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    Except for Africa I think they just determined the qualifiers through FIBA rankings.

    Group A
    Senegal
    Canada
    Lithuania
    Japan

    Group B
    Puerto Rico
    Iran
    Serbia
    Latvia

    Group C
    Argentina
    France
    Korea
    Spain

    Group D
    Turkey
    Mali
    Australia
    United States
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    USA tryout roster:

    The 27 athletes expected to attend the U19 training camp are: Devin Askew (Texas/Sacramento, Calif.); Patrick Baldwin Jr. (Hamilton H.S./Sussex, Wis.); Kendall Brown (Sunrise Christian Academy /Cottage Grove, Minn.); Kennedy Chandler (Sunrise Christian Academy/Memphis, Tenn.); Jonathan Davis (Wisconsin/La Crosse, Wis.); Derek Fountain (Mississippi State/Holly Springs, Miss.); Caleb Furst (Blackhawk Christian School/Fort Wayne, Ind.); Jordan Hall (Texas A&M/Wildwood, N.J.); Chet Holmgren (Minnehaha Academy/Minneapolis, Minn.); Harrison Ingram (St. Mark’s School/Dallas, Texas); Jaden Ivey (Purdue /South Bend, Ind.); Dishon Jackson (Washington State/Vallejo, Calif.); Meechie Johnson (Ohio State/Cleveland, Ohio); Ryan Kalkbrenner (Creighton/St. Louis, Mo.); Trey Kaufman-Renn (Silver Creek H.S. /Sellersburg, Ind.); Zed Key (Ohio State/Bay Shore, N.Y.); Kenneth Lofton Jr. (Louisiana Tech/Port Arthur, Texas); Langston Love (Montverde Academy/Cibolo, Texas); Mike Miles (TCU/Lancaster, Texas); Adam Miller (Louisiana State/Chicago, Ill.); Trey Patterson (Villanova /Somerset, N.J.); Hunter Sallis (Millard North H.S./Omaha, Neb.); Deivon Smith (Georgia Tech/Loganville, Ga.); Dalen Terry (Arizona/Tempe, Ariz.); Jabari Walker (Colorado/Inglewood, Calif.); Peyton Watson (Long Beach Poly Tech H.S./Long Beach, Calif.); and Jaylin Williams (Arkansas/Fort Smith, Ark.).
    https://www.usab.com/news-events/new...up-roster.aspx
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    Here's Lithuania's preliminary U19 roster:

    Dominykas Stenionis - Kauno KA „Žalgiris"
    Jokūbas Rubinas - Vilniaus KM
    Hubertas Pivorius - Sostinės KM
    Kasparas Jonauskas - Kretingos SM
    Mantas Rubštavičius - Panevėžio SC
    Justas Maceikis - Klaipėdos „Neptūnas-Akvaservis“
    Augustas Marčiulionis - Vilniaus „Rytas"
    Liutauras Lelevičius - Kauno KA „Žalgiris"
    Edgaras Preibys - Mažeikų SM
    Tautvilas Tubelis - Arizona Wildcats
    Gabrielius Mažeika - Klaipėdos V. Knašiaus KM
    Kornelijus Zikas - Klaipėdos V. Knašiaus KM
    Paulius Murauskas - Kauno „Žalgiris"
    Ąžuolas Tubelis - Arizona Wildcats
    Motiejus Krivas - Kauno „Žalgiris-3“
    Titas Sargiūnas - Kauno KA „Žalgiris"
    Rokas Jocius - Kauno KA „Žalgiris"
    Radvilas Kneižys - Klaipėdos V. Knašiaus KM



    Training camp will start on June 21st.


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    Serbia U19 lost 82:87 (29:15, 19:23, 16:24, 18:25) to Al Kuwait SC in its first friendly game.

    Serbia U19: Kovačević, Manojlović 4, Mušikić 2, Todorović 14, Petrović 7 (5 ast), Aksentijević 2, Bošković 7, Stefanović 13 (5 ast, 8 reb), Škobalj 12, Đurišić 14, Medarević, Jović 2, Joksimović 1, Belić 2, Andrić 2.

