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  • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
    Well they better get residency and playing years in the Philippines then. There is no exception without those, never was.
    I'm curious. Got any ideas why more than half of Nigeria's roster(most of them born, lived and studied in the US) got exemptions?

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    • Originally posted by Jupitersa View Post
      I'm curious. Got any ideas why more than half of Nigeria's roster(most of them born, lived and studied in the US) got exemptions?
      Yes their citizenship laws (which I shared previously) are so much easier to acquire citizenship, so any prospect of decent level below 16 , they basically can wholesale give them passports .(even grand parent roots is sufficient), naturalization of minors is doable as well. (It's not for us)
      Read below how easy it is to register as a Nigerian citizen
      Basically the president can grant citizenship to anyone .. so the Nigerian federation can simply give the president a list of 15 yrs old, then done.
      By registration: 26. (1) Subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, a person to whom
      the provisions of this section apply may be registered as a citizen of Nigeria, if the President is satisfied that -

      (a) He is a person of good character; two people to testify to that which one should a Religious minister...
      (b) He has shown a clear intention of his desire to be domiciled in Nigeria; and
      (c) He has taken the Oath of Allegiance prescribed in the Seventh Schedule to this Constitution.


      Essentially if Sage Tolentino wanted to be Nigerian before 16, and the President liked him, he could be granted Nigerian citizenship.
      With us even if Sage was fine with us working to get his passport via hokus pokus, we could not.

      Bottom line Nigeria can do hokus pokus instant u have a passport we cannot
      Last edited by DAdmiral; 07-27-2021, 07:36 AM.

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        While funny, it actually is true.. as I said before LeBron may have more lineage to an African nation than Clarkson has to the Philippines,
        It shows u lineage cannot be the basis

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          Ariel Hukporti, a 7-foot centre out of Germany, has signed with Melbourne United as part of the NBL’s Next Stars program, multiple sources told ESPN.

          Philippine Malditas to FIFA Womens World Cup 2023

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          • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
            Yes their citizenship laws (which I shared previously) are so much easier to acquire citizenship, so any prospect of decent level below 16 , they basically can wholesale give them passports .(even grand parent roots is sufficient), naturalization of minors is doable as well. (It's not for us)
            Read below how easy it is to register as a Nigerian citizen
            Basically the president can grant citizenship to anyone .. so the Nigerian federation can simply give the president a list of 15 yrs old, then done.
            By registration: 26. (1) Subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, a person to whom
            the provisions of this section apply may be registered as a citizen of Nigeria, if the President is satisfied that -

            (a) He is a person of good character; two people to testify to that which one should a Religious minister...
            (b) He has shown a clear intention of his desire to be domiciled in Nigeria; and
            (c) He has taken the Oath of Allegiance prescribed in the Seventh Schedule to this Constitution.


            Essentially if Sage Tolentino wanted to be Nigerian before 16, and the President liked him, he could be granted Nigerian citizenship.
            With us even if Sage was fine with us working to get his passport via hokus pokus, we could not.

            Bottom line Nigeria can do hokus pokus instant u have a passport we cannot
            closest thing we have to that would be Congress passing a bill naturalizing someone, but that will take months/years, been done to minors like Akiko Thompson (90s swimmer, japanse mom, american father raised in the country) and Farrell Eldrian Wu (born and raised in the country from Chinese migrant parents)
            Last edited by CoJ; 07-27-2021, 05:25 PM.

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            • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
              closest thing we have to hocus pokus would be Congress passing a bill naturalizing someone, but that will take months/years, been done to minors like Akiko Thompson (90s swimmer, japanse mom, american father raised in the country) and Farrell Eldrian Wu (born and raised in the country from Chinese migrant parents)
              Call it whatever you like, but please have some respect with our process. It is very offensive to call a completely legal act of Congress as Hokus Pokus, when the process is not so easy to get.

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              • Originally posted by PaVi View Post
                Call it whatever you like, but please have some respect with our process. It is very offensive to call a completely legal act of Congress as Hokus Pokus, when the process is not so easy to get.
                duly noted sorry for the use of the wrong term

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                • These guys are next star programme sign-ups., it's not an insignificant fact, it does actually matter.

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                    • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                      These guys are next star programme sign-ups., it's not an insignificant fact, it does actually matter.
                      Bring it on!

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                      • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                        These guys are next star programme sign-ups., it's not an insignificant fact, it does actually matter.
                        ur point in relation to kai is?

