Thirdy Ravena San-En Neophoenix

[paulrenzo]

october is the start of 2020-2021 season..

https://www.japan-guide.com/news/alerts.html

Thirdy's first game will supposedly happen on October 3.

[Silent Killer]

Thirdy's first game will supposedly happen on October 3.

against togashi’s chiba jets..

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/thirdy-ravena-debuts-for-neophoenix-as-they-face-off-against-chiba-jets-in-b-league-season-opener-a2437-20200713

[lurklurk]

We've seen thirdy improve his game year after year. Next phase in his development is fully transitioning to a combo guard--mostly playing the 2 spot with a little bit of backup PG duties.

With his current trend in development, do you guys think he will surpass CJ perez come 2023?

[mathematicianrcg]

We've seen thirdy improve his game year after year. Next phase in his development is fully transitioning to a combo guard--mostly playing the 2 spot with a little bit of backup PG duties.

With his current trend in development, do you guys think he will surpass CJ perez come 2023?

Hmmm. Maybe but remains to be seen.

I think CJ is still ahead of Thirdy.

Before 2023, a lot of event/happenings can happen. Injuries, blossom career, being in prime, etc.

[unstopaball12]

We've seen thirdy improve his game year after year. Next phase in his development is fully transitioning to a combo guard--mostly playing the 2 spot with a little bit of backup PG duties.

With his current trend in development, do you guys think he will surpass CJ perez come 2023?

Yes! Thirdy is transitioning to a natural guard position, also helps he has guidance and mentors in kiefer and tab. If he plays well in Japan, it could open up doors in NBL or the g league, as money seems not to be an issue for the Ravenas.

Since CJ will be stuck in the pba and Ravena learning playing internationally and with his current projection, yes he can be much better than CJ in 2023.

[Alex07]

It can work the other way around, thirdy can scout them too

i agree. Thirdy can ask for videos which our coaches could study.

Yes! Thirdy is transitioning to a natural guard position, also helps he has guidance and mentors in kiefer and tab. If he plays well in Japan, it could open up doors in NBL or the g league, as money seems not to be an issue for the Ravenas.

Since CJ will be stuck in the pba and Ravena learning playing internationally and with his current projection, yes he can be much better than CJ in 2023.

CJ I think can transition in playing the point guard position, at this moment CJ is ahead of Thirdy on those terms.However, Thirdy may also acquire the ball handling skill and other skills that would help him transition in playing the point guard position. Quickness, I would say CJ is quicker than Thirdy but Thridy has more hops and has more strength than CJ. They need to excel both and improve their on ball defense.

[Silent Killer]

for those suggesting the likes of malonzo, CS should play in B-league

https://www.bleague.jp/files/user/news/pdf/20200714_B.LEAGUE%202020-21%20season%20regulation.pdf

[Alex07]

for those suggesting the likes of malonzo, CS should play in B-league

https://www.bleague.jp/files/user/ne...regulation.pdf

please translate or summarize

[Money]

Hmmm. Maybe but remains to be seen.

I think CJ is still ahead of Thirdy.

Before 2023, a lot of event/happenings can happen. Injuries, blossom career, being in prime, etc.

Thirdy if im not mistaken was a 3 - 4 nung high school. even in Ateneo. and CJ was already a 2 - 3 nung college since baste days. so the development of Thirdy for me medyo mabagal pa. hope he could be a strong 2 guard or 1 sa B League.

[allan_373]

Advantages and Dis-advantages ng Paglalaro ni Thirdy sa Japan

https://youtu.be/6g1Xtw3FJUQ

[qwertyz]

Thirdy if im not mistaken was a 3 - 4 nung high school. even in Ateneo. and CJ was already a 2 - 3 nung college since baste days. so the development of Thirdy for me medyo mabagal pa. hope he could be a strong 2 guard or 1 sa B League.

Thirdy even played some minutes at the 5 to relieve Escaler and Big Mike. But his main playing position was the 4 cause he played with Aaron Black who was the same height as him but had better handles. So Aaron played the 3.

[interxavierxxx]

Assuming Thirdy does well in Japan, any chance he can make it to the CBA?

Lots of high-level talent playing in that league including Kuya Andray.

[unstopaball12]

Assuming Thirdy does well in Japan, any chance he can make it to the CBA?

Lots of high-level talent playing in that league including Kuya Andray.

Can be, options will be limitless for him. Pba will be shaking as people in uaap will be following what he is doing(rivero, JGDL, others)

[unstopaball12]

i agree. Thirdy can ask for videos which our coaches could study.



CJ I think can transition in playing the point guard position, at this moment CJ is ahead of Thirdy on those terms.However, Thirdy may also acquire the ball handling skill and other skills that would help him transition in playing the point guard position. Quickness, I would say CJ is quicker than Thirdy but Thridy has more hops and has more strength than CJ. They need to excel both and improve their on ball defense.

That's the thing, he can play the point, but in the pba he is forced to play the 2 or 3 due to so many point guards in their roster.

