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    Quote Originally Posted by astigram04 View Post
    One more observation is that Kai and kouame hasn't jelled yet. If they displayed the same chemistry Kai and Aj has shown at batang gilas, we would've seen more of them together on the court. I hope it's just the lack of familiarity. I do see them getting along well off the court.

    Baltazar has been a revelation to me. I was very critical of the way he, Go and Carino defended Jakrawan but yeah, maybe it's because he's more fit for the wing. Judging from his progress, he might be ready for the world cup. I won't be surprised if navarro also makes it. RJ , I think, can make the team too. SJ, he's really a 2 guard. If only he's like 6'3 at least, PWD na yan, but he's 5'10. Marami nmng ibng guards na pwdng idevelop

    Another, malayo ang galing nitong Baldwin Kay Toroman.
    Baltazar already seems to be our best perimeter defender and he is still improving. He sticks to his man on drives. He doesnt get the block but his man doesnt have a good angle. He was attacked on drives and I think all misses. On close outs his length also bothers his man. One improvement I saw is he doesnt bite on fakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    Here's how I see it, except for the center spot, I see a PBA-select RP team being more talented than this current Gilas team. But pitting the two teams, I'll bet my rent money on coach Tab's Gilas team.

    Its a system vs. system contest.
    A 2005 Asi Taulava could be a force to reckon with for this Gilas squad playing the 4 position alongside Kai and Kouame..

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    I am actually scared of the DR game. This team has not fought against a team with athleticism and length. And they will take us seriously from the start. It will be a do or die. This will probably be a faster pace. So more challenges for Kai.

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    So who is the better center, Junmar Fajardo or Kouame in the FIBA game?

    23-year old Junmar was close to a being a bench player of the Chot Reyes-mentored Gilas team in 2013 FIBA Asia Championship (though Junmar was awesome in the 2014 FIBA World Cup) while Kouame, presently 23 years old, is already impressive. I think Kouame has the qualities of a FIBA big guy - mobile, quick, athletic & has some outside shooting & handles.
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    Hopefully, will close games with DR/RJ, heading, balti, anj and kai. Im ranting because it is so unusual to see kai riding the bench in the most crucial minutes of the game. He could rest the first half of the 4th but should be inserted in the 6th to 10th minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IshmaelM View Post
    I am actually scared of the DR game. This team has not fought against a team with athleticism and length. And they will take us seriously from the start. It will be a do or die. This will probably be a faster pace. So more challenges for Kai.
    DR is a different animal from Serbia. Yung Serbia very European basketball yung style & has size. DR isn't that big but most of its players are athletic & its style of play closely resembles the American style of play. I think its good experience for Gilas playing oppositions with variety.

    Regardless if we win or not vs. DR, its still a valuable experience for our boys. But I'm confident, it will be another close game. Of course, I hope we get the win this time.
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    Quote Originally Posted by IshmaelM View Post
    Baltazar already seems to be our best perimeter defender and he is still improving. He sticks to his man on drives. He doesnt get the block but his man doesnt have a good angle. He was attacked on drives and I think all misses. On close outs his length also bothers his man. One improvement I saw is he doesnt bite on fakes.
    Which is the complete opposite of Ja_eth, right?
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    I really can't understand the mentality of "some" PBA fans, specially Ginebra fans, at how significant to them that their favorite team/s win a championship. I mean, what's the significance seeing a Filipino team beating a Filipino team? What glory is there that SMB or Ginebra teams, both souped up teams which is the effect of lop-sided trades & having farm teams, would dominate the PBA? I see it as "kababawan".