    Elmedin Kikanović and AJ Slaugther led the Kuwaiti club with respectively 26 pts and 8 reb, and 27 pts and 5 ast.

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    On June 7th Canada Basketball announced the appointment of Paul Weir as head coach. Weir had previously been the head coach of the University of New Mexico Lobos.

    But not a word since then regarding the composition of the team on the Canada Basketball website.

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    The U19 team of Turkey lost a training game against U19 Serbia 73:69. Adem Bona arrived yesterday in Turkey and played his first game. The starting five did a good job but the bench is very weak built of many 2004 guys. Many of our 2002 guys like Furkan Haltali, Alperen Sengün etc. are with the A national team. Its not a bad result. I am sure that Furkan Haltali will be added to this team eventually.

    I dont care the results. I want to see many of our 2003 and 2004 guys on the floor. Will be a solid experience for them.

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    Getting some news from the Canadian team - nothing official but one of the youth scouts in Canada (Wes Brown) has reported a camp of.

    S. Alamutu
    T. Biel
    D. Deaveiro
    E. Mahi
    Z. Edey
    R. Nembhard
    Z. Cross
    E. Fisher
    C. Bediako
    C. Houstan
    D. Parolin
    B. Mathurin
    J. Monegro
    K. Duke
    W. Exacte
    N. Owusu-Anane
    J. Brown-Ferguson
    M. Lestin
    E. Boag
    L. Hunger
    M. Olivier-Prosper



    So Shaedon Sharpe (declined) and Josh Primo (NBA draft process) would be the primary missing pieces, but this is a very excellent group if true.

    Top 6-7 something like:

    PG: Nembhard
    Wing: Benn Mathurin (NBA 1st round prospect)
    Wing: Elijah Fisher (NBA 1st round prospect - younger though)
    Wing: Caleb Houstan (NBA 1st round prospect)
    Big: Charles Bediako (possible NBA prospect)

    Big (Very): Edey
    Wing: Olivier-Prosper

    Might be the best team Canada has floored pure depth of talent-wise. Hopefully it comes together....

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    I hate such players Z. Edey, but he may be a pain in the ass. Can such players still be stars? I wish small ball would eliminate any chances for such guys, it's just unwatchable to me (no intend to insult anything but literal giants are very aesthetically unpleasant..nothing personal Edey if you read).

    A lot of athleticism and mobility by Canada, and likely immense defensive versatility. Any deadly shooters?

    We will start the tournament against Canada. Quite an opener, I hope it won't be a sweep and we'll give you a proper run, maybe even fighting for a win if our shots will be falling. Loosing 4 stars prospect Murauskas hurts us, but for our standards very talented NT. We may lack a little bit of toughness, athleticism and size in the second unit though.
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    Zach Edey - I hear you. 7'4 285 already. He is big, strong and really nice hands for his size. But I really don't think he is a legit NBA prospect - I just don't think he'll ever be quick enough for the NBA and at best would be a Boban-light type player. Tell me....is there a role for a player like this in Europe in today's game (Tavares?). I hope the kid has a meaningful chance to be a good professional player. He will be very interesting in the U19 - quite a useful tool, but it will be in limited minutes I think.

    Deadly shooters??? Why yes...yes there is. Caleb Hosuton might be the best shooting prospect in the NCAA (freshman in the fall at Michigan - projected lottery pick). His shot is as pure as they come and he is developing very well as an all around player. Benedict Mathurin is also showing to be an elite shooting prospect. 42% from three with Arizona in his freshman season.
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    It looks like a very balanced team, with all sorts of tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    I hate such players Z. Edey, but he may be a pain in the ass. Can such players still be stars? I wish small ball would eliminate any chances for such guys, it's just unwatchable to me (no intend to insult anything but literal giants are very aesthetically unpleasant....


    Well now we know why you're always disparaging "lumberjacks". You're speaking for only yourself though.

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    Two friendlies:

    June 13

    Lithuania 76 Latvia 64

    June 15

    Lithuania 79 Latvia 67

    Augustas Marčiulionis saw action and scored 10 points for Lithuania. Seventeen year old Freds Bagatskis scored 24 for Latvia.