[Silent Killer]

please translate or summarize

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ทางลีกญี่ปุ่น B.League ได้มีการอธิบายเพิ่มเติม เกี่ยวกับเงื่อนไขคุณสมบัติของผู้เล่น Asian Import โดยขยายความเข้าใจเพิ่มเติมในส่วนของผู้เล่นที่ถือหล ายสัญชาติ
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ตอนแรกที่ประกาศมา ส่วนใหญ่แล้วที่เข้าใจกันคือ ผู้เล่นที่มีหลายสัญชาติ หรือ ผู้เฃ่นที่โอนสัญชาติ จะไม่สามารถรับเป็นผู้เล่น Asian Import ใน B.League ได้
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แต่การขยายความเพิ่มเติมครั้งนี้ของ B.League คือ ผู้เล่นที่ถือมากกว่าสองสัญชาติ หรือ แม้แต่ผู้เล่นที่โอนสัญชาติ สามารถนับเป็นผู้เล่น Asian Import ได้... แต่สัญชาติที่ถือ หรือ สัญชาติก่อนโอนนั้น ต้องเป็นสัญชาติจากประเทศ 5 ประเทศดังนี้คือ จีน, เกาหลี, ฟิลิปปินส์, ไต้หวัน, และ อินโดนีเซีย
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แปลกันคร่าวๆ ตามที่เข้าใจ ที่อาจจะพอเห็นภาพคือ ลูกครึ่งที่ถือสัญชาติอย่าง สัญชาติสหรัฐฯ ไม่สามารถเป็นผู้เล่น Asian Import ได้
อย่าง Andray Blatche ที่โอนสัญชาติเป็นฟิลิปปินส์ ก็ไม่สามารถเป็น Asian Import ได้ เพราะถือสัญชาติอเมริกันอยู่ด้วย และ อย่าง Christian Standhardinger ก็ (ไม่น่า) จะสามารถเล่นเป็น Asian Import ได้เช่นเดียวกัน เพราะ มีสัญชาติเยอรมันอนู่ด้วย ประมาณนี้
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ส่วนตัวอย่างของผู้เล่นที่เข้าข่าย ก็อย่าง Biboy Engiuo ที่มีสัญชาติฟิลิปปินส์ และ อินโดนีเซีย ซึ่งอยู่ในรายชื่อ 5 ประเทศที่ B.League อนุญาต
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ส่วนตัวแล้วก็ถือว่าน่าเสียดายนิดๆ นะ เพราะก็เสียโอกาสกับตัวผู้เล่นฝีมือน่าสนใจหลาย ๆ คน แต่ก็เข้าใจแนวทางของ B.League ส่วนหนึ่ง ในความตั้งใจที่จะร่วมพัฒนานักกีฬาจากภูมิภาคเอเชียด ังเดิมจริงๆ
แต่ในทางเดียวกัน ก็ไม่รู้ว่าเงื่อนไขมันงงๆ อยู่รึเปล่า อย่างถ้านักกีฬาที่เป็นลูกครึ่ง ตั้งใจที่จะไม่ยื่นเอกสารหลักฐานการถือสัญชาตินอกเหน ือ 5 สัญชาติที่ว่า แล้วตีมึนถือสัญชาติเดียวไปเลย ทาง B.League จะมองเป็นยังไงบ้าง
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...แต่ท้ายสุดแล้ว คิดไปก็เท่านั้น สำหรับแฟนบาสไทยอย่างเราๆ เพราะ ไม่มีในรายชื่อ 5 ประเทศที่มีโอกาสเข้าร่วมอยู่ดี (ยังน้อยใจอยู่นะโว้ย)
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The B.LEAGUE（Japan Professional Basketball League） has further explained the eligibility conditions for players who can play as Asian Import in this upcoming season.
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When the quota was first announced, it was lightly mentioned that players with dual nationalities and naturalized players would not be able to be considered as Asian Imports.
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However, the league has come out to explain a bit more in detail that players with dual nationalities and naturalized players CAN play as Asian Imports if the their nationalities are of the 5 allowed countries: China, Korea, the Philippines, Chinese Taipei, and Indonesia.
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As an example (to my understanding), players like Andray Blatche (Philippines nationality via naturalization) cannot be considered as an Asian Import in the B.League due to his US nationality. At the same time, players like Christian Standhardinger (dual nationality) cannot be considered as an Asian Import in the B.League due to his German nationality (not considered in the 5 allowed countries).
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For an example of players who CAN play as an Asian Import in the B.League with dual nationality (or as a naturalized player) is Biboy Engiuo who is Filipino and Indonesian (both nationalities are of the allowed 5 countries).
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I'm personally a bit disappointed about this, since it keeps out some talented players from consideration. However, I do understand where this B.League ruling is coming from, as an attempt to cooperate in developing locally groomed players in Asia.
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Source: https://www.bleague.jp/files/user/ne...regulation.pdf

https://basketballking.jp/news/japan...l?cx_cat=page1