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  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    What's the height of CJ Amos? So CJ is playing as wing or perhaps as a combo guard?

    I understand Mason Amos (the elder one) is around 6-foot-7 or maybe 6-foot-8 & plays as a natural 4.
    last post I saw with his height, early this year, he is around 6'1. there was a meme sometime ago sating that his projected height is 6'8 but for now, he looks like a solid guard. so he ends up as 6'8, then we have a potentially giddey-esque player

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    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
      What's the height of CJ Amos? So CJ is playing as wing or perhaps as a combo guard?

      I understand Mason Amos (the elder one) is around 6-foot-7 or maybe 6-foot-8 & plays as a natural 4.
      yes 6' 7 he's a combo forward, Tab wants him to train as wing ( essentially the same way he describes Baltazar, which is essentially in common speak is a 4 that plays in the perimeter on offense) .

      CJ is already around 6' 3" should grow to 6'4 , i see him as Norwood type, defensive specialist with good handles

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      • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
        yes 6' 7 he's a combo forward, Tab wants him to train as wing ( essentially the same way he describes Baltazar, which is essentially in common speak is a 4 that plays in the perimeter on offense) .

        CJ is already around 6' 3" should grow to 6'4 , i see him as Norwood type, defensive specialist with good handles
        What's your opinion on Xavier Chio? Is he future Gilas material?

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        • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
          What's your opinion on Xavier Chio? Is he future Gilas material?
          He reminds me of my son when he was younger , obviously advance skills for his age , as many promising Filipinos are at a young age. It's when Asians stop growing and Western or Africans continue to grow where they begin to struggle to keep up, especially if they are under 6 feet.
          A.lot will depend if he will continue basketball beyond high school. Unlike homegrown, because of the different options in life in western society (remember Jozef who became a lawyer) many drop out of the grind .. Xavier might to.. I've seen it a.lot from.Kids here ..
          Understand the dilemma, of life choices in Australia, as an example my eldest son who works in Melbourne, actually earns more than most PBA stars.

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          • Related to that earlier this week asked my baller son of his assement of Ateneo and Gilas players he trained with.
            He was SJ shooting partner and trained with Keifer , Thirdy a few times.
            In his assement given the reps he can potentially get to level of SJ and Tio (Ateneo guards), it will be a long pecking order however to make the A team.of Ateneo and he would have to pay his dues over 2 or 3 seasons to be elevated. (It's the normal.proces in Atene).
            Just his opinion having played with Nz junior players and comparing them to Areneo , the NZ player are more talented . (Taine Murray for example is already a rotation player for a high major UV div 1 as a freshman). Jordan trained with the best NZ guards and he sees the difference in levels.

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            • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
              He reminds me of my son when he was younger , obviously advance skills for his age , as many promising Filipinos are at a young age. It's when Asians stop growing and Western or Africans continue to grow where they begin to struggle to keep up, especially if they are under 6 feet.
              A.lot will depend if he will continue basketball beyond high school. Unlike homegrown, because of the different options in life in western society (remember Jozef who became a lawyer) many drop out of the grind .. Xavier might to.. I've seen it a.lot from.Kids here ..
              Understand the dilemma, of life choices in Australia, as an example my eldest son who works in Melbourne, actually earns more than most PBA stars.
              Fair enough. Economics is still factor in making career decisions. To most Pinoy ballers basketball is their only way of getting out of poverty. I suppose it's different when you can be paid more in other fields

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              • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                Mason the older one is bigger and practices with the NBL 1 players, (coached by mika Vukona) he was in the original BG pool, (pero i don't know their schedule and tourneys if meron) , it's actually his younger bro CJ that may have more potential, (was in State team that won national championship) CJ has excellent foot speed with great defensive skills (yun yung role nya , defensive stopper and he brings up the ball
                Thanks for the response. Pero CJ is somewhere aroung 6ft3 lang tama po ba? and projected to be 6ft5?

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                • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post
                  last post I saw with his height, early this year, he is around 6'1. there was a meme sometime ago sating that his projected height is 6'8 but for now, he looks like a solid guard. so he ends up as 6'8, then we have a potentially giddey-esque player

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73VkNFrpahs
                  woow a 6ft8 CJ would be very good for our team.

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                  • Originally posted by raileebeast2 View Post
                    woow a 6ft8 CJ would be very good for our team.
                    I'm afraid hindi aabot ng 6-foot-8 si CJ Amos. I'd be happy if he reaches 6-foot-5 to 6-foot-6.
                    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                    • If I had to guess 6'4 or 6'5 will be CJs height

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                      • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                        If I had to guess 6'4 or 6'5 will be CJs height
                        Which I guess would still be fine for as long as he plays as a natural 2-guard or perhaps even as a combo guard like a Paul Lee.
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • How I wish Batang Gilas will be eligible to play again in Fiba youth tournaments.

                          CJ Amos
                          Femi Edu
                          Caelum Harris
                          Basti Reyes
                          Luke Tobias
                          Ben Edu
                          RDO JR

                          And a lot more others I am forgetting will be tested. U18,U16. If only we can participate.( I hope)

                          Dont care much about winning actually. More interested in their games and development.

                          But idk whats happening to Fiba asia youth

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                            With some PBA teams adopting small-ball lineups, to the point that all 5 players are perimeter players, maybe this influence youth team coaches. This system is something that our youth teams can use to develop taller perimeter players, especially at the wings. This ideally is the case when the tallest local is 6'5" or 6'6", and there's no import. No need for a strict 5 out, just give your players license to play the perimeter and switch out.

                            But to be fair, we have been seeing small ball lineups in the collegiate level too. I hope we could see small ball lineups with wings measuring 6'4"-6'5" at the least.
                            Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                            the lebron lopez wing batch is the most intriguing batch that unfortunately we never see them play. lots of wing players on that batch.. insert kai, raven and ibn’s fave player padrigao, we can probably medal the asiad championship u18..
                            This wing batch has been nice to see, honestly. They have not only talent, but size as well. His teammate in Ateneo, Josh Lazaro, at least he still kept wing skills even though he played 5 fot Ateno HS.

                            We're seeing more, like Aldous Torculas, Jordi GDL, Jonnel Policarpio. Nice sight to see. I hope there could be a system to develop taller wings, but 6'4"-6'5", even 6'6" wings is a win for us.

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                            • Originally posted by unitephbasketball View Post
                              At this point, there are more wings with at least his size (6’5-6’6) or close to his size that can contribute more:
                              - Will Navarro - 6’5-6’6
                              - Calvin Oftana - 6’4-6’5
                              - Dwight Ramos - 6’3-6’4
                              - Carl Tamayo - 6’6-6’7

                              and prospects that may be useful in 2-3 years…
                              -Francis Lopez - 6’5-6’6
                              -Mason Amos - 6’6 - 6’7
                              -Caelum Harris - 6’5- 6’6

                              I’d rather focus myself monitoring these players than continuously feel disappointed tracking Kobe’s development.
                              Actually, we have players with upside at the wing position. I do hope they can succeed later on, though.

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                              • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                                Actually, we have players with upside at the wing position. I do hope they can succeed later on, though.
                                Yes. Our Wings are slowly but surely being stacked.

                                And weirdly, looks like the PG spot is the position we lack depth right now. Because after Kiefer, who is next? Not sold on Nietos. Delianos are wings not PG imo. And not yet sure how ready panopio will be.

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