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    Seventeen finalists for US team:

    Named as finalists were: Patrick Baldwin Jr. (Hamilton H.S./Sussex, Wis.); Kendall Brown (Sunrise Christian Academy /Cottage Grove, Minn.); Kennedy Chandler (Sunrise Christian Academy/Memphis, Tenn.); Jonathan Davis (Wisconsin/La Crosse, Wis.); Caleb Furst (Blackhawk Christian School/Fort Wayne, Ind.); Jordan Hall (Texas A&M/Wildwood, N.J.); Chet Holmgren (Minnehaha Academy/Minneapolis, Minn.); Harrison Ingram (St. Mark’s School/Dallas, Texas); Jaden Ivey (Purdue /South Bend, Ind.); Ryan Kalkbrenner (Creighton/St. Louis, Mo.); Kenneth Lofton Jr. (Louisiana Tech/Port Arthur, Texas); Mike Miles (TCU/Lancaster, Texas); Adam Miller (Louisiana State/Chicago, Ill.); Trey Patterson (Villanova /Somerset, N.J.); .); Deivon Smith (Georgia Tech/Loganville, Ga.); Jabari Walker (Colorado/Inglewood, Calif.) and Peyton Watson (Long Beach Poly Tech H.S./Long Beach, Calif).
    https://www.usab.com/news-events/new...finalists.aspx
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    Would the Lithuanians in this tournament be speaking to their hosts in English, Russian or some neighborly Baltic hybrid? What language was the yelling Linas Klieza and Kaspers Kambala (sp.)* did at one another back in the day?

    *Unable to spellcheck at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo13 View Post
    Getting some news from the Canadian team - nothing official but one of the youth scouts in Canada (Wes Brown) has reported a camp of.

    S. Alamutu
    T. Biel
    D. Deaveiro
    E. Mahi
    Z. Edey
    R. Nembhard
    Z. Cross
    E. Fisher
    C. Bediako
    C. Houstan
    D. Parolin
    B. Mathurin
    J. Monegro
    K. Duke
    W. Exacte
    N. Owusu-Anane
    J. Brown-Ferguson
    M. Lestin
    E. Boag
    L. Hunger
    M. Olivier-Prosper



    So Shaedon Sharpe (declined) and Josh Primo (NBA draft process) would be the primary missing pieces, but this is a very excellent group if true.

    Top 6-7 something like:

    PG: Nembhard
    Wing: Benn Mathurin (NBA 1st round prospect)
    Wing: Elijah Fisher (NBA 1st round prospect - younger though)
    Wing: Caleb Houstan (NBA 1st round prospect)
    Big: Charles Bediako (possible NBA prospect)

    Big (Very): Edey
    Wing: Olivier-Prosper

    Might be the best team Canada has floored pure depth of talent-wise. Hopefully it comes together....
    Unofficial leak of the roster says:


    Enoch Kalambay
    Zach Edey
    Ryan Nembhard
    Elijah Fisher
    Charles Bediako
    Caleb Houstan
    Bennedict Mathurin
    Kyle Duke
    Olivier Maxence Prosper
    Khalfani Hill
    Javonte Brown-Ferguson
    Nana Owusu-Anane
    Dominic Parolin

    Some rumours that Edey or Mathurin could still move up to the Men’s team. With the size of Bediako and Brown-Ferguson already on the Junior roster, highly possible the Men’s team takes Zach Edey (7'4, 285) who is the closest of the bigs to being ready for the Men’s game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo13 View Post
    Unofficial leak of the roster says:


    Enoch Kalambay
    Zach Edey
    Ryan Nembhard
    Elijah Fisher
    Charles Bediako
    Caleb Houstan
    Bennedict Mathurin
    Kyle Duke
    Olivier Maxence Prosper
    Khalfani Hill
    Javonte Brown-Ferguson
    Nana Owusu-Anane
    Dominic Parolin

