Lithuania in Eurobasket 2022

[Straight forward]

While one marginalized warrior brought back to the unity, feistiest 1992 generation legend should too! 1992 generation got us



OK, that's the last trolling pic

[Shawshank]

Like 1984-1986 born had their run in 2010-2016

Now 1992-1994 born have their run in 2019-2024.

Its how cycles works.

But some people simply dont get it because they dont understand how history goes.

Even when its obviuos signs that those 1992-1994 born players will take atleats 8 spots in upcoming eurobasket.

Yeah put 10 old year levels kid photo with irrevelant players because its always hard to admit that you were wrong with your 1998-2000 kids projections

But dont worry 1998-2000 born kids run starts from 2025

[Straight forward]

History goes...You probably wrote your PHD from Hegel or Marx cause you are so wise idealist...

It doesn't work like that at all. NT is the puzzle of various age groups, the collection of best individuals. What it has to do with one or two age groups? What are you even talking about?

Take Olympics as that's highest level and most valuable medals by far.

1992 OT - Ronney, Sabas 64, Kurtinaitis 60, Karnisovas 71, Chomicius 59.

1996 OT Sabas 64, Karnisovas 71, Kurtis 60, Einikis 69, Marciulionis 64

2000 OT Saras 76, Stomba 73, Einikis, 69, Songaila 78, T. Masiulis 75

2004 OT Macas 80, Saras 76, Siska 78, Stomba 73, Songaula 78

And so on and so on.

In 2022 most likely JV 92, Domas 96, Jokubaitis 00, Grigonis 94 will be our best players.

Don't interpret all NT questions from your tiny 84-86 age group obsession, that's very stupid and it has nothing to do with reality cause even in that Kazlauskas' OC other guys like JV92, Lavrinovic 79, Kuzminskas 89, D-Mo 90, Delininkaitis 82 played important roles.

But you also wrote things that I'm quoting below, so It's pretty common for you to have some crazy ideas.

When in Day 1 of eurobasket 2022 Doncic gonna start scoring too much Skucas gonna put his ass on the ground from profilactic stand point.

When nothing works from basketball stand point im putting Skucas+Normantas tandem for few minutes to change atmosphere of the game.

[Dreamcatcher]

Dimsa, Kariniauskas, Butkevicius, Dimsa, Zukauskas for the trophy! Eurocup army marching! No more fucking excuses. 1992-1994 glorious generations golden age has risen! God Lord and couple of armor-bearers from other generation shall lead the way!

LOL...

Double warrior can make some noice.

[Straight forward]

Double warrior can make some noice.

Noice wit bruh

[Hepcat]

Dimsa, Kariniauskas, Butkevicius, Dimsa, Zukauskas for the trophy! Eurocup army marching! No more fucking excuses.

Like it or not, but two or three of those players will probably end up on the summer 2022 national team and will be valuable cogs/role players on the team. Quite simply Lithuania doesn't have twelve to twenty NBA superstars from which to choose so some of the players have to be naught but Euro-pro types.

[Straight forward]

Like it or not, but two or three of those players will probably end up on the summer 2022 national team and will be valuable cogs/role players on the team. Quite simply Lithuania doesn't have twelve to twenty NBA superstars from which to choose so some of the players have to be naught but Euro-pro types.

That's not the point. I was mocking Shawshank's manifest that exactly 1992-1994 guys are conquering the Europe ("No more excuses!"), naming bunch of guys who never even became EL players.That's extremely funny and idiotic at the same time.

[Straight forward]

At the very moment we are standing in a very strange situation. We are lacking small forwards. Sure, we have a bunch of average guys, but we never ever had weaker SF position than today. With decline of prime Maciulis and Kuzminskas we reached new, never seen before bottom of SF talent. Literally no-one today is close to these 2 prime guys, specially Maciulis, but Kuzminskas also was very strong piece in 2014-1017 stretch.

One way to solve this problem partially is to try to use Rokas Giedraitis at 3. Off course, defensively he would have issues, but offensively his game may even fit better at 3 than 2. Then whoever makes it (I don't really see much of the difference between them ATM) Kuzminskas, Sedekerskis, Butkevicius, Radzevicius, Ulanovas, they all are good cutters. That's IMO one of the moments that we failed to utilize. If we will build our offense around Sabonis more, we can really use this thing. Here's the illustration how good Domas is at facilitating from perimeter. We should find cutters more often cause all our current SFs are primarily cutters who can barely put the ball on the floor or create their own shot:

https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1483813705259249667

The only guy who is different is Brazdeikis. We don't know if he's ready any (IMO, not...), but he should be tested in the camp.

This problem is temporal as guys like Sedekerskis, Kulboka, Brazdeikis, Sirvydis in upcoming 2-3 years might reach the level of prime Maciulis/Kuzminskas and some of them may even surpass it, IMO.

