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    Quote Originally Posted by R1ou View Post
    Charalampopoulos is injured and Koniaris isn't supposed to be a difference maker.

    Anyways the way this Oly team was built by Blatt is getting exposed by everyone defensively this season.
    I know I know. Blatt was supposed to prepare Oly for after Spanoulis time but he failed hard. It doesnt work with Oly anymore but they dont have the players either. It looks like Mantzaris is the only option with a american guard until nikolaidis gets ready which will take some years.

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    Zalgiris becomes Oly's nemesis
    Good.

    We are really really close to top 8 now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yessuz View Post
    Zalgiris becomes Oly's nemesis
    Good.

    We are really really close to top 8 now.
    Only 8-3 close.

    After two days likely 8-2.

    And why nemesis, Zalgiris lost to OLY last round.

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    saras,rivers and lekavicius doing what they know better than anything. making love to the reds

    MAKE LOVE,NOT WAR
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    its funny that there are still red sheep blaming blatt for the roster. kemzura gave an interview saying that they could not sign the players they wanted cause of the bad economic situation in the team and that the players were not even getting in talks with the team due to the uncertainty,but some people still chewing whatever the paid journalists write about in greek sites and twitter. or to be more fair,what they are forced to write to get fans attention away from the real responsibles for that funny team they built this season,which is none other than their 2 presidents,the ones who said they will get great players like sloukas,teodosic,delaney (which were converted to cherry and baldwin) to reach the f4. maybe there was a misunderstaning and what they meant was the final 4 spots of the table,which is quite possible right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    The last game will be the toughest one also because efes will rest some guys for sure.

    How much does a win brings you in the rs? 400k euros if i am not mistaken?
    Isn't going all the way just 1m euros? I don't think you'd get much by winning the RS.

    There are just two things Ataman can do vs Fener (Assuming that Fener will need this game). There is no middle ground when it comes to him.

    1) He goes for a complete kill of Fener.
    2) He "rests" his players just to make "that" statement at the end of the game.

    I think he won't rest anyone and will just try to kill Fener.
    poof

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deschain View Post
    Isn't going all the way just 1m euros? I don't think you'd get much by winning the RS.

    There are just two things Ataman can do vs Fener (Assuming that Fener will need this game). There is no middle ground when it comes to him.

    1) He goes for a complete kill of Fener.
    2) He "rests" his players just to make "that" statement at the end of the game.

    I think he won't rest anyone and will just try to kill Fener.
    Yeah my bad. Its not 400k but 40k Xd

    And Ataman ticks a bit differently. He surely wants to humiliate Fener in any case but he is also very patriotic. I am sure hell help Fener if its needed. A final four final between two turkish teams would be every turks dream and considering how weak real is i would choose Real over Efes if i was Fenerbahce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deschain View Post
    Isn't going all the way just 1m euros? I don't think you'd get much by winning the RS.

    There are just two things Ataman can do vs Fener (Assuming that Fener will need this game). There is no middle ground when it comes to him.

    1) He goes for a complete kill of Fener.
    2) He "rests" his players just to make "that" statement at the end of the game.

    I think he won't rest anyone and will just try to kill Fener.
    efes is lucky that we kicked pedoulakis out. he was the only one that easily destroyed your team this season,even with larkin scoring 30. the only away loss for efes this season

    btw ataman is the only coach in europe that wont rest anyone even if he has nothing to get from it. especially against fener. especially if fener needs to win to qualify for the playoffs. he has not forgotten what they stole from him when he was in galatasaray and of course he has not forgotten their ridiculous fans last season in the turkish league finals. on the other hand even if he rests players,i think that backup lineup for efes is still better than fener's first team,so even playing without a couple of players,efes would still be the favorite to tin the game
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    Ataman is very patriotic and his dream is to play Fener in the final? :-) Wow. What a patriotic act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katastroika View Post
    Ataman is very patriotic and his dream is to play Fener in the final? :-) Wow. What a patriotic act.
    Helping another turkish team is one

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    Berlin carving up Milan's defense all day long...

    Does Milan have another 4th quarter miracle in them or what ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deschain View Post
    Not to sound overconfident but Efes winning all its remaining games is quite a possibility now.
    now that you have said it, watch out for Zalgiris tomorrow and them winning in Istanbul.
    all the elements are there, Efes winning against CSKA after 14 straight defeats.
    Ataman defeating Itoudis for the first time ever.
    great time to enter the game with lower intensity then needed.
    and once you do enter it like that it's hard to crawl out of it.
    no one expects Zalgiris to win even if they are the second best in form team currently coming out from a confidence boosting easy win plus Jasikevicius has been beating Ataman in Istanbul last two seasons.
    I would say Zalgiris has pretty solid chances of beating Efes tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picek View Post
    now that you have said it, watch out for Zalgiris tomorrow and them winning in Istanbul.
    all the elements are there, Efes winning against CSKA after 14 straight defeats.
    Ataman defeating Itoudis for the first time ever.
    great time to enter the game with lower intensity then needed.
    and once you do enter it like that it's hard to crawl out of it.
    no one expects Zalgiris to win even if they are the second best in form team currently coming out from a confidence boosting easy win plus Jasikevicius has been beating Ataman in Istanbul last two seasons.
    I would say Zalgiris has pretty solid chances of beating Efes tomorrow.
    Totally agree...
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    Nik Stauskas shows his inner JR Smith.. @2:45