    Some rumours that Edey or Mathurin could still move up to the Men’s team. With the size of Bediako and Brown-Ferguson already on the Junior roster, highly possible the Men’s team takes Zach Edey (7'4, 285) who is the closest of the bigs to being ready for the Men’s game.
    Went through the roster to have an impression about each player. Extremely athletic team. Realistically Lithuania doesn't have as much material to match that, even if it's really talented roster for our standards. In last 5 U19 WC tournaments Lithuania reached semis 3 times. Canada did it once, but this time you surely have a serious bunch of guys. On other hand, Lithuania really can field a good defensive starting line-up and to hold away Canadians from dominating the glass and climbing all over, but our second unit is much softer and smaller, specially the guards. However, if Mathurin is ATM arguably the most ready and best player of Canada, Azualas Tubelis fairs quite well competing for the best player's status per 2 teams. Lithuania should go against USA and Australia this week as exhibition. This will show better where Lithuania stands athleticism and size wise and if we will be able to challenge this stacked Canadian NT in the opening.

    PS: It's interesting that Serbia stands only 7th in FIBA youth rankings. Canada now second and from now on it's probably impossible to move them below.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckDiesel2 View Post
    Would the Lithuanians in this tournament be speaking to their hosts in English, Russian or some neighborly Baltic hybrid? What language was the yelling Linas Klieza and Kaspers Kambala (sp.)* did at one another back in the day?
    Well if they really wanted the subtle nuances of their messages to each other to be fully grasped, you'd think they'd resort to English which has now become the lingua franca of international basketball. But since their messages would probably be perfectly clear to each other in whatever language, I think they'd quickly default back to their own.

    It reminds me of one of the most amusing post-game interviews I ever viewed. Jonas Valančiūnas was being interviewed in Lithuanian following a "friendly" against Russia in 2014(?). The interviewer said "It looked to me like you and the big Russian center were doing a lot of talking. Is that so?"

    Jonas: "Yes, we were doing some talking."

    Interviewer: "Well then what language were you using?"

    Jonas: "He was speaking Russian and I was speaking mainly English."

    Interviewer: "But you understood each other?"

    Jonas (smiling): "Yes, we understood each other."


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckDiesel2 View Post
    Would the Lithuanians in this tournament be speaking to their hosts in English, Russian or some neighborly Baltic hybrid? What language was the yelling Linas Klieza and Kaspers Kambala (sp.)* did at one another back in the day?

    *Unable to spellcheck at this time.
    If it's friendly chat - English. If not so friendly - English swearing. If situation out of control - Russian swearing. There's no chance for common Lithuanian to understand common Latvian and vice versa. Even though for Lithuanians Latvian language sounds like "redneck" Lithuanian, but we still understand from little to none IDK how Lithuanian language sounds to Latvians.
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    Final US roster:

    Named to the USA U19 World Cup Team were: Patrick Baldwin Jr. (Hamilton H.S./Sussex, Wis.); Kennedy Chandler (Sunrise Christian Academy, Kan./Memphis, Tenn.); Jonathan Davis (Wisconsin/La Crosse, Wis.); Caleb Furst (Blackhawk Christian School/Fort Wayne, Ind.); Chet Holmgren (Minnehaha Academy/Minneapolis, Minn.); Harrison Ingram (St. Mark’s School/Dallas, Texas); Jaden Ivey (Purdue/South Bend, Ind.); Ryan Kalkbrenner (Creighton/St. Louis, Mo.); Kenneth Lofton Jr. (Louisiana Tech/Port Arthur, Texas); Mike Miles (TCU/Lancaster, Texas); Adam Miller (Louisiana State/Chicago, Ill.); and Peyton Watson (Long Beach Poly Tech H.S./Long Beach, Calif).
    https://www.usab.com/news-events/new...ouncement.aspx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    If it's friendly chat - English. If not so friendly - English swearing. If situation out of control - Russian swearing. There's no chance for common Lithuanian to understand common Latvian and vice versa. Even though for Lithuanians Latvian language sounds like "redneck" Lithuanian, but we still understand from little to none IDK how Lithuanian language sounds to Latvians.
    Haha very interesting, thanks. Always been curious what mutually/semi/barely intelligible languages sound like to one another.

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    Close game between Lithuania and Australia. Bloomers took it 81:78. Tubelis dropped 18pts, Marciulionis 12pts, 6as. I think both potential contenders. On Wednesday USA vs Lithuania, but seems it won't be broadcasted.
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