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No Russia, Belarus and Serbia among exhibition games opponents this summer. According to Balciunas all NT season is planned already, but he didn't expose it yet.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Ulanovas injury in kinda seriuos atleast 3 weeks off and thats big blow for very vulnerable zalgiris 2022 .
He will try to rush back soon because its playoofs and zalgiris needs him now as never before for lkl battles. He gonna ale hurt more rushing back and Motiejunas will give some remark in some site he is hurt his body need rest bla bla.
For any other real nt patriot ale Kalnietis,Maciulis,Javtokas,Valanciunas such type injury and 3,5 months before eurobasket woudlnt be problem .But Ulanovas dont wanna spent summers in NT and he got an excuse now.
Our NT cant count Ulanovas off from 2022 eurobasket.Last edited by Shawshank; 05-05-2022, 03:50 PM.
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Is that a loss? Ulanovas posting up in the NT? It's not like he's one of keys for us. Ulanovas out - Butkevicius or Sedekerskis in. No big deal.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Ulanovas still is better overall player than Butkevicius and Sedekerskis.
I dont like his mindset,but i see his possible value to our NT.Especially in big games.
I still believe Ulanovas is best lithuanian player in entire lkl.
In pressure NT games i trust Ulanovas and Butkevicius more than Kuzminskas/Sedekerskis/Giedraitis soft character players from all those SF.Last edited by Shawshank; 05-05-2022, 07:02 PM.
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Originally posted by Dreamcatcher View PostWhat makes you think he's better than Lekavicius especially when latter has been so much better player this season? Nevertheless, i also think he would be a loss.
Lekavicius objectively with that intensity he can play only for 22-23min and on defence he is weak link of team.
When sum up everything i say overall Ulanovas beats Lekavicius in the final for the best lithuanian in 2022 lkl.
Its not a fluke that Ulanovas salary is bigger that Lukas playing for same team.Last edited by Shawshank; 05-06-2022, 10:00 PM.
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Personally, I don't understand how anyone with a bit of self esteem can reply to a poster who claims that Ukrainians commit genocide in their own country and is clearly pro Putin.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Originally posted by Dreamcatcher View PostWhat makes you think he's better than Lekavicius especially when latter has been so much better player this season?
Okay offensively Lekavičius may have just a slight edge. But defensively there's no comparison. Ulanovas is a very decent defender while Lekavičius must always struggle to overcome his size disadvantage.Player - League Games MPG Points Assists EFF Ulanovas - LKL 28 24:42 11.1 2.6 15.7 Lekavičius - LKL 26 20:39 10.8 4.6 13.7 Ulanovas - KMT 4 26:00 12.3 2.5 17.0 Lekavičius - KMT 4 20:30 9.0 3.8 13.0 Ulanovas - EL 32 27:01 8.1 2.0 11.2 Lekavičius - EL 32 23:22 10.2 4.2 10.9
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Originally posted by Shawshank View PostI still believe Ulanovas is best lithuanian player in entire lkl.
BTW, from what I see this season I take D. Giedraitis as my second best guard. The way he's working on Miller in the series. He's best 2 ways SG in the league, IMO. Guys like Gecevicius, Girdziunas are one way offensive SGs, Dovydas is solid a both ends. Lekavicius and D. Giedraitis would be LKL Lithuanian guard duet.
I tend to think Lekavicius, Ulanovas, Butkevicius, Orelikas, D. Giedraitis are top 5 Lithuanians in LKL this season.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Lekavicius on highest levels cant be even starting 5 player.Ulanovas in some case was playing in same system of team that made final four.
I simply thing to way player bring more to a team overall than just offensive bench scorer.
You cant rank objectively players you like as always
D.Giedraitis is at best only 3rd best lithuanian on his own team. Orelikas and Lipkevicius is more important to Lietkabelis.
Ask Canak he will tell you Lipkevicius is top 3 lietkabelis player this year by importance.