The good thing that going even deeper we have legit talent. FOA, Buzelis and other guys like Lelevicius, Lokusius, Indrusaitis etc.

But ut at the moment we never had crappier SF line. It's deep, but all time most average...Our (recently) infamous guard line now is so much superior with Jokubaitis, Grigonis, Lekavicius, Kalnietis, Giedraitis

[Straight forward]

As I wrote previously, I think our main problem heading to Eurobasket is that we don't have starting SF. Literally we have no starting level SF...not a single one. Bunch of average forwards.

At the moment we could only dream about such SF as prime Maciulis, or even prime Kuzminskas. That says a lot cause those even those 2 are far from guys like Karnisovas, Stombergas, Siskauskas.

Suddenly we have a hole at 3 cause guys like Ulanovas are average as f...

[Shawshank]

SF players

2m00 R.Giedraitis (Euroleague)
1m98 Ulanovas (Euroleague)
2m05 Kuzminskas (Euroleague)
1m97 Butkevicius

we all know that R.Giedraitis is SF,but we are putting him as SG only because our SG is alot weaker compared to overload Sf lineup.

Today from SF is asked mostly to be 3 and D guys. Can Ulanovas,Butkevicius can do that? sure they can.

Way more problems is SG and PF positions. I dont wanna even imagine what to do if Grigonis wasnt joking that he doesnt see himself playing in eurobasket...

Game changers is in PG and SG positions players in 2020s basketball.

[Toruko]

3 and D forwards were yesterday. Nowadays forwards with handling abilities are most precisious pieces in bb. If you play against Batum Ulanovas wont help much. Ulanovas is ok if you have a guard who has elite creative abilities otherwise such guys make your offense stuck. I would accept Ulanovas from the bench.

[Toruko]

Lets check out your forward matches in your group.

Germany - Franz Wagner, next generation 6'10 defender with a solid overall game. Can be used as a cutter spot up shooter and slasher.

Nicola Batum - no need to write much about him, just that he revived from the deaths.

Slovenia - Jaka Blazic - solid shooter but no comparison to Germany or France.

Bosnia and Herzegovina - Dzanan Musa - scoring machine in a team with good defensive upside.

I think you have to evaluate your backcourt as a whole. Letting aside your creation problems you have a solid defensive problem as well.

[Straight forward]

SF players

2m00 R.Giedraitis (Euroleague)
1m98 Ulanovas (Euroleague)
2m05 Kuzminskas (Euroleague)
1m97 Butkevicius

we all know that R.Giedraitis is SF,but we are putting him as SG only because our SG is alot weaker compared to overload Sf lineup.

Today from SF is asked mostly to be 3 and D guys. Can Ulanovas,Butkevicius can do that? sure they can.

Way more problems is SG and PF positions. I dont wanna even imagine what to do if Grigonis wasnt joking that he doesnt see himself playing in eurobasket...

Game changers is in PG and SG positions players in 2020s basketball.

R. Giedraitis is finesse traditional swingman. Can you imagine him going against beasts Serbian SFs as Kalinicic, Lucic, France's Batum, Spain's Claver etc? He fits well offensively, but would be destroyed defensively.

Ulanovas is simply back up. He couldn't handle Fournier's athleticism in 2019 when he was in so much better shape than currently, BTW. He's EL forward, but far from our status quo starting SFs.

Butkevicius is good defensively, but that's all. I probably treat him the best option defensively from all our forwards, but his offence is super limited.

Sedekerskis has the highest eff in EL from all forwards. Athleticism, size and abilities wise he's to me closest thing to starting lineup level, but still not there, it's not even a debate.

Depth is good, but you have to have your quality main guys. It's fact that we never had crappier SF. When prime Maciulis, Kuzminskas seem to be unreachable now, it's says everything.

Kuzminskas can't play D and he won't be our primarily offensive option which he should if he wants to be useful.

[Straight forward]

I think you have to evaluate your backcourt as a whole. Letting aside your creation problems you have a solid defensive problem as well.

You do realize that Lithuania with Jokubaitis, Grigonis, Lekavicius, Kalnietis, Sabonis has way more facilitation than Turkey, right? Unless you meant ISO creation/slashing...At this point Turkey is superior with Larkin, Cedi, Korkmaz.

[Shawshank]

After watching Zalgiris-Rytas game that entire ltu comunity is watching we see who are boys and who are men.

Ulanovas,Lekavicius,Butkevicius this game show why they are in main NT.

Kalnietis and Kariniauskas was poor today.

Ulanovas just destroyed Radzevicius today.

Ulanovas is getting better no doubt in my eyes. His confidence is way better that it was after he comeback from Turkey.

By September he will just fine playing for coach that knows him since he was kid as our starting SF and Butkevicius very solid backup.

LTU NT problems is not there im least are affraid about that position. Our SF players gonna not only defend well their Sf position they gonna help PF position too playing some time there too.