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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    Is there interest or is it just wishful thinking of you.
    The latter. It's completely open now whenever Augustas stays in Vilnius or goes to NCAA. So Wildcats would be not the worst place at all at his point.
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    Generally spoken, I think its always better to play professionally in Europe premised you have enough responsibility and play time but it doesnt look like Rytas is ready to give him that role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    Generally spoken, I think its always better to play professionally in Europe premised you have enough responsibility and play time but it doesnt look like Rytas is ready to give him that role.
    It's tricky. There's no obvious answer which is better at this point. For Jokubaitis this path seems to work perfectly, but he had Saras as the one who formed him and guided. Augustas is playing with questionable coaches in the practices, but has his dad by his side and individual shooting coach. In Rytas his role would be bigger probably around some 16-18min, but in NCAA he could probably expect 22-25min and more chances to show off in more open basketball and likely much better coaching. Tricky.
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    Augustas Marčiulionis has played an average of 12:22 minutes in 27 LKL games this year. He's been starting lately but how many minutes he gets on the court has correlated with how well he's been playing each game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hepcat View Post
    Augustas Marčiulionis has played an average of 12:22 minutes in 27 LKL games this year. He's been starting lately but how many minutes he gets on the court has correlated with how well he's been playing each game.

    Bičkauskis (except the game against Žalgiris) started for around 15 games now. Žibėnas is a young promising coach, but this is exactly the reason why it's not in favor for Augustas. Žibėnas wants to win and he's not in position to give tiny credit for Augustas. Marčiulionis can only dream about how Schiller allows Jokubaitis to go through his mistakes. But, hey, it's PRO, deal with that, thicken your skin, be patient, spit with blood and sweat in trainings.
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    One of the best Marčiulionis games in LKL. 10pts, 7as, 3st, 18eff in 22min. In last 9 games he made only 2 turnovers, that 0,2tpg. Lately he basically doesn't turn the ball over. His 3pts shooting increased to 42,4%. I'm satisfied with how he progresses, every year he puts up real work and gradually improves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    One of the best Marčiulionis games in LKL. 10pts, 7as, 3st, 18eff in 22min. In last 9 games he made only 2 turnovers, that 0,2tpg. Lately he basically doesn't turn the ball over. His 3pts shooting increased to 42,4%. I'm satisfied with how he progresses, every year he puts up real work and gradually improves.
    My comment illustrated with highlights:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-acvN2kUFU
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    This season in domestic leagues so far PER 36:

    Jokubaitis 14,7pts, 7,2as
    Velicka 17,4pts, 7,4as
    Marciulionis 14,2pts, 6,3as (Jokubaitis at Augis' age 14,1pts, 4,8as)

    All three doing well at respectable club level.
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    It's interesting that Bičkauskis PER 36 is 13,3pts, 6,3as. But off course he had very crappy first half of season under Kairys and now playing more reliably.
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    I finally see a guy who doesn't suck physically, looks pretty ripped and that's high upside guard. That's pretty much the look of guard that I want to see:



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    Physically Arnas Velička looks great. He's as ripped as Dovis Bičkauskis and at 195 cm. and 91 kg. Velička is bigger than even Mantas Kalnietis who's 196 cm. and 89 kg.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hepcat View Post
    Physically Arnas Velička looks great. He's as ripped as Dovis Bičkauskis and at 195 cm. and 91 kg. Velička is bigger than even Mantas Kalnietis who's 196 cm. and 89 kg.

    Indeed he is. And he's already probably the best contact slasher in the country. He uses that body, doesn't mind few bruises inside. He'll need at least couple of more years to become serious bulldog for the NT, but it's interesting that he and Jokubaitis are already set size wise. Jokubaitis stands were prime Jasikevicius was standing in 2003 pretty much, just Rokas is one cementer taller - 193cm, 88kg.

    Marciulionis on other hand is not there yet, 193cm and 81kg.
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    Kajus Kublickas interesting piece. In September he'll turn 17. 186cm maybe can add some more in upcoming years. Very gifted with the ball in his hands, aggressive 1vs1. IMO, should be above average athlete, reads the game well. May be the best PG prospect after Augis, Rokas, Arnas.
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    Augustas Marčiulionis decided to heat to NCAA. Damn, hope it will pan out well for him. Sometimes it gets tricky with playing time, but I think it should be OK. Rytas was safer call for him, his role would be only increasing. Now he should be getting at least 20mpg and active role the ball in his hands to say that it was a correct move. The school will be announced soon, I hope it's Arisona Wildcats.
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    St. Mary's Gaels!



    Oh well. Maybe the priests will force him to actually study something:

    St. Mary's Academics


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hepcat View Post
    St. Mary's Gaels!



    Oh well. Maybe the priests will force him to actually study something:

    St. Mary's Academics

    Well, it's not elite high school when it comes to basketball, but one of top mid-major programs in the country, since 2005 they appeared in March Madness 5 times. So it's not in the middle of no-where as well. Patty Mills and Matthew Dellavedova are best known ballers to represent Saint Marys in the NBA, also our well known Jock Landale played there. So in twitter people make jokes that Marciulionis should have at least some Australian blood if he goes there We'll see how it goes, most importantly that he would get a huge role from the day one pretty much.
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    ESPN Givony's take on Marciulionis' departure. Marciulionis himself evaluates his decision here as well.

    The 19-year old point guard is considered arguably the top European recruit committing to the college route in the class of 2021, possessing significant experience at the international level both against professionals and with his national team.

    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...ts-saint-marys

    And here's an indication on his possible role. He will likely see a lot of time playing with another quality PG. That might be a good situation for NT as well, as I see Marciulionis and Jokubaitis filling the dynamic guard duel in the long term:

    Tommy Kuhse averaged 12.8 points and five assists per game as the Gaels’ starting point guard last season. He will return next season and it’s conceivable Bennett would play Kuhse and Marciulionis together. Bennett often has used lineups with two point guards.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/c...s-16253096.php
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    I'm not the one who would reduce Marciulionis upside after U19WC (not as of yet at least), I still think we have 3 elite PG prospects, but all of them have one thing in common - all three are inconsistent shooters from three. They are all prospects and they may be in very different place shooting wise after 4-5 years, but here's what I like the most about Dominykas Stenionis. He really can shoot and does that with extreme confidence, knocking down some huge step backs and has extreme range. We need shooting at 1. Velicka actually also have great range, but he's too inconsistent. It seems that numbers indicate that Stenionis is consistent at shooting. His 2 NKL seasons suggests 41,4% and 45,2% from three. In U19 he took tons of crazy three, but managed to do that with decent 36.8%.

    Here's his tournament highlights:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvChItzmkJo
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    Velicka will go to Nuggets camp before drafts. He won't be draftet, but that he gets some attention from Pocius and co. means that people still see some NBA potential in him, well he has the body for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svajunas View Post
    Velicka will go to Nuggets camp before drafts. He won't be draftet, but that he gets some attention from Pocius and co. means that people still see some NBA potential in him, well he has the body for it.
    It would be huge blow for our B NT if Velicka would sign some crappy 2 ways contract with NBA team and would be balling in G league, but hopefully it's not happening. Also, I hope he will choose Eurocup or Champions League club. We need Kariniauskas and Velicka to lead our B NT to WC. There won't be Kalnietis and Jokubaitis.
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