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Originally posted by sajubeads View PostWell we won only against Japan also since we have Naturalized player...After 2002 Team, we have not won naman against Japan without a Naturalized player....That's from 2006(since we suspended in 2005) to 2010 prior to the arrival of Douthit...
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Originally posted by Jomar09 View PostI think we won against Japan in 2009, all Filipino. It's the Yeng-coached team, prior to Toro's Gilas 1.0, the time when Cyrus Baguio spearheaded the team's offense. We beat them 2011 (Gilas 1.0), then 2013 (Gilas 2.0 - Chot's team) by comfortable margins. 2013 Japan team has a an american NP, by the way (JR Sakuragi).
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Regarding the Phi vs. Japan rivalry in Asian basketball, I think we have Japan's numbers. Meaning we have beaten Japan more than they have beaten us. But I honestly think that, we have never enjoyed significant edge over Japan all these years. It has always been a close game between RP & Japan for the last 30 years or so."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by Jomar09 View PostI think we won against Japan in 2009, all Filipino. It's the Yeng-coached team, prior to Toro's Gilas 1.0, the time when Cyrus Baguio spearheaded the team's offense. We beat them 2011 (Gilas 1.0), then 2013 (Gilas 2.0 - Chot's team) by comfortable margins. 2013 Japan team has a an american NP, by the way (JR Sakuragi)."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by ja.he View PostWe won naman over Japan in 2009 under Yeng with Asi, Pennisi, Thoss, Japeth and Kerby as our bigs.
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Originally posted by sajubeads View PostWell we won only against Japan also since we have Naturalized player...After 2002 Team, we have not won naman against Japan without a Naturalized player....That's from 2006(since we suspended in 2005) to 2010 prior to the arrival of Douthit...
For a team with 4 nba/g-league players and coached by a respected foreign coach, being second to the last in fiba 2019 is a major major let down
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Originally posted by deku_midoriya View PostLast time a japanese nt beat ph was in 1994. Patrimonio missing a ft. Their universiade team beat chots team in the jones cup 2007. That was the last time they beat ph. Ph also played without NP and they also played against ph with NP.
For a team with 4 nba/g-league players and coached by a respected foreign coach, being second to the last in fiba 2019 is a major major let down
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Originally posted by allmight View PostLike I said on this thread, the PBA restrictions on fil-ams and nat players are borderline racist. No one here is defending that. You're preaching to the choir here.NBTC- Team New Zealand - Camp David: vision "To provide a basketball Pathway for Filipino Kids in NZ while building men of character and leadership. I can do all things ...
https://www.facebook.com/teamNZBasketball/
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Originally posted by sajubeads View PostWell th the GbLeague and NBA players dont regularly play for them.In fact they were 0-4 in the first two windows as they were playing IRA Brown as their NP, but Japannwon their last 8 window games I think finishing 8-4 overall and overtaking the Philippines. Lucky for us that when we played them in the initial round wala sina Rui, Watanabe and Fazekas otherwise itbwoupd have been an different story
On paper, jp much stronger. But paper strength is just that, otherwise jp wouldve placed higher in worldcup
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Well to be fair of Japan's WC results, all real Asian teams didn't do well as usual, Japan beat Iran and had a decent game vs Turkey. So they were actually much more competitive than the Philippines, which was litterally laughable embarrassingNBTC- Team New Zealand - Camp David: vision "To provide a basketball Pathway for Filipino Kids in NZ while building men of character and leadership. I can do all things ...
https://www.facebook.com/teamNZBasketball/
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Originally posted by analyzed View PostWell to be fair of Japan's WC results, all real Asian teams didn't do well as usual, Japan beat Iran and had a decent game vs Turkey. So they were actually much more competitive than the Philippines, which was litterally laughable embarrassing
Japan underperformed big time. No way to sugar coat that
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Originally posted by sajubeads View PostWell th the GbLeague and NBA players dont regularly play for them.In fact they were 0-4 in the first two windows as they were playing IRA Brown as their NP, but Japannwon their last 8 window games I think finishing 8-4 overall and overtaking the Philippines. Lucky for us that when we played them in the initial round wala sina Rui, Watanabe and Fazekas otherwise itbwoupd have been an different story
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostOnly in 2013 we beat Japan by a comfortable margin. In 2011, it was a close game (if I remember it right). And if I remember it right, Japan had no naturalized player in 2011 Asian Championship. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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