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                        • anyone here listens to chad ford's nba big board podcast? he had david thorpe, a respected coach and analyst, as a guest yesterday. anyway, he said some interesting things about the IGNITE program. he said that he has been diving in on international high level games, college basketball games, and the gleague showcase in which he has clients. he said that the tactics being run at IGNITE was garbage especially when compared to the international leagues. yep, exact word used was "garbage". the gleague team's system was "give it to green then get out of the way.... your turn, your turn, your turn..." he felt that player development within the IGNITE system did NOT turn out well.

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                          • Originally posted by dubidub View Post
                            anyone here listens to chad ford's nba big board podcast? he had david thorpe, a respected coach and analyst, as a guest yesterday. anyway, he said some interesting things about the IGNITE program. he said that he has been diving in on international high level games, college basketball games, and the gleague showcase in which he has clients. he said that the tactics being run at IGNITE was garbage especially when compared to the international leagues. yep, exact word used was "garbage". the gleague team's system was "give it to green then get out of the way.... your turn, your turn, your turn..." he felt that player development within the IGNITE system did NOT turn out well.
                            That was said countless times here and that was really the reality. Somehow the era of perimeter oriented offense and heavily relying on 3s has been waning down. The top 5 players in the NBA now were mostly bigs. Giannis, jokic, and Embiid showcased how big skilled players could easily dominate small players. Even US team's small ball has been an eyesore. It is giving everyone an even playing field to compete and bigger teams were attacking their frontline. Bam has been useless and being exploited hence the late inclusion of Mcgee. The GSW era of raining 3s and abandoning post plays is almost over. Resurgence of bigs would follow and it would be better for Kai. The lineup of KD, Steph and Klay was too dominant before but it wont happen again. Bully ball would once again flourish and tall skilled bigs would be as important as anybody again. Giannis showed that even without a perimeter shot he could win a championship.lol Ben Simmons would have a resurgence if he would just attack the basket specially against small ball playing teams.

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                            • Originally posted by neo View Post
                              ur point in relation to kai is?
                              All NBL franchises would want to avail of a next star programme sign-up ( that has specific requirement to be a "next NBA season draft prospect) , Kai actually tried to fall under this classification but did not meet the requirement .

                              The reason every team wants to avail of a next star programme , is the programme salary of the player is funded by the league front office , not the individual teams ( note many teams are struggling financially including the 36sers) , plus the contract amount whiich isn't small, is not counted against a team's salary cap. a development player contract like Kai is .

                              The assessment if a player is next year draft prospect is done by the league office (many of which are ex NBA personnel) certainly not by me or anyone in the public.. that is not to say that a development player cannot eventually be a NBA draft prospect ,it simply means that for the next 2022 NBA draft the front office of the NBL which is made up people connected to the NBA do not consider the player "yet" to be a 2022 draftee.

                              This is standard stuff. not unique to kai or nothing to single out Kai, the Breakers signed NZ NBL top center Sam Timmins under a development contract , but also signed French Dieng to their Next Star program sign-up. Dieng is indeed a next season NBA prospect (he's listed in many mock drafts) , Sam Timmins is NOT. it is what it is, nothing to single out anyone. especially not Kai.

                              Ariel is a next star sign-up, while Manny Malou is NOT. nothing really unique..
                              Last edited by DAdmiral; 07-28-2021, 10:02 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                                All NBL franchises would want to avail of a next star programme sign-up ( that has specific requirement to be a "next NBA season draft prospect) , Kai actually tried to fall under this classification but did not meet the requirement .

                                The reason every team wants to avail of a next star programme , is the programme salary of the player is funded by the league front office , not the individual teams ( note many teams are struggling financially including the 36sers) , plus the contract amount whiich isn't small, is not counted against a team's salary cap. a development player contract like Kai is .

                                The assessment if a player is next year draft prospect is done by the league office (many of which are ex NBA personnel) certainly not by me or anyone in the public.. that is not to say that a development player cannot eventually be a NBA draft prospect ,it simply means that for the next 2022 NBA draft the front office of the NBL which is made up people connected to the NBA do not consider the player "yet" to be a 2022 draftee.

                                This is standard stuff. not unique to kai or nothing to single out Kai, the Breakers signed NZ NBL top center Sam Timmins under a development contract , but also signed French Dieng to their Next Star program sign-up. Dieng is indeed a next season NBA prospect (he's listed in many mock drafts) , Sam Timmins is NOT. it is what it is, nothing to single out anyone. especially not Kai.

                                Wait so is it correct that Japan B league offers more than Australia NBL as I see some nbl players play in Japan during nbl season and just return back and some guys like Julian Kazzouh back then go to lebanon..

                                As for the bolded part, does this mean nbl gets a financial return to this like what happened to Lamelo ball and now Josh Giddey?
                                To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                                1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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