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    Quote Originally Posted by robert0326 View Post
    I see smb will get an import that is super role player ala Blakely or freeman.. they don't need scoring import because they have Perez and Romeo to do that...
    Yeah, I hope so. A 3-and-D guy that would occasionally score 15 or more points but would do more damage in the rebounding (15 or more), steals (3), and blocks (3) department. That guy would be assigned to shutdown, or at least limit the likes of Brownlee and his other wing counterparts. Former SMB import Nate Johnson (6'5" but hyper athletic) comes to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodbi View Post
    Yeah, I hope so. A 3-and-D guy that would occasionally score 15 or more points but would do more damage in the rebounding (15 or more), steals (3), and blocks (3) department. That guy would be assigned to shutdown, or at least limit the likes of Brownlee and his other wing counterparts. Former SMB import Nate Johnson (6'5" but hyper athletic) comes to mind.
    For me that Gabe Freeman.. I remember that smb still get him even the height limit was 6'10 or above because he's damn workhorse inside and can defend multiple positions from 1 to 5 spot..

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    Personnel-wise, I think the 2 teams are just even. But if Kelly Williams can limit Ian Sangalang's inside scoring or make him a non-factor in some of the games (I see that Ian will be his assignment all series long, Abueva will probably be Khobuntin's, perhaps Troy's), then i think it's gonna be TNT in 6 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert0326 View Post
    For me that Gabe Freeman.. I remember that smb still get him even the height limit was 6'10 or above because he's damn workhorse inside and can defend multiple positions from 1 to 5 spot..
    Yeah, had 2 stints with SMB, was kind of ball-dominant (scored a lot) iirc, but at least he never stopped hustling for loose possessions. Quite a high-motor guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodbi View Post
    Personnel-wise, I think the 2 teams are just even. But if Kelly Williams can limit Ian Sangalang's inside scoring or make him a non-factor in some of the games (I see that Ian will be his assignment all series long, Abueva will probably be Khobuntin's, perhaps Troy's), then i think it's gonna be TNT in 6 games.
    The problem is after Kelly, they have erram and Troy to match up him.. even Marcelo.. coach chito should tell him to preserve all of his effort until 4th.. reavis and corpuz are not offensive threats.. I see coach chito will use abueva more at 4 spot to help sanggalang down low.. even they need the likes of Aries dionisio... I see every game will be a close one.. I think their losses could be atleast 5 or below every game... No lopsided victories just like smb vs tnt series...

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert0326 View Post
    The problem is after Kelly, they have erram and Troy to match up him.. even Marcelo.. coach chito should tell him to preserve all of his effort until 4th.. reavis and corpuz are not offensive threats.. I see coach chito will use abueva more at 4 spot to help sanggalang down low.. even they need the likes of Aries dionisio... I see every game will be a close one.. I think their losses could be atleast 5 or below every game... No lopsided victories just like smb vs tnt series...
    Yeah, it would be a must-see series. I also see that it would be tightly-contested, especially on the defensive end. Abueva better come up with an above-average, all-around performance every game, paired with Corpuz's and Dionisio's usual under-the-radar but effective performances to negate TNT's offensive bigs and increase Magnolia's chances.

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    I see TnT winning this series. Magnolia not having a legit stretch big (aside from Dela Rosa) would be exposed in this series. TnT knows how to pack the paint having been pitted against Junemar and Mo 7games long. The one thing TnT should work on is their defensive rebounding. These Magnolia guys are scrappy and relentless. If TnT wins the battle of the boards, Magnolia has a problem.

    One thing going about TnT is that the players seem to be all in and are on the same page. They were so methodical last game 7, but what stood out more was that they were working for every possession and fighting for every loose ball. Coach Chot really is a good motivator. They would definitely need added motivation facing the likes of naturally high motor players like Abueva, Jalalon, Corpuz, Dela Rosa, Sangalang and Barroca. I really expect to see a lot of scrambling for the ball and bodies piling up in this Finals matchup.
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    In the end its the Ginebra duo who is more prolific than Junmar/Mo combo (yeah I consider theJunmar slow start) the difference is smb has romeo cj ross lassiter cabaggie and bagyo Ginebra has tenoriopringle and thompson thats really a big gap in man power knowing how inconsistent aljon and Caperal is..
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOiNU View Post
    I see TnT winning this series. Magnolia not having a legit stretch big (aside from Dela Rosa) would be exposed in this series. TnT knows how to pack the paint having been pitted against Junemar and Mo 7games long. The one thing TnT should work on is their defensive rebounding. These Magnolia guys are scrappy and relentless. If TnT wins the battle of the boards, Magnolia has a problem.

