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    Unbelievable!
    Somehow, Oly has a psychological advantage over CSKA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markkanen View Post
    Today a female CSKA team would beat this Oly team - two guards (Koniaris and Baldwin) and two forwards (Papanikolau and Paul). And they lost by 21-4 in third quarter, this is shame for them, and for euroleague. Worst game ever.
    I disagree, worst game was Zalgiris-Oly where Zalgiris kept lucking into impossible shots. Watching games decided purely by luck is very boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markkanen View Post
    Today a female CSKA team would beat this Oly team - two guards (Koniaris and Baldwin) and two forwards (Papanikolau and Paul). And they lost by 21-4 in third quarter, this is shame for them, and for euroleague. Worst game ever.
    EL should be ashamed because...CSKA under-performed heavily?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adon View Post
    EL should be ashamed because...CSKA under-performed heavily?
    I don't think this is what markkanen is referring to but these kind of results are much more likely in these double game weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adon View Post
    Unbelievable!
    Somehow, Oly has a psychological advantage over CSKA.
    It's just no fun to play without VSpan and Print!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iraz View Post
    It's just no fun to play without VSpan and Print!
    With or without them the result is the same though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz View Post
    I don't think this is what markkanen is referring to but these kind of results are much more likely in these double game weeks.
    Of course NBA teams play 3-4 a week with 48 minute games so not going to feel sorry for these teams. More games should also mean more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markkanen View Post
    Same goes for Oly, and they played without three main players, with rotation:

    Baldwin, Koniaris
    Paul
    Papanikolau
    Vezenkov, Rubbit
    Milutinov, Ellis

    CSKA has all their players.
    I think you are forgetting CSKAs probably best all around player is out.
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    With more games you tend to get more games whose results are surprising/abnormal. It's normal. That being said, of course I didn't expect CSKA to lose
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    When the summer time and NT games come everyone complains about FIBA and their second tier refs.
    These refs in EL are supposed to be good ones.
    But round after round the number of their bad mistakes increases.
    What is fhe difference between bad refs doing a bad job and good refs doing a bad job?
    Only that the supposedly good refs are overpaid and overrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adon View Post
    With or without them the result is the same though
    With them we at least have motivation to play

    Speaking seriously, of course this awful defeat was absolutely unexpected, even for the players themselves. But understandable, for some extent. After a difficult and importante game with Efes just the other day it may be difficult to find concentration and passion in a game that means nothing.
    Though the game was just disastrous, almost impossible to watch. I hope I'll manage to forget it asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncjazz View Post
    Of course NBA teams play 3-4 a week with 48 minute games so not going to feel sorry for these teams. More games should also mean more money.
    Asbolutely. But I don't think teams view every game as a must-win anymore, like they did in older formats of this competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz View Post
    Asbolutely. But I don't think teams view every game as a must-win anymore, like they did in older formats of this competition.
    Even fans are beginning to change their attitude as far as I observe. And I think it may be for the best. Me personally - some 4 - 5 year ago, even 3, I would have been very upset and angry with the team for such a limp defeat. But today I don't care much, it's an unfortunate slip, nothing more. What really matters on this stage is the final standings. And as far as we are 4th - 5th, then I'm ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz View Post
    Asbolutely. But I don't think teams view every game as a must-win anymore, like they did in older formats of this competition.
    Yes, unfortunately it's true. But, if we had PO, as NBA has, and not f4 system, then that game would matter for CSKA, and that strange results would be much rarer. I mean, how you could lose against a team with Koniaris, Baldwin, Paul and Papanikolau - four players, three positions. Even we trashed that Oly team in Kaunas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Efesdxb View Post
    We won the game but this wrong call, which ended up with 4 points for Efes when we were only leading by 2 (78-76), helped us a lot.
    On the other hand I have to give credit to Ataman for two decisions made:
    1. Benched Micic despite he scored 22 pts and gave space for Larkin to play isolation.
    2. Benched Pleiss he was on 15 pts, to match Hayes - Leday duo... Moerman got three crucial off rebound last quarter.
    Larkin player out of this planet. It was 28:36 when he made his first field goal. Then he scored another 19 pts during last 11 mins.
    I re-watched the game, properly. this an excellent summary.

    Singleton call was wrong, and the technical of course (+4 pts), but at that point I think we'd have won the game regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmercer80 View Post
    Only laziness can explain these CSKA games, absolutely unacceptable. Today a female team would have taken more defensive rebounds committing also less turnovers.
    If James is leading rebounder it says all.
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    I looked at how many away games maccabi has won,

    they have 15 wins, but only 4 of them was away games.

    Even we won more away games than maccabi did (we won 5 away games)

    maccabi is definitely not successful at away games, but you would never know, Wilbekin's situation is important. He scored 20 pts and 19 pts at Baskonia away and Olympiacos away games, and 15 pts at Alba away game, he is a very important player for maccabi at away games.
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    Fener current improvement is linked just with Vesely comeback.As I said many times we have top core in De Colo, Datome and Vesely. Vesely is hart and soul of this team. Bad news is that rest of team is more or less mediocre.

    Sloukas still kills us with his ball raping and that will never change, Nunnally isn't factor as he used to be(at last Obra gave him role he deserves), williams is clown(regardless of his yesterday performace) he isn't guy who should take more then two shoots for 3 per game.. Kalinic-'glue guy' can't glue himself with the ball..

    I like Thomas btw, though he is awful finisher except dunks, I like his character. He doesn't try to be hero like williams and he knows his limits.

    I think we will reach play off and then it's up to Obra how he will use players. I think Westerman should slowly take bigger role and Sloukas must decline in his sick ambition to be so called leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markkanen View Post
    Today a female CSKA team would beat this Oly team - two guards (Koniaris and Baldwin) and two forwards (Papanikolau and Paul). And they lost by 21-4 in third quarter, this is shame for them, and for euroleague. Worst game ever.
    Losses happen dude, chill

    Oly's roster might not as fancy as CSKA's but they are still pro ballers and at the highest level these things happen. Not the first time, not the last.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paspalj View Post
    Losses happen dude, chill

    Oly's roster might not as fancy as CSKA's but they are still pro ballers and at the highest level these things happen. Not the first time, not the last.
    I won't be surprised if now - without Spanulis and with Bartzokas - Oly will play much better.

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