) —> v KSA
Castro
Perez
Scottie
Pringle (NP) —> v KSA/Jordan

non-PBA:
Kai
Ange (NP)
Tamayo
Quiambao
Ramos
BRP
Kiefer
Thirdy
Dave
Geo
Baltazar

That right there is already a 21-man pool without even mentioning Navarro, Lopez, Adams, and Abando.

Beating Jordan and KSA in their home court is doable but we need preparations. Good preparations.

Sucks because I really wanted to see more of Malonzo, Newsome, and Bolick in the team.

**CoJ** · 09-09-2022, 02:54 PM

Chot to have two to three PBA teams as part of Gilas pool for Window 5

https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/chot-to-have-two-to-three-pba-teams-as-part-of-gilas-pool-for-window-5/249600

Gilas Pilipinas will once again have Philippine Basketball Association players for Window 5 of the 2023 FIBA World Cup Asian Qualifiers. Chot Reyes will be picking players from two to three PBA teams to be part of his pool for the Philippines’ road games against Jordan and Saudi Arabia from November 10 to 13. “Tutulong […]

so hugot system again on window 5, anyway benefit of the doubt

“Ang option ni Coach Chot is kumuha ng two to three teams tapos doon kukunin kung sino ang gusto niya sa pool niya.”

**Silent Killer** · 09-14-2022, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

Basically SMB + GSM + TNT because this is basically Chot and Tim’s team.

Fajardo
Japeth
CS (NP) —> v Jordan
Erram
Troy
Williams (NP) —> v KSA
Castro
Perez
Scottie
Pringle (NP) —> v KSA/Jordan

non-PBA:
Kai
Ange (NP)
Tamayo
Quiambao
Ramos
BRP
Kiefer
Thirdy
Dave
Geo
Baltazar

That right there is already a 21-man pool without even mentioning Navarro, Lopez, Adams, and Abando.

Beating Jordan and KSA in their home court is doable but we need preparations. Good preparations.

Sucks because I really wanted to see more of Malonzo, Newsome, and Bolick in the team.

Touché 3 teams from SMB, TNT and BGSM

Chot picks TNT, SMB, Ginebra for Gilas Window 5 pool

https://tbti.me/s22h1a?fbclid=IwAR0und0QUSzjeei_3VClxy6oUaGC3lkg9-0UiJDLjuydEnTDQpsu3R0_WCY

It seems like Gilas program director Chot Reyes has already picked where he will get his pool for Window 5 of the FIBA World Cup 2023 Asian Qualifiers. Based on the schedule released by the Philippine Basketball Association on Thursday, the PBA contingent for the Gilas pool will come from TNT, Ginebra, and San Miguel. […]

**JAMSKIE** · 09-14-2022, 05:08 AM

Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

Basically SMB + GSM + TNT because this is basically Chot and Tim’s team.

Fajardo
Japeth
CS (NP) —> v Jordan
Erram
Troy
Williams (NP) —> v KSA
Castro
Perez
Scottie
Pringle (NP) —> v KSA/Jordan

non-PBA:
Kai
Ange (NP)
Tamayo
Quiambao
Ramos
BRP
Kiefer
Thirdy
Dave
Geo
Baltazar

That right there is already a 21-man pool without even mentioning Navarro, Lopez, Adams, and Abando.

Beating Jordan and KSA in their home court is doable but we need preparations. Good preparations.

Sucks because I really wanted to see more of Malonzo, Newsome, and Bolick in the team.

Same here bro. I also want to see more from Malonzo & Bolick.

I think we have a good chance of beating Jordan as most likely, it won't have star player Ahmed Al Dwairi in the 5th window. Jordan is a different team without Al Dwairi.

I'm confident, we will hurdle Saudi Arabia.

**paolylo** · 09-14-2022, 06:25 AM

Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

Same here bro. I also want to see more from Malonzo & Bolick.

I think we have a good chance of beating Jordan as most likely, it won't have star player Ahmed Al Dwairi in the 5th window. Jordan is a different team without Al Dwairi.

