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    For the good of the team Popovich should get double technicals and get tossed in the opening minutes of every remaining game. He’s known for stunts like that like when he purposely got ejected in a he first half of a game with the Spurs so assistant Becky Hammon can be the first woman to coach an NBA game. But that was an selfish self serving move anyway. It was more to feed his ego of what a great guy he is to do something like that rather than actually give Hammon the opportunity to coach. Funny how Becky Hammon is close with Popovich. Here’s a woman who became a Russian citizen so she can play against the US in the Olympics. She and Pop have a lot in common.
    By the way isn’t it funny or actually appropriate that Jrue Holiday was the USA’s best player. He literally has spent 5 minutes with Popovich. It’s all downhill from here Jrue.
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    Interesting article by Ian O’Connor of NY Post about Popovich. Turns out that he was runner up to coach K in 2008 for the Olympic job. Thankfully Colangelo made the right choice back then. His comment was that “he didn’t feel it from Pop”. He should have remembered his initial gut feeling and not handed him the job this time either. Also interesting how Popovich complained to friends about Coach K continuing on as the head man in 2012 and 2016 by saying “I didn’t know this was a lifetime position”.
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    One should not wonder why Popovich is not surprised when team USA loses. That’s all he’s accustomed to in World events.
    2002 assistant at Worlds lost in quarters
    2004 assistant Olympics lost in semis
    2019 worlds head lost in quarters
    2021 Olympics head 2-3 so far including exhibitions.

    If I had his pedigree I would be surprised if we actually won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usagre View Post
    Interesting article by Ian O’Connor of NY Post about Popovich. Turns out that he was runner up to coach K in 2008 for the Olympic job. Thankfully Colangelo made the right choice back then. His comment was that “he didn’t feel it from Pop”. He should have remembered his initial gut feeling and not handed him the job this time either. Also interesting how Popovich complained to friends about Coach K continuing on as the head man in 2012 and 2016 by saying “I didn’t know this was a lifetime position”.
    Coach K earned it, Pop did not. Pop is only really good at the NBA, never at FIBA. And even in the NBA he has been rusting.
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    Not sure why all on here got salty when the Serbian coach said Gilas lacked any real quality. I mean isn't that glaringly obvious.

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    30 years of NBA/USA teams and a total of 14 losses.
    Popovich has been associated with 13 of them.
    You can’t make this stuff up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    First impressions about Booker?
    Looked horrible. Don’t know why Pop played him as much as he did. Hurt the team.

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    I found a way out for Popovich while at the same time catering to his enormous ego. He should fake some health issues very reasonable since he is in his 70’s and go home. If the US fails without him which they probably would since they’ve wasted a month under him he can say “see it wasn’t my fault!’. And on the other hand If they get their shit together and win it he can say they rallied and did it for their beloved coach. Anything please just get that grumpy pathetic loser off the team please!
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    Truly think Popovich would be happier coaching Croatia, and Team USA would be better served. He has so much reverence for international basketball that he makes his team play with a hand tied behind their backs. Such a noble diplomat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    I will take that as compliment, knowing from whom it comes. Tobey says hello.
    Madmax and I are grateful you translated Mike Tobey's greeting from Slovenian.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckDiesel2 View Post
    Truly think Popovich would be happier coaching Croatia, and Team USA would be better served.
    Hmmmm. Not that I'm any kind of fan of Team U.S.A., but have you ever considered whether Gregg Popovich and a team of pampered NBA stars might deserve each other?

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    This isn't opponents improving, no coach even from our local high school level would not make this version of us team have a scoring drought...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hepcat View Post
    Madmax and I are grateful you translated Mike Tobey's greeting from Slovenian.

    I have a feeling that Luka&co., especially Luka, was very gentle with you.
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    Not to shift away the blame from Popovich, as certainly the game plan, substitution patterns, and play calling haven't helped; but his hiring is just another one in a long string of awful decisions from team officials. Lack of accountability, seemingly fueled by arrogance (you don't have to sweat the small details, or put up the hard work when you are going to dominate anyway on talent alone) is the real cancer here. Any other medal-contender federation messes up a preparation before the Olympics like the USAB did, heads roll immediately.