    I used to follow PBA a lot during the 90's & early 2000's, & I had a favorite team naman but seeing my favorite team winning in the PBA doesn't really give me as much joy & satisfaction compared to seeing the Philippine national team wins a game. I mean seeing my favorite PBA team win somehow makes me happy & satisfied but seeing RP basketball team wins gives me 100 times more joy & satisfaction.
    equally annoying and irritating would be PBA fans insisting that Brownlee should be the naturalized player and ineligibles Cstan and Pringle should be added, nakakapagod magpalowanag ng FIBA eligibilty rules to these type of fans

    another irritating issue would be their lack of concept of player development (always insisting that pba players are better, well yes but they are not always available or in their primes), age of players by 2023 (fajardo and aguilar will be out of their primes in 2 yrs time) and the importance of training (sanay sa hugot system)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeZones View Post
    Kai was really decent today. I just hate that Tab keeps on benching Kai ALWAYS in the 4th quarter. He played 20min and another 5 wont be bad. Tab plays favorite his closer were always SJ and Kouame. I want that he include in his closing lineup and remove dribble boy shoot first SJ.

    I also would want passes on Kai's scoring positions. Kai tried to drive thrice today from the 3point line and I don't want that to be the norm. That is too risky and tasking. He had a decent floater from the foul line and that should be ideal. Easier and almost unstoppable.
    Sorry, tab is half of the reason why we are able to compete. His system is not centered in one player alone, you are thinking that the defense of Serbia is not seeing Kai coming but they do and Kai knows that and the PG knows that too. Kai also just needs to improve his position plays and pivot plays as well as his soft touches. Gilas is not all about Kai alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeZones View Post
    Anung pay?lol kouame scored on a bank 3 and tsambang tira yun.lol Kai doesnt need to push opponents to disrupt the offensive player. his length alone would be sufficient. You count how many points boban incur with anj and compare it with against kai. Anj did damage against petrusev. Kai did his against boban. His 3s were good lines and ano ba yung isang 3 ni anj tsamba pa.lol

    It is already evident tab's pattern he take kai as kouame's reliever in the 4th. Usually he inserts kai 1 to 2 min or lesser in the end but he wont close it with kai.

    Serbia wont eagerly call post play for boban when kai was defending him. On the other hand, when anj was on bobi they go through boban immediately.

    Manuod ng maayos.lol
    watch it again at 4:39 mark of 4Q. Kai allowed a deep seal for Boban that resulted in a foul from the help of Tamayo. he fronted (although he was facing towards the basket) Boban. Kai was immediately subbed out by Tab after that. Kai needs to push or it will be Boban in front of the rim, this is big man basics. Ange does a better job pushing out beyond the semi circle in the hoop but Boban just scored over him with 1-handers.

    my point is: it's not bias of the coach, but rather a sound basketball decision. if Kai hit those 2 3's (2nd one was uncontested), then i assume Kai would be on the floor longer in 4Q. put your blinders off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    Here's how I see it, except for the center spot, I see a PBA-select RP team being more talented than this current Gilas team. But pitting the two teams, I'll bet my rent money on coach Tab's Gilas team.

    Its a system vs. system contest.
    A 2005 Asi Taulava could be a force to reckon with for this Gilas squad playing the 4 position alongside Kai and Kouame..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeZones View Post
    Hopefully, will close games with DR/RJ, heading, balti, anj and kai. Im ranting because it is so unusual to see kai riding the bench in the most crucial minutes of the game. He could rest the first half of the 4th but should be inserted in the 6th to 10th minute.
    It is normal for a player to rest long in the bench if he lacks stamina and strength in the end.

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    Balti I agree was a real revelation. 80%FG percentage including 67% from beyond the arc. Plus the ability to keep up with his man in the perimeter. I'm just scared that they'll stick him back in the middle once he's playing in the UAAP again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noyce View Post
    watch it again at 4:39 mark of 4Q. Kai allowed a deep seal for Boban that resulted in a foul from the help of Tamayo. he fronted (although he was facing towards the basket) Boban. Kai was immediately subbed out by Tab after that. Kai needs to push or it will be Boban in front of the rim, this is big man basics. Ange does a better job pushing out beyond the semi circle in the hoop but Boban just scored over him with 1-handers.

    my point is: it's not bias of the coach, but rather a sound basketball decision. if Kai hit those 2 3's (2nd one was uncontested), then i assume Kai would be on the floor longer in 4Q. put your blinders off.
    Watch it again, kai actually blocked it cleanly. It’s just unfortunate that tamayo got called for a foul. And other than that, boban feasted on kouame in that 4th quarter, didn’t he

