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Originally posted by lurklurk View Postyes sir he's currently a four right now, and i bet that's how he sees himself as well. but that's what im saying, him as a 4 is already a lock. being just 19, he can still develop and maybe move down a position or 2. just wishful thinking, anyway. i mean that's what i will do if i were him.
At 6'7, he is already a go at the 4-spot. Can be a 3 in short stretches but that's it.Attack
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Would proper training (high-tech or advanced ones, just like what Kai has been getting in the US a couple of months now) & hard work be enough for Tamayo to be converted to a legit small forward?
Lets face it, Tamayo wasn't born athletic & quick-footed. Proper training & hard work would enhance such weaknesses but they do have limits."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostWould proper training (high-tech or advanced ones, just like what Kai has been getting in the US a couple of months now) & hard work be enough for Tamayo to be converted to a legit small forward?
Lets face it, Tamayo wasn't born athletic & quick-footed. Proper training & hard work would enhance such weaknesses but they do have limits.Attack
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Originally posted by lurklurk View Postman, i'd wish abueva's energy, motor and balls on all filipino players. he is topnotch.
Originally posted by ja.he View PostI will be happy if Carl can surpass the feat RDO. We all know RDO fit in our national team. Being a bigger RDO is not bad.
Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View PostLast edited by Alex07; 07-06-2020, 06:46 AM."How small ball works: Tall Skilled beats small skilled every time,but small skilled beats tall stiff every time" - Kevin McHale
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Originally posted by ja.he View PostI will be happy if Carl can surpass the feat RDO. We all know RDO fit in our national team. Being a bigger RDO is not bad.
I think its no brainer that a 6-foot-7 version of RDO would be good enough for Gilas. Specially since Tamayo is projected to be the reliever of AJ Edu at the "four" spot. I say we just leave the 3-spot to Kobe Paras, Calvin Oftana, Rayray Parks & Dwight Ramos (who can play both the 2 & 3 spots)."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by lurklurk View Postcarl tamayo = dennis espino with 3-point shot?
i remember espino was already money on 20-foot jumpers.
The Japanese could attest to that"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Espino also had excellent post-up moves, was a good interior defender & rebounder.
You're right, Espino had a pretty decent medium-range jumper. 15 to 19 feet open shots were money for him during his prime. I'll rate Espino higher than Jun Limpot, Eric Menk & Danny Ildefonso as among the big men that played for the Phi team during that era."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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I think we are in the era of taller is somewhat more important than talent.
For ex. Thirdy Ravena and Dave Ildefonso. Obviously Thirdy(the finals MVP) is the better player.
But for Fiba matchups, you would want to develop Dave(6'5) than Thirdy(6'1) right? Just because of the height.
As for Carl Tamayo, We just wanted him to be a Taller Version of RDO. Remember Rdo Can play the 3 in spurts
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Being an RDO clone is harder than we initially thought. RDO is just a do-it-all forward and he can shoot-dribble- and slash with very high reliability. He won't turn the ball over like Japeth would or shoot air balls (at least not consistent air balls) and he will not slash with no exit once stopped.
Rosario is not it chief and I don't think Tamayo is it either...yet. Is he even trying to pattern his game to RDO? I hope so.
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"How small ball works: Tall Skilled beats small skilled every time,but small skilled beats tall stiff every time" - Kevin McHale
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