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Lithuania in Eurobasket 2022
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LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Really bad luck for LTU again. Dont see LTU beating France but Germany as well as Slovenia cant be count as a clear win. Nevertheless would put LTU on 2 or 3. We on the other hand were really lucky. Georgia is not a problem at all, Russia is too old and too weak backcourt shouldnt be a big problem as well. Shortly said if Turkey ends up being second and LTU being third we could really encounter. Would prefer Germany over LTU but LTU is also not bad.
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Originally posted by Straight forward View PostI have roster set for 2022 set already as well:
Lekavicius, Jokubaitis, Velicka/Kariniauskas
Grigonis, R. Giedraitis
Ulanovas, Kuzminskas
Sabonis, Sedekerskis, Tubelis
Valanciunas, Gudaitis
A pretty bold prediction more than a year in advance. After all, four of those players haven't yet cracked any full summer team and Vaidas Kariniauskas' participation in the 2016 team can be termed "limited" at best. And there's many a slip twixt cup and lip.
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Originally posted by Straight forward View PostI agree about federation part. They had to do everything to agree with Georgia. Hopefully it's the last "favor" of this federation.
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Originally posted by Toruko View PostReally bad luck for LTU again. Dont see LTU beating France but Germany as well as Slovenia cant be count as a clear win. Nevertheless would put LTU on 2 or 3. We on the other hand were really lucky. Georgia is not a problem at all, Russia is too old and too weak backcourt shouldnt be a big problem as well. Shortly said if Turkey ends up being second and LTU being third we could really encounter. Would prefer Germany over LTU but LTU is also not bad.
Originally posted by Hepcat View Post
A pretty bold prediction more than a year in advance. After all, four of those players haven't yet cracked any full summer team and Vaidas Kariniauskas' participation in the 2016 team can be termed "limited" at best. And there's many a slip twixt cup and lip.
Originally posted by Hepcat View PostOpting to play in Germany was still the correct decision. After all, a Bronze medal is not the goal. If we want to win the Gold, we're going to have to beat the best teams. Period.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Originally posted by Hepcat View PostIt's simply way too early to speculate on a 2022 team before we even see how the 2021 team performs. Your projections are out too far.
I say let's wait until the 2021 team plays it's first friendly game before the Kaunas tourney until we make any projections even further into the future lol. I highly doubt 2022 team will be much different from this years squad to begin with imo
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The more I think about German NT, the more crazy federations' agreement looks to me. Let's look at this teams depth chart:
NBA players:
PG: Schroder
SG: Bonga
SF: Franz Wagner
PF: Moritz Wagner, Daniel Theis, Ariel Hukporti
C: Maxi Kleber, Isaiah Hartenstein
Franz Wagner is not yet in the NBA, but he's gonna be lottery pick this summer and should have an instant impact in the NBA, so he'll surely be a piece for Germany in 2022. Hukporti will also be drafted and probably will head straight to the NBA, even him aside there's 7 NBA players.
Let's add Euroleague players to the puzzle
Schroder, Maodo Lo
Bonga, Dedovic
Franz Wagner, Paul Zipser
Moritz Wagner, Daniel Theis, Ariel Hukporti[/B], Danilo Barthel
Maxi Kleber, Isaiah Hartenstein, Johannes Voigtmann
As usual our current federation is extremely considerative, jumping straight to the team which nearly beat France in FIBA 2019 and beat Canada and this time they are about to have Wagners Bros, Hartensrtein, Bonga and other big players. As usual a shout out for our federation.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Originally posted by Hepcat View PostNonetheless the Lithuanian team is 8-0 against Germany over the years versus 1-1 against Georgia and the victory was the nail biter in which Jonas Mačiulis took it upon himself to carry the team to victory by scoring 34 points.
Notice how Germany should probably be able to gather all NBA/EL team. That's serious. Essentially, after very very long time (00s), we will have a chance to do it as well in 2022. Even now in 2021 we are close to it if we would consider both Kalnietis and Kuzminskas as EL level players. I have a position that the country where basketball is national sports (the only in Europe) should be able to gather NT which consists only of EL/NBA players. If we can't do that, it's probably a sign of crappy job of federation (previous and current ones). Both in Vilnius and Kaunas I see too little basketball street courts (just to mention one of things that I don't understand), but I see "Krepsinio namai" taking place in the old town of Kaunas. As absolutely basketball crazy nation with deep traditions we shouldn't ever drop lower than top 5 in FIBA rankings.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Originally posted by Straight forward View PostThe more I think about German NT, the more crazy federations' agreement looks to me. Let's look at this teams depth chart:
NBA players:
PG: Schroder
SG: Bonga
SF: Franz Wagner
PF: Moritz Wagner, Daniel Theis, Ariel Hukporti
C: Maxi Kleber, Isaiah Hartenstein
Franz Wagner is not yet in the NBA, but he's gonna be lottery pick this summer and should have an instant impact in the NBA, so he'll surely be a piece for Germany in 2022. Hukporti will also be drafted and probably will head straight to the NBA, even him aside there's 7 NBA players.
Let's add Euroleague players to the puzzle
Schroder, Maodo Lo
Bonga, Dedovic
Franz Wagner, Paul Zipser
Moritz Wagner, Daniel Theis, Ariel Hukporti[/B], Danilo Barthel
Maxi Kleber, Isaiah Hartenstein, Johannes Voigtmann
As usual our current federation is extremely considerative, jumping straight to the team which nearly beat France in FIBA 2019 and beat Canada and this time they are about to have Wagners Bros, Hartensrtein, Bonga and other big players. As usual a shout out for our federation.
When you take a closer look to some names. Moritz cant defend and wont probably be in the States till 2022. Bonga can only defend and has 0 offensive upside. Yes Germany has many valuable Bigs but is very thin in other areas and they must also work with one of the worst decision maker in the history of Basketball.
Theiss, Kleber, Voigtmann and Barthel are clearly in front of the others and you dont need more guys.
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Originally posted by Toruko View PostYour logic works a bit too simple. The more NBA players the better... First of all this lineup of yours is nonsense because the Germans would never play with such young and inexperienced players together.
When you take a closer look to some names. Moritz cant defend and wont probably be in the States till 2022. Bonga can only defend and has 0 offensive upside. Yes Germany has many valuable Bigs but is very thin in other areas and they must also work with one of the worst decision maker in the history of Basketball.
Theiss, Kleber, Voigtmann and Barthel are clearly in front of the others and you dont need more guys.LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:
Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
Buzelis, Lelevicius
Murauskas, Sirvydis
Tubelis, Krivas
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Originally posted by Straight forward View PostYou shouldn't exhibit your interpretation and than name of the name of my logic I never said the more NBA player the better, I'm saying Germany is too sacked to be treated as mediocre team, the one that you would want to be in the same group and so on. I don't see how 22yo Bonga or 21yo lottery pick would be too young to crack Germany's roster. If they will want it, they will be in the team, IMO. To complain about Schroder who is at the time among among top three European point guards (along with Doncic and Rubio) is a bit out of hand TBH. When you have a guy who can give you 20/9/4 and 22ef (5th in 2019 WC), you don't particularly pointing out at his decision making. I never said it's a perfect team, but it can be deadly on a given night and they never even had their all pieces together yet.
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Dennis is a ball watcher and is horrible during clutch times. He got better this season with his horrible defense and I am sure he could be a good defender but he is simply not interested. Germans need a good play maker beside him maybe then he could be usable.
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Originally posted by Straight forward View PostI have a position that the country where basketball is national sports (the only in Europe) should be able to gather NT which consists only of EL/NBA players.
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