NBL thread

[Enforcer]

nice to see both sydney & adelaide giving opportunity to their bench. this is a non-bearing game for sydney since they are already in the nbl playoffs.

[mathematicianrcg]

Kai Sotto Stats Today VS Sydney ( End of 4th)

7 pts
3 rebs
1 stl
1 blk
3/6 FG
0/1 3pt FG
1/1 FT
4 Fouls
+12 plus minus
14:15 mins playing time

Sydney - 82
ADL -90

PS: Kai Limited Mins in 4th due to Foul Trouble.

PSS: Hopefully Kai Will get Credit from his good plus minus the same way he is criticized if he has a poor plis minus.

Overall, Decent for Kai. Not Good, but Definitely Not Bad.
Especially with 14 mins of play.

Need to be careful more on Foul Troubles

[Silent Killer]

No need to pay just treat all negatrons and have a feast on that day.

I will be checking if Dieng would really be sidelined next game till the end of the season as you said. Also, regarding Kai all I hope is that he declares for the draft. If not then, auto eligible would really be a hot topic here till next year.haha

^^
The game broadcast game commentary said it best, Dieng has shown enough of what he can do , and will be drafted . There is talk he may no longer play another game .. as he's accomplished what was needed. Reality is since Dieng came into the season as a lottery pick he really didn't have to show much for a team to take a chance on him, ( his stock indeed dropped with his dismal early showing and was looking like he would defer , fortunately he put together enough good games for teams to take a chance on drafting him likely in the 1st round, so it's actually mission accomplished for both Dieng , Breakers and the NBL (from a draft perspective ) obviously not for team perspective

https://nbl.com.au/news/dieng-besson-turn-attention-to-nba-draft?fbclid=IwAR1NVldMj9aaB_yZwQiw-GrINkOdywGgDguleTJcQxYHPIca8T65YGnkWHY

[DAdmiral]

Wetzell release to a Spanish league team is interesting, rumor is he will get 3 times what he is getting for the Breakers (too good to refuse). What is interesting is Walsh Breakers owner let him go (including for next season ). Note Wetzell is contracted for 3 years with the Breakers .
So question why would Walsh agree to this? I mean they didn't allow Corey Webster release . Few things to note Walsh actually played multiple years for the same team that Wetzell is moving to.
2nd Walsh actually cares for Yanni. The logic is with Wetzell likely to leave anyway eventually. It makes sense to try to get Yanni back in year 3 of his contract..(similar to the Kiefer like situation with NleX and B league)

[DAdmiral]

Ok to end all this silliness of Kai's contract I've talked to former GM 36ers Jeff Van, and Kai's not getting anything close guaranteed in its first 2 years of 7 figures.
Contact has a 3rd year baloon amount which is a team option (not guaranteed)

Oh and before people change and forget the point of contention, I've confirmed with officials Kai does not go through the declare list to enter draft. (Period) so essentially he is automatically eligible

Kai does however need to make decisions on which team and under contract he will play for next season

KAI will never enter this declare list

https://hoopshype.com/lists/these-are-the-nba-draft-early-entries-right-now/

[NOiNU]

Ok to end all this silliness of Kai's contract I've talked to former GM 36ers Jeff Van, and Kai's not getting anything close guaranteed in its first 2 years of 7 figures.
Contact has a 3rd year baloon amount which is a team option (not guaranteed)

Oh and before people change and forget the point of contention, I've confirmed with officials Kai does not go through the declare list to enter draft. (Period) so essentially he is automatically eligible

Kai does however need to make decisions on which team and under contract he will play for next season

KAI will never enter this declare list

https://hoopshype.com/lists/these-ar...ies-right-now/

Did you also clear if he has an option to go next year? Because that’s what’s matter more because that’s what the more important personalities are saying. Hence you argue to the contrary, dapat tinanong mo na rin para kumpleto anecdotal argument mo. Tutal me ilan pa namang naniniwala sayo dito. For the rest, your penchant for sophistry is but an open book.

[DAdmiral]

Yes of course he does , but it's not his decision of when and if a team will draft him, it's either in 2022 or 2023.

Of course it's his decision if he will sign with anyone

[NOiNU]

Yes of course he does , but it's not his decision of whenand if a team will.drsft him, it's either in 2022 or 2023.

Of course it's his decision if he will sign with anyone

Who are you to say it is not his decision to make? Are you a draft expert now? Why, because you’ve read the CBA? Guess what, you’re not the only one. But I give credence to what his camp is saying because it’s (CBA) but a written law. Do you think it covers everything? If something like the laws of the land or the constitution have this need for amendments and is prone to loopholes, imagine what such short portion of the CBA (draft eligibility) is lacking in as far as attention to details is concerned.

