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  • Originally posted by Bonifacio View Post
    Interesting that Im rooting for Ateneo to do well at the World University Basketball Series.....but Im inis na inis with Gilas and I hope they lose in any of their competitions.

    For me, Ateneo now is the real National team
    The team with 3/5 of its starters as ineligibles? Good luck with that.

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    • Originally posted by Bonifacio View Post
      Interesting that Im rooting for Ateneo to do well at the World University Basketball Series.....but Im inis na inis with Gilas and I hope they lose in any of their competitions.

      For me, Ateneo now is the real National team
      Hahaha lol same with gilas (getting annoyed with the bs/drama as per coj)but i’m not hoping for the team to lose. Im hoping that sbp would ask chot to resign. He’s villain in the ph basketball right now and sbp is not doing anything lol
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      • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
        The team with 3/5 of its starters as ineligibles? Good luck with that.
        You mean this?

        Kouame, Ballungay, Koon - ineligible
        Padrigao, Andrade - eligible

        Dave might start over Koon though. So 2 of 5? But I get what you mean. They have been recruiting a lot of Filfors, including ineligibles, as of late. I don't know why the flock of homegrowns has become a trickle.

        Maybe because they have the hardest academic requirement in the UAAP? They had one of the most bountiful flock of homegrown rookies years before with Perez, Tolentino and others. But all of them dropped out after being red shirted because of academic requirements. I haven't heard of superstars in the other UAAP schools being redshirted because of acads. Ateneo should reconsider the rigidity of their academic standards. I mean the effect is they are reducing the chances of homegrowns receiving "Ateneo" education in academics and basketball. For good basketball players I think it is more important they get into Tab's basketball program than the so-called "Ateneo" academic program. IMO CJ Perez and Arvin would have been much better earlier if they stayed under Tab. Perez would have been a PG coming in to the PBA rather than like 4 years later. Tolentino would have been a decent defender.

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        • Originally posted by Rds View Post
          Ateneo should reconsider the rigidity of their academic standards. I mean the effect is they are reducing the chances of homegrowns receiving "Ateneo" education in academics and basketball. For good basketball players I think it is more important they get into Tab's basketball program than the so-called "Ateneo" academic program. IMO CJ Perez and Arvin would have been much better earlier if they stayed under Tab. Perez would have been a PG coming in to the PBA rather than like 4 years later. Tolentino would have been a decent defender.
          The thing is , the Ateneo is an academic institution that prides itself in it’s basketball program, rather than a basketball program that prides itself in its academics. Honestly, malabo yan mangyari.

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          • I think that's just Tab. Ryan Buenafe is an infamous student for one.

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            • Originally posted by mapuakid View Post
              Hahaha lol same with gilas (getting annoyed with the bs/drama as per coj)but i’m not hoping for the team to lose. Im hoping that sbp would ask chot to resign. He’s villain in the ph basketball right now and sbp is not doing anything lol
              SBP are complicit, that's why they ain't doing anything. They need Chot for PBA support.

              That's what I think, anyway.

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              • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                You mean this?

                Kouame, Ballungay, Koon - ineligible
                Padrigao, Andrade - eligible

                Dave might start over Koon though. So 2 of 5? But I get what you mean. They have been recruiting a lot of Filfors, including ineligibles, as of late. I don't know why the flock of homegrowns has become a trickle.

                Maybe because they have the hardest academic requirement in the UAAP? They had one of the most bountiful flock of homegrown rookies years before with Perez, Tolentino and others. But all of them dropped out after being red shirted because of academic requirements. I haven't heard of superstars in the other UAAP schools being redshirted because of acads. Ateneo should reconsider the rigidity of their academic standards. I mean the effect is they are reducing the chances of homegrowns receiving "Ateneo" education in academics and basketball. For good basketball players I think it is more important they get into Tab's basketball program than the so-called "Ateneo" academic program. IMO CJ Perez and Arvin would have been much better earlier if they stayed under Tab. Perez would have been a PG coming in to the PBA rather than like 4 years later. Tolentino would have been a decent defender.
                Ballungay, Mike Philipps and Koon should be up for exemption after 3-4 years for sure

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                • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
                  Ballungay, Mike Philipps and Koon should be up for exemption after 3-4 years for sure
                  But we don't know what direction SBP will be heading in at that time..

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                  • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
                    Ballungay, Mike Philipps and Koon should be up for exemption after 3-4 years for sure
                    What's your basis for that? Slaughter had a passport and stayed here when he was about 17. Fiba only gave his exemption when he was 30. Same for Newsome.

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                    • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
                      Ballungay, Mike Philipps and Koon should be up for exemption after 3-4 years for sure
                      Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
                      But we don't know what direction SBP will be heading in at that time..
                      Originally posted by Rds View Post
                      What's your basis for that? Slaughter had a passport and stayed here when he was about 17. Fiba only gave his exemption when he was 30. Same for Newsome.
                      IMHO, and let’s say if SBP is interested, they should’ve lodged the application as early as possible (the younger the better?) as it could depend on the granting of exemption (my opinion). Main documents like passport “could” be “to follow” as the FIBA is not immigration department. These players can apply passport and wait for the issuance.
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                      • Originally posted by mapuakid View Post
                        IMHO, and let’s say if SBP is interested, they should’ve lodged the application as early as possible (the younger the better?) as it could depend on the granting of exemption (my opinion). Main documents like passport “could” be “to follow” as the FIBA is not immigration department. These players can apply passport and wait for the issuance.
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                        • I think its safe to say that CJ Perez is the best 2-guard in the PBA right now. His performance with Gilas in the 2019 FIBA World Cup was pretty decent. I think a 6-foot-4 CJ Perez would be a monster in Asian level basketball.

                          Guys, how did Perez shoot 3's during his college career?
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                          • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                            I think its safe to say that CJ Perez is the best 2-guard in the PBA right now. His performance with Gilas in the 2019 FIBA World Cup was pretty decent. I think a 6-foot-4 CJ Perez would be a monster in Asian level basketball.

                            Guys, how did Perez shoot 3's during his college career?
                            Best 2 guard?? Tough, the comp. between 2 guards in the PBA is pretty close. Guys like Newsome, Wright, Lassiter are up there with him too

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                            • Originally posted by KoolAid View Post
                              Best 2 guard?? Tough, the comp. between 2 guards in the PBA is pretty close. Guys like Newsome, Wright, Lassiter are up there with him too
                              Lassiter is already getting old. He is more of a supporting cast. And he plays SF more for SMB. Wright is good. Not as explosive but a much better shooter. I would put Newsome slightly ahead of him. Newsome seems to have better length. But Perez is a bit younger. Perez is becoming a combo guard now. Ironically he was being groomed as a PG in Ateneo if IRC. How much better would Perez be if Ateneo did not red shirt him because of acads, letting him stay in the program.

                              Ateneo was not like this before. I dont think Tab has a say on acads. A baseless theory of mine is it might be from some of the alumni say the Nieto father. Take note Thirdy was the first player to be red shirted because of acads. Wasnt Mike Nieto a beneficiary because he had more PT without Thirdy?

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                              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                                I think its safe to say that CJ Perez is the best 2-guard in the PBA right now. His performance with Gilas in the 2019 FIBA World Cup was pretty decent. I think a 6-foot-4 CJ Perez would be a monster in Asian level basketball.

                                Guys, how did Perez shoot 3's during his college career?
                                Put is this way. It is advantageous to his opponents if he takes 3s instead of driving to the rim.

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