    One thing going about TnT is that the players seem to be all in and are on the same page. They were so methodical last game 7, but what stood out more was that they were working for every possession and fighting for every loose ball. Coach Chot really is a good motivator. They would definitely need added motivation facing the likes of naturally high motor players like Abueva, Jalalon, Corpuz, Dela Rosa, Sangalang and Barroca. I really expect to see a lot of scrambling for the ball and bodies piling up in this Finals matchup.
    That's a pretty good observation. Lee is probably their best and only qualified shooter (unless I'm forgetting someone)They really should have get on with the times and added modern BB type players. Rome was a natural wingman in college now he's playing both forward spots and to be honest still not convinced he can sustain that kind of shooting.. all those guys you mention aren't exactly great at stretching the floor. Heck we used to joke the game is over whenever Abueva decides start hoisting up 3s.

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    I am more interested in the coaching matchup of Coach Chot and Coach Chito. Since, the teams are more or less equal talent wise.

    And if the talent level of players is the same, the coaching and system will be more of a factor.

    Obviously Coach Chot is more successful in pba, and have more accolades. But Coach Chito in his short pba coaching career already gave magnolia 1 title, and some runner up or semifinal finishes.

    BUT imo, Chot rn have the upper hand. more Finals experience coaching wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOiNU View Post
    I see TnT winning this series. Magnolia not having a legit stretch big (aside from Dela Rosa) would be exposed in this series. TnT knows how to pack the paint having been pitted against Junemar and Mo 7games long. The one thing TnT should work on is their defensive rebounding. These Magnolia guys are scrappy and relentless. If TnT wins the battle of the boards, Magnolia has a problem.

    One thing going about TnT is that the players seem to be all in and are on the same page. They were so methodical last game 7, but what stood out more was that they were working for every possession and fighting for every loose ball. Coach Chot really is a good motivator. They would definitely need added motivation facing the likes of naturally high motor players like Abueva, Jalalon, Corpuz, Dela Rosa, Sangalang and Barroca. I really expect to see a lot of scrambling for the ball and bodies piling up in this Finals matchup.
    Another interesting point is how will they attack Magnolia's frontline. Abueva, Corpuz, and Dionisio can guard the perimeter and the post.

    However, Sangalang's PnR defense is not that good, and I dunno if Reavis can step out. If I were TNT, I'd hunt these guys on PnR.

    Sa TNT naman, they'd have a problem at the 3, since Chot almost always uses a 3-guard combination. Abueva will take full advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatweirdguy View Post
    That's a pretty good observation. Lee is probably their best and only qualified shooter (unless I'm forgetting someone)They really should have get on with the times and added modern BB type players. Rome was a natural wingman in college now he's playing both forward spots and to be honest still not convinced he can sustain that kind of shooting.. all those guys you mention aren't exactly great at stretching the floor. Heck we used to joke the game is over whenever Abueva decides start hoisting up 3s.
    As for modern basketball, I think Mags have that covered when it comes to defense. An aspect of modern basketball in my view is being positionless on that end. And, Mags have four positionless defenders in Abueva, Rome, Corpuz, and Dionisio. They can switch and guard the 2, 3, and 4 positions in the PBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IPC View Post
    Another interesting point is how will they attack Magnolia's frontline. Abueva, Corpuz, and Dionisio can guard the perimeter and the post.

    However, Sangalang's PnR defense is not that good, and I dunno if Reavis can step out. If I were TNT, I'd hunt these guys on PnR.

    Sa TNT naman, they'd have a problem at the 3, since Chot almost always uses a 3-guard combination. Abueva will take full advantage.
    The problems of Magnolia are:

    - are they willing to give up points to TNT from the perimeter? or
    - are they willing to give up points through penetration?

    Those questions actually killed SMB's chances to make 6 feat in the AFC.

    On offense, it is still Chot's trademark.

    On defense, Chot is actually is taking a page from Tab's defensive philosophy - they are trying to win per possession.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPC View Post
    Man, if TNT wins this All-Filipino, their 3-big rotation might be noticed. Kelly (6'6"), Troy (6'7"), and Erram (6'8") could play both big positions (Erram played 4 when next to Kelly). None of them are post-players, but they bring something to the table. Kelly is a versatile defender, strong enough to guard the post, and agile enough to switch to the perimeter. Troy can is athletic and an energetic rebounder. Erram can protect the rim and defend both big positions. All of them can shoot the ball (Kelly only to an extent) and score close to the basket.