I'm confident, we will hurdle Saudi Arabia.

I just don't want anyone who hasn't played for Gilas since Feb 2020 (the start of it all) to end up on the final roster because the November and possibly Feb 2023 windows should be just tweaks to fill-in the gaps of players who definitely won't be playing like Clarkson (NBA), Ramos (B.League unless given permission), and Sotto (NBL unless 36ers don't make their playoffs).

Of course I want to see Malonzo and Bolick... but by then we don't know if Edu, Abarrientos, Balti, Heading, Abando, or even someone like Panopio, Tamayo, Quiambao, or Philips will be better than anyone Chot ever called up even if it's his picks from TnT/SMB/Ginebra. Perez and Bolick were actually the most impressive players for Guiao and they'd been on the team much shorter than Aguilar and Blatche.

**sroth3839** · 09-14-2022, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

Touché 3 teams from SMB, TNT and BGSM

https://tbti.me/s22h1a?fbclid=IwAR0und0QUSzjeei_3VClxy6oUaGC3lkg9-0UiJDLjuydEnTDQpsu3R0_WCY

LOL Beers on me

**IPC** · 09-14-2022, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

Basically SMB + GSM + TNT because this is basically Chot and Tim’s team.

Fajardo
Japeth
CS (NP) —> v Jordan
Erram
Troy
Williams (NP) —> v KSA
Castro
Perez
Scottie
Pringle (NP) —> v KSA/Jordan

non-PBA:
Kai
Ange (NP)
Tamayo
Quiambao
Ramos
BRP
Kiefer
Thirdy
Dave
Geo
Baltazar

That right there is already a 21-man pool without even mentioning Navarro, Lopez, Adams, and Abando.

Beating Jordan and KSA in their home court is doable but we need preparations. Good preparations.

Sucks because I really wanted to see more of Malonzo, Newsome, and Bolick in the team.

Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

Touché 3 teams from SMB, TNT and BGSM

https://tbti.me/s22h1a?fbclid=IwAR0u...nTDQpsu3R0_WCY

Replace Troy with Oftana.

Relatively good choices by Chot. Ginebra and SMB have useful players, while TNT also have Castro and Oftana. I just hope Pogoy ain't in the lineup.

Sucks that the KBL guys (especially Navarro and maybe Gutang) and Francis Lopez aren't even in the discussion, but oh well. That's that.

**IPC** · 09-15-2022, 04:07 AM

Here's a PBA wishlist: https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/f...-5-pool/249951

Guards: Scottie, Perez
Wings: Oftana, Pogoy, Arvin
Bigs: Japeth, June Mar, Erram

They're set to be joined by B.League players and college guys, and the final pool will be announced once availability is concerned.

Almost everyone in the pool is good for FIBA. Arvin needs reps and defensive protection, though. And Pogoy, well...

Too bad guys like Navarro and Gutang (who are both in the KBL) aren't discussed, but oh well, still good naman.

**bluenote49** · 09-15-2022, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by IPC View Post

Here's a PBA wishlist: https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/f...-5-pool/249951

Guards: Scottie, Perez
Wings: Oftana, Pogoy, Arvin
Bigs: Japeth, June Mar, Erram

It's kinda sad that arvin is even considered, too slow, too lazy, too unathletic to play Fiba ball! Why maliksi & lassiter not part of the pool? Heck I rather have Khombutin or Trollano than Bong Hawkins 2.0.

**IPC** · 09-15-2022, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by bluenote49 View Post

It's kinda sad that arvin is even considered, too slow, too lazy, too unathletic to play Fiba ball! Why maliksi & lassiter not part of the pool? Heck I rather have Khombutin or Trollano than Bong Hawkins 2.0.

I would have preferred Navarro as a wing, to be honest. Heck, maybe recall Lopez.

**Sikatrix** · 09-15-2022, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by IPC View Post

I would have preferred Navarro as a wing, to be honest. Heck, maybe recall Lopez.

Navarro can prove himself in the KBL. Lopez, I dont know.

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