Lipkevicius brings to Lietkabelis what Ulanovas to Zalgiris,Butkevicius to Rytas. That glue guy that put everybody on same page in defence.Dudes that can defend guards also switch to PF and make it tough for them too.
Also some would argue Zemaitis was not worse this season than D.Giedraitis.Last edited by Shawshank; 05-08-2022, 12:00 PM.
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my best lkl lithuanians 2022
1.Ulanovas
2.Lekavicius
3.Butkevicius
4.Orelik
after that is not clear to me like 4-5 similiar level players from Rytas/Lietkabelis teams.
first 3 are NT players to me.
Orelik body i dont trust defensively. We cant have one more defensive liability playing near our nba bigs.Last edited by Shawshank; 05-08-2022, 12:13 PM.
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Originally posted by Shawshank View PostLekavicius on highest levels cant be even starting 5 player.Ulanovas in some case was playing in same system of team that made final four.
I simply thing to way player bring more to a team overall than just offensive bench scorer.
You cant rank objectively players you like as always
D.Giedraitis is at best only 3rd best lithuanian on his own team. Orelikas and Lipkevicius is more important to Lietkabelis.
Ask Canak he will tell you Lipkevicius is top 3 lietkabelis player this year by importance.
Lipkevicius brings to Lietkabelis what Ulanovas to Zalgiris,Butkevicius to Rytas. That glue guy that put everybody on same page in defence.Dudes that can defend guards also switch to PF and make it tough for them too.
Also some would argue Zemaitis was not worse this season than D.Giedraitis.
All your arguments against Giedraitis is legitimate, I also considered it prior my claim, but I stand it nevertheless.
FOA, even if Lipkevicius today is somewhat more impactful (which is debatable), I would start my team with 2 most important positions today - it's guards positions. We can clearly see that you can cover 3-4 spots with more or less quality players, but you can't survive the lack of quality of 1-2. Zalgiris season was a great example.
SOA, Lipkevicius is a bit worse version of Butkevicius. He lost his place in Zalgiris cause offensively he's completely unpredictable. He can make right decision in one possession and complete disaster in another. He's a good defender, but he's a wild player at offense. There's a reason why Butkevicius and Lipkevicius are not EL players and it's their lack of offensive abilities. Lipkevicius brings energy, hustle, but he's not consistent and high IQ decision maker. He can't sustain the environment which requires high standards of the decision making. He fits liberal Liekabelis basketball, but Eurocup is his ceiling. He's a poor man's Butkevicius, a bit less explosive and athletic, and even Butkevicius couldn't attract EL attention.
That's where Giedraitis value is so high. He's a true glue guy for Lietkabelis. His decision making is always consistent, he rarely will make absolutely wild play. He will facilitate others and will look for his own shot only when it's the best option. His mentality is always consistent. In other words, he has IQ, decision making and skill to prevail as EL player. While today Canak asks from him to be that low profile glue guy, and the team is set to feed Gagic and Orelik as first option, Giedraitis brings solidity for this team playing at 2, while players as Zemaitis, Lipkevicius and even Kalatizakis (to a lesser extent) are rather wild and possess much more up and downs in terms of their aggression and mentality.
Another thing. Can Lipkevicius guard Miller on a constant basis? No, not really. At least not current one, vet Lipkevicius who already lost an inch of his latteral quickness. That's why Canak was throwing Giedraitis at him.
Three reasons why Giedraitis emerging as top 5 Lithuanian material of LKL:
1. He's a guard.
2. IQ, decision making.
3. Defensive presence.
In my opinion all Giedraitis needs to become EL player is experience at this stage and health. That's all he needs. And today I don't see any better 2 ways SGs (or PGs) in the league. And 2 ways guard is more precious than any other position player today. I can build my entire offense around Lekavicius and Giedraitis. I can't do that with Ulanovas and specially Butkevicius/Lipkevicius.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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