    I hope most, if not all, 6'7"-6'8" bigs will have the ability to play both big positions, so they won't be much of a liability playing either spot. Having a post repertoire like Sangalang and Mo is a bonus.
    Quote Originally Posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    ^ ^ ^ ^
    I'm really curious at how Sangalang would fare against the defense of Kelly Williams & Erram. I agree with you, K. Will exhibits versatility in the defense end. He can defend post-up players as well as perimeter players.
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    And to think that's post his prime and almost retired Kelly na. Prime Kelly was like a decade ago pa before JF came into the league..

    I think it's Abueva who's gonna give them a bigger problem. Who are they gonna put on him? He's too strong and athletic for Pogoy and too quick for the bigger guys. They really should have kept one of Semerad or Trollano..
    Quote Originally Posted by robert0326 View Post
    Ryan Reyes or khobuntin will be the primary defender for abueva... And I think coach chot knows how to limit the production of abueva.. Naging player din nya to sa gilas from 2017-2018, so he knows his strength and weaknesses...
    I'll move these points here.

    I think Abueva can only be contained, which is easier said than done. Boxing him out from loose balls is a tall enough order. And as previously said, he's a walking mismatch and kind of a positionless player, even at 6'2" (which is good enough for the PBA).

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    Quote Originally Posted by IPC View Post
    I'll move these points here.

    I think Abueva can only be contained, which is easier said than done. Boxing him out from loose balls is a tall enough order. And as previously said, he's a walking mismatch and kind of a positionless player, even at 6'2" (which is good enough for the PBA).
    Its really hard to scout & contain a player who plays some sort of "headless-chicken" style of basketball. I think one of the reasons why Abueva did very well with Gilas in the 2015 FIBA Asia Championship was that the opposition didn't really scout him that well. He was overlooked by the opposition as they were so focused on Blatche, Castro, Romeo & perhaps RDO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPC View Post
    Another interesting point is how will they attack Magnolia's frontline. Abueva, Corpuz, and Dionisio can guard the perimeter and the post.

    However, Sangalang's PnR defense is not that good, and I dunno if Reavis can step out. If I were TNT, I'd hunt these guys on PnR.

    Sa TNT naman, they'd have a problem at the 3, since Chot almost always uses a 3-guard combination. Abueva will take full advantage.
    Yeah. Sangalang PNR is not that good. He can make up to it if he can punish tnt in the post on Offense. I think Ian's post game is underrated.

    Abueva is the biggest weapon by Magnolia against TNT.
    Tnt putting a PG at 3 spot is a disaster for them. Bruh, I rather have Kelly guard Abueva.
    Abueva against (Castro,Williams, or any other guards) is a field day for the beast

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    I just thought magnolia or chito is surrounded by great assistant coaches who happens to be not wanting anything handling any hc duties in the near future namely Johnny A and Jason Webb, heck Juno Sauler was a uaap champion coach.. So the much tamed Yeng is really the perfect description for Victolero..
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPC View Post
    I'll move these points here.

    I think Abueva can only be contained, which is easier said than done. Boxing him out from loose balls is a tall enough order. And as previously said, he's a walking mismatch and kind of a positionless player, even at 6'2" (which is good enough for the PBA).
    They faced Abueva last season when he was in Phoenix in their semis clash.. maybe they have already that mentality they can do it again.. But remember, TNT has Ray Parks to do single coverage against Abueva last year.. And Abueva has better teammates now in Magnolia than last year in Phoenix.. This will be an exciting match up.. Abueva will also revenge for his last year's lost to TNT..

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    Quote Originally Posted by IPC View Post
    I'll move these points here.

    I think Abueva can only be contained, which is easier said than done. Boxing him out from loose balls is a tall enough order. And as previously said, he's a walking mismatch and kind of a positionless player, even at 6'2" (which is good enough for the PBA).
    The only one who can really contain Abueva is Abueva himself. If he plays under control and focused it would be a hard fought series TNT as they have no one who can guard him. If tinoyo si Calvin this would be an easy series for TNT.

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    https://www.spin.ph/life/guide/pba-s...ef=home_feed_1

    “We have perfomed very well not only on TV but on Facebook. We are actually breaking records on Facebook,” said PBA chairman Ricky Vargas.

    “So halos lahat, pinapanood na ng mga tao. Buhay ang PBA,” Marcial said.

    Does anyone have an idea if those numbers are true? I didn't even bother watching the pba so I don't know how many games are shown on tv5 and one. But 39 million views on 1.5m average is around 26 games only when they should have over 60+ games in the elimination round alone if my math is correct. If anyone can enlighten me it will be a nice help lol.

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