Wag tayo pabida dito. You always take the contrarian side of anything Kai is or does, even this very trivial thing. You really think Kai is trending no. 1 and his statements are not picked up by the mainstream media? Why aren’t they calling out Kai and the now dozens of basketball personalities for this “bluff”. This argument of yours (Bell’s choice of Sayson) has no merit and illogical.

[DAdmiral]

Simple terms of reference, fully eligible for a specific draft means , team is eligible to draft a player .
This is the confusion, people think it's in reference to be eligible to declare or enter. NO it's not !
Eligible to be drafted in the CBA means entered to be available to be selected.

Bottom line is one either enters draft automatically or via declaration list. If Kai does not get listed in declare list by April 24 and then eventually enters draft, then it means how he entered is via automatically being enterd . End of story.

[NOiNU]

Simple terms of reference, fully eligible for a specific draft means , team is eligible to draft a player .
This is the confusion, people think it's in reference to be eligible to declare or enter. NO it's not !
Eligible to be drafted in the CBA means entered to be available to be selected.

Bottom line is one either enters draft automatically or via declaration list. If Kai does not get listed in declare list by April 24 and then eventually enters draft, then it means how he entered is via automatically being enterd . End of story.

Pabalik-balik ka lang dyan e settled na yan. You are the one who’s confused. You think Kai’s camp doesn’t know that? You think these coaches, agents and draft analysts don’t know that? Galing mo naman, ikaw lang nakakaalam nyan.

[DAdmiral]

https://hoopshype.com/lists/these-are-the-nba-draft-early-entries-right-now/

Plain and simple if one enters the 2022 draft and is not listed in the declare list , he therefore entered by being automatically entered.

I am wrong absolutely if he is listed in declare list above. (Period

[DAdmiral]

Pabalik-balik ka lang dyan e settled na yan. You are the one who’s confused. You think Kai’s camp doesn’t know that? You think these coaches, agents and draft analysts don’t know that? Galing mo naman, ikaw lang nakakaalam nyan.

Absolutely they do, but we know if they misleading for gain.. if they are right no problem, I'm wrong (simple)

[NOiNU]

Absolutely they do, but we know if they misleading for gain.. if they are right no problem, I'm wrong (simple)

Misleading who? Are NBA teams that dumb or ignorant? Lol

[DAdmiral]

Speaking of the other side , every single prospect over the last 4 years has consistently been applied the same rules and peocess .

https://hoopshype.com/lists/these-are-the-nba-draft-early-entries-right-now/

This list alone over hundreds of players, every single one of them can be explained why they needed to declare.
Additionally every single player who is not in the declare list but is already confirmed as entered has a valid reason under the rules why they're automatically entered (not requiring draft).
I've litterarally spoken to agents , and they confirm yup Kai's camp is pulling people's leg , with vague messaging using terms such as decide to enter at end of season in a vague way.
So really if you want to listen to others , listen to what everyone else aside from Kai's camp is saying on how a player enters the draft. Kai's camp is the single exception of a different narrative.

Make no mistake about it , (Kai's camp) they know what they're doing , they are very competent. Their choice of words is really strategic smart actually. I'm not actually saying their approach is wrong for Kai's sake and benefit ..
I'm plainly saying Kai is automatically eligible and does not need to declare for 2022. There are ways of both the former (their words)and latter (Kai is automatically entered)actually being technically correct.

When you speak vaqually to be politically correct for the public consumption one does for reasons. Regardless if it may be misleading. (Maybe not legally or technically wrong though)

Cause

[NOiNU]

Speaking of the other side , every single prospect over the last 4 years has consistently been applied the same rules and peocess .

https://hoopshype.com/lists/these-are-the-nba-draft-early-entries-right-now/

This list alone over hundreds of players, every single one of them can be explained why they needed to declare.
Additionally every single player who is not in the declare list but is already confirmed as entered has a valid reason under the rules why they're automatically entered (not requiring draft).
I've litterarally spoken to agents , and they confirm yup Kai's camp is pulling people's leg , with vague messaging using terms such as decide to enter at end of season in a vague way.
So really if you want to listen to others , listen to what everyone else aside from Kai's camp is saying on how a player enters the draft. Kai's camp is the single exception of a different narrative.

Make no mistake about it , they know what they're doing , they are very competent. Their choice of words is really smart actually.

Idk Dave, why you keep coming back to something that’s settled and doesn’t really address the point in question. First and foremost, Kai does not belong on the same group. Using the early entry to support your argument isn’t very smart of you. And more importantly, that doesn’t have anything to do with Kai having an option to go next year or not.