    To be fair, the score table took some extra seconds to turn the score to 69-69. I wonder whether it was the same with the score table in the arena. Still, this would not help Nik to think of any kind of legitimate excuses


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    Quote Originally Posted by saras View Post
    efes is lucky that we kicked pedoulakis out. he was the only one that easily destroyed your team this season,even with larkin scoring 30. the only away loss for efes this season
    This is why I said, when Efes beat Barça, that Efes still needed to beat PAO at OAKA.
    I don't think there is anything magical about OAKA but it is definitely a very tough place to play at, particularly for Turkish teams and Ataman.
    If you're losing even to a mediocre PAO (and to a mediocre OLY at SEF for that matter), that shows that you're not mentally ready for the challenges to come.
    I'm not saying that PAO is mediocre this year but the way Efes lost that game with Micic breaking down completely, was not a pleasant precursor for the remainder of the season.

    But after seening Efes vs Madrid and CSKA I can say that my worries are alleviated to an extent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Picek View Post
    now that you have said it, watch out for Zalgiris tomorrow and them winning in Istanbul.
    all the elements are there, Efes winning against CSKA after 14 straight defeats.
    Ataman defeating Itoudis for the first time ever.
    great time to enter the game with lower intensity then needed.
    and once you do enter it like that it's hard to crawl out of it.
    no one expects Zalgiris to win even if they are the second best in form team currently coming out from a confidence boosting easy win plus Jasikevicius has been beating Ataman in Istanbul last two seasons.
    I would say Zalgiris has pretty solid chances of beating Efes tomorrow.
    I agree that Zalgiris has a considerable chance tomorrow.
    Playing vs CSKA and vs Zalgiris are two different things, I'd like to see Efes vs a motivated organized opposition. (Not saying that CSKA isn't)
    Micic is probably going to have a bad game, as he almost always does in the second game of double weeks.

    Yet, I believe the talent gap is too much and even if Micic plays catastrophically, Efes still has the personnel to match a challenge from Zalgiris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levenspiel View Post
    yeah i was thinking a win would be great exactly for this reason. He'd have developed a complex soon otherwise.
    Ataman and developing a complex? Nah, there's no way such a thing would happen.

    Congrats to Efes, I wasn't able to see the second half but it looks like the 1st seed is locked right now
    Dilimde şarkıların gündüz gece
    Deli gibi aşığız Fenerbahçe
    Bu dünyayı yakarız senin için
    Şampiyonluk gelince

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    without diba-woulters, mta became individual wil/(and rarely dorsey)show, offensively
    so i can say mta-kimki is really a wil-shved challenge
    not a great compliment to sfairo,who was guilthy of jenuary adds, not asking for better players, and who actually is not searching for a b/c/d offensive plans but wilbekin show
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaliaBalta View Post
    Nik Stauskas shows his inner JR Smith.. @2:45

    To be fair, the score table took some extra seconds to turn the score to 69-69. I wonder whether it was the same with the score table in the arena. Still, this would not help Nik to think of any kind of legitimate excuses

    it reminded me melli absurd faulth in milan-mta playoffs series, that turned a domintaed match by milano giving us an irration victory and factually the f4.

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    The only problem I saw in Efes game last night was rebound and rim protection. Moerman was awful and at least 3 or 4 offensive rebounds were over him.
    Beaubois is the worst defender in Efes and it was disgusting watching his defense on James shoot last second of first half. With arms lowered on one of the best clutch shooters in EL

    On the other side Balbay played rock hard defense at the end on the same player and that's what his role needs to be.

    One more notice on Balbay.. to be honest he has talent for ball handling and explosiveness during penetration, but finishing is the problem. the easiest layups he misses at the end. He must work on it.
    Last edited by janketa; 02-05-2020 at 10:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    And Ataman ticks a bit differently. He surely wants to humiliate Fener in any case but he is also very patriotic. I am sure hell help Fener if its needed. A final four final between two turkish teams would be every turks dream and considering how weak real is i would choose Real over Efes if i was Fenerbahce.
    man, you broke interbasket yesterday with this comment. Why do you make such strange statements?
    Ataman does not care about helping Fener, I guarantee you that. He is not that patriotic . that game might be a formality by then for both sides anyway.
    and the Real bit is at least funny.
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