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    Quote Originally Posted by noyce View Post
    watch it again at 4:39 mark of 4Q. Kai allowed a deep seal for Boban that resulted in a foul from the help of Tamayo. he fronted (although he was facing towards the basket) Boban. Kai was immediately subbed out by Tab after that. Kai needs to push or it will be Boban in front of the rim, this is big man basics. Ange does a better job pushing out beyond the semi circle in the hoop but Boban just scored over him with 1-handers.

    my point is: it's not bias of the coach, but rather a sound basketball decision. if Kai hit those 2 3's (2nd one was uncontested), then i assume Kai would be on the floor longer in 4Q. put your blinders off.
    Boban sealed kai in the fourth and kai poke the pass and it resulted to a steal. It is expected that kai cant handle all of boban but it was obvious that boban was having hard time with kai than with anj. You could count bobi's score against each and you would know. It is not only about pushing Bobi he had all the push in the NBA. It is Kai's length that bothers him while Anj is too small to disrupt his attempts. Kai could also deny passes to bobi and his guards were hesitant.

    It is also a pattern for in all our games that Tab wont use kai that much in the 4th. Kai serves as anj reliever for 1 to 2minutes then anj would close the game. I would have prefer that they both stay together like we use to see kai and aj with BG. Prob lang tab is using SJ and he wont be passing the ball to this bigs. Those 3s were goodlines and you cant fault him for that. Anj 3 was just tsamba. Tab's closer is already set that he would stick SJ even if he is a mess and that kai would just be anj reliever for a quickrest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdmiral View Post
    Tab said it best the only way to compete vs world level talent ( better talent) is via cohesion , chemistry .. you cannot out talent them or out one on one them..

    Tactically mature is the word ,, sorry if it offends..
    That's the exact same thing ex-Kume Eala tweeted to describe the Gilas game: https://twitter.com/NoliEala/status/1410427735265013763

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    Double post
    Last edited by PeeZones; 07-01-2021 at 07:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeZones View Post
    Boban sealed kai in the fourth and kai poke the pass and it resulted to a steal. It is expected that kai cant handle all of boban but it was obvious that boban was having hard time with kai than with anj. You could count bobi's score against each and you would know. It is not only about pushing Bobi he had all the push in the NBA. It is Kai's length that bothers him while Anj is too small to disrupt his attempts. Kai could also deny passes to bobi and his guards were hesitant.

    It is also a pattern for in all our games that Tab wont use kai that much in the 4th. Kai serves as anj reliever for 1 to 2minutes then anj would close the game. I would have prefer that they both stay together like we use to see kai and aj with BG. Prob lang tab is using SJ and he wont be passing the ball to this bigs. Those 3s were goodlines and you cant fault him for that. Anj 3 was just tsamba. Tab's closer is already set that he would stick SJ even if he is a mess and that kai would just be anj reliever for a quickrest.
    i think Kai would play longer if the offense would compensate the defense. also, with Ange and Kai combo, sometimes Kai is slow to the help. anyway, there is enough time to finetune that.

    SJ runs the play before resorting to heroball, but RJ has a tendency to play heroball immediately. it is what it is, until we get a better PG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    I know Jordan Heading doesn't have too many fans here but I think he's making a good argument as one of the good prospects for the 2023 FIBA World Cup-bound Gilas team. His games in the rematch vs. Korea, tune-up game vs. China & that game vs. world super power Serbia are just too good to be ignored.

    I think the way he played in those 3 games, he looks to be a better shooter than a Matt Wright in so far as playing in a higher level game is concerned.
    I can't recall Wright having a good or breakout shooting game or consistent one unlike Jeff Chan, Hontiveros or the like. He always end up as wing defender which is still good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astigram View Post
    Watch it again, kai actually blocked it cleanly. It’s just unfortunate that tamayo got called for a foul. And other than that, boban feasted on kouame in that 4th quarter, didn’t he
    it is good one-on-one defense by Kouame but better offense by Boban. you can doubt Tab that he should have instructed a double team ala Tab's employed defense on Haddadi, but it is what it is. double team will also result into a pass to shooter. we just have to live with that.

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