    But you see what's happening: blame the coach, blame the stars that didn't show up. When the real problem is the do-as-you-please culture that has slowly taken over the USAB since 2008. Players can back out at the last minute and there's little repercussions. Coaches can do an appalling job and they are called back the next year. Play can be average and no measures are taken as long as they bring back the gold. And it has reached a point that, even after a resounding loss in the World Cup, nothing has been done to improve. Because, you know, the US only has to show up with the best players in the world. Simple as that. Are we talkin' 'bout practice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    I have a feeling that Luka&co., especially Luka, was very gentle with you.
    We'll probably be able to pronounce upon that after the medal ceremony. Did Lithuania suck this year or was Lithuania simply unlucky enough to be facing a team that was just too good?

    So far the prevailing sentiment in the Lithuanian forum is that the coach really sucked. Other than that there's a lot of disagreement concerning what needs to be "fixed".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell Armstrong View Post
    Lack of accountability, seemingly fueled by arrogance (you don't have to sweat the small details, or put up the hard work when you are going to dominate anyway on talent alone) is the real cancer here. Any other medal-contender federation messes up a preparation before the Olympics like the USAB did, heads roll immediately.

    But you see what's happening: blame the coach, blame the stars that didn't show up. When the real problem is the do-as-you-please culture that has slowly taken over the USAB since 2008.... Because, you know, the US only has to show up with the best players in the world. Simple as that. Are we talkin' 'bout practice?
    I agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hepcat View Post
    We'll probably be able to pronounce upon that after the medal ceremony. Did Lithuania suck this year or was Lithuania simply unlucky enough to be facing a team that was just too good?

    So far the prevailing sentiment in the Lithuanian forum is that the coach really sucked. Other than that there's a lot of disagreement concerning what needs to be "fixed".

    I don't know about your coach, but the ease how Slovenia is scoring was previously seen only by good Americans teams in Fiba competitions. Add to that structure of your team, best players bigs, it's not that easy to do something. Luka even had poor shooting day for 3 in Lithuania, he looked much better today. I will say that Lithuania was clearly unlucky, because even Serbia was much worse team that Slovenia in that moment.

    It's kinda obvious where problem lies. Your guards are not good enough and Sabonis junior is nowhere near as good as his father was. Talks how Sedekerskis could have been saviour are just laughable, no one is stoping Luka in this form. Clippers have the best wing defenders in Nba and they couldn't do anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell Armstrong View Post
    Not to shift away the blame from Popovich, as certainly the game plan, substitution patterns, and play calling haven't helped; but his hiring is just another one in a long string of awful decisions from team officials. Lack of accountability, seemingly fueled by arrogance (you don't have to sweat the small details, or put up the hard work when you are going to dominate anyway on talent alone) is the real cancer here. Any other medal-contender federation messes up a preparation before the Olympics like the USAB did, heads roll immediately.

    But you see what's happening: blame the coach, blame the stars that didn't show up. When the real problem is the do-as-you-please culture that has slowly taken over the USAB since 2008. Players can back out at the last minute and there's little repercussions. Coaches can do an appalling job and they are called back the next year. Play can be average and no measures are taken as long as they bring back the gold. And it has reached a point that, even after a resounding loss in the World Cup, nothing has been done to improve. Because, you know, the US only has to show up with the best players in the world. Simple as that. Are we talkin' 'bout practice?
    Your timeline is off. When Jerry Colangelo took over in 05 he understood and emphasized the necessity of building a “program” instead of a hastily slapped together All-Star team. He required a three year commitment, and the core of the 06 team played together in 07 at the FIBA Americas. By the time 08 rolled around they’d had three years together in Coach K’s system. That went out the window for some reason.

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    Us is so lucky that they didnt play a olympict qualifying tournament as they will stumble in one of games like canada did
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckDiesel2 View Post
    Your timeline is off. When Jerry Colangelo took over in 05 he understood and emphasized the necessity of building a “program” instead of a hastily slapped together All-Star team. He required a three year commitment, and the core of the 06 team played together in 07 at the FIBA Americas. By the time 08 rolled around they’d had three years together in Coach K’s system. That went out the window for some reason.
    It's not off. I said slowly taken over since 2008. 2008 was the peak year for USAB. I clearly remember Kobe Bryant playing in the Americas Championship. But after the success of the Redeem Team they discarded the concepts that made that redemption possible, bit by bit. And now they're back in 2004-like chaos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    alks how Sedekerskis could have been saviour are just laughable....
    Truth. Tadas Sedekerskis is soft and lacks the take charge attitude he should have given his physique. Lithuania may have benefitted though from the in-your-face physical toughness against Dončić that Jonas Mačiulis would have provided but Mačiulis wasn't even invited to camp probably because Coach Maskoliūnas thought that Mačiulis was too old to help the team.


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