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    Quote Originally Posted by sajubeads View Post
    I should say stupid coaching by Caloy...Treating this game as if it's a tune up game, keep experimenting until the third quarter...Could have blown away Alaska had he rotated his players properly..Yap could still contribute but Caloy giving more time to his rookies...I think Rivero and Tolentino though are not yet ready...Sayang yung minutes nila had it been given to veterans ROS could have taken the life out of Alaska..
    Alaska escapes with a 1pt win, I think in the long run the lineup experimenting would be beneficial for ROS' young players, experience wise
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    Maybe ROS is balancing the minutes of their players. They almost won even if they played their hilaw rookies.

    Alaska cannot do the same. Manuel and Casio might be gassed come playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenarcher View Post
    Breakout game for Onwubere and Wong. What a 4th quarter by both teams.

    ROS is the PBA's Heat in terms of finding hidden gems in the draft.

    James Yap should retire, ROS does not need him anymore.
    I think Yap is aiming for the top 10 scoring list of all time. But at this pace of 5 points a game I dont know when he’ll catch Cordinera. Yap should request a trade back to magnolia then retire and preserve his legacy. But that also goes with a lot of PBA vets. Mamaril, Asi, Caguioa etc.

    Yap has to have a good first quarter in order for him to play longer minutes. Btw RoS played good. Experimenting lineups yet losing just by 1 point off of a point blank miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenarcher View Post
    Breakout game for Onwubere and Wong. What a 4th quarter by both teams.

    ROS is the PBA's Heat in terms of finding hidden gems in the draft.

    James Yap should retire, ROS does not need him anymore.
    Not really Wong's breakout game but one of my hotter takes is Id rather have Wong than Matt Nieto.

    EDIT: Also Wong's performance the past two games is a great example as why more college players should go pro early

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertyz View Post
    I think Yap is aiming for the top 10 scoring list of all time. But at this pace of 5 points a game I dont know when he’ll catch Cordinera. Yap should request a trade back to magnolia then retire and preserve his legacy. But that also goes with a lot of PBA vets. Mamaril, Asi, Caguioa etc.

    Yap has to have a good first quarter in order for him to play longer minutes. Btw RoS played good. Experimenting lineups yet losing just by 1 point off of a point blank miss.
    It's still a loss though..Point is RoS has less margin of error as they as not really a powerhouse team...Keep losing due to experimentation or erratic sub patterns will haunt Caloy later...The minutes given to Tolentino and Rivero could have been given to Yap...Ok lang mag experiment or to give minutes to rookies but not the extent of destroying the rhythm of your players through stupid sub pattern. And using all your 15 players...You could rest your players and give experience to your rookies by either setting out one of your Stars in some of the games...Like TNT or NBA teams are doing... Pero yung rotate ka ng rotate and playing Rivero late in the 3rd is an insult to the fans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikatrix View Post
    Not really Wong's breakout game but one of my hotter takes is Id rather have Wong than Matt Nieto.

    EDIT: Also Wong's performance the past two games is a great example as why more college players should go pro early
    Wong cant make it to the Cadets coz he is ineligible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodbi View Post
    Seriously, PBA should be adapting the 2-world import format right now and for good. With that setup, teams can lend their Gilas representatives to SBP on Qualifying windows without second thought, as there would be 2 imports to pick-up the slack. After all, it is what most PBA coaches prefer - to make plays on offense anchored by imports
    Agreed. And I recommended that one has no height limit, and the other has a 6'5" height limit, so that our bigs and coaches will be forced to adjust to different imports that play their position.

    But, if an import has the size and skillset of say, Justin Brownlee, and is played as a 4, where he'll be a mismatch, that can also teach our 6'6"-6'8" bigs the recommended play style for guys their size.

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    Barkley ebona is turning 23 next month. Did he played with Mac Belo in his first season in the UAAP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulLee3 View Post
    Barkley ebona is turning 23 next month. Did he played with Mac Belo in his first season in the UAAP?
    I think he did play with Belo in the UAAP.

    He's been really good for Alaska. Almost immediate impact. He has a touch of versatility to him. I saw him capably switch outside, and he can handle the ball some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulLee3 View Post
    Barkley ebona is turning 23 next month. Did he played with Mac Belo in his first season in the UAAP?
    kinda weird to see a 23 year old rookie, nasanay na ko sa 25-26 yr old rookies,

    to answer your question, they were part of the 2015 FEU Tamaraws who won the UAAP Championship against UST (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_F...asketball_team), Ebona was a rookie that season.

    the team was also composed of Pogoy, Tolomia, Raymar Jose and Escoto
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenarcher View Post
    Breakout game for Onwubere and Wong. What a 4th quarter by both teams.

    ROS is the PBA's Heat in terms of finding hidden gems in the draft.

    James Yap should retire, ROS does not need him anymore.
    Denver Nuggets is more realistic.. most of their players are unheralded and some of them are 2nd rounder.. Even Belga was pick in early 2nd round..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
    yes. load management..
    Good Decision for TNT.. they need their key players some extended rest.. they should rest Erram and Pogoy in some of their games because they are their biggest asset especially against Ginebra.. He had hurt his foot in last game, Fortunately it was minor and still can play.. They should reserve their energy come playoff time..

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    What happened to Maurice Shaw already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert0326 View Post
    He has to do that because his boss (Al Chua) are rampant against Tab.. But he also understands Tab statements.. I think he also to do that change his style because he knows his former old style will not win any battle against Dickel/Tab's modern style basketball (He lost to Dickel last year's semis match).. He also find tips from his friend Erik Spoelstra how to learn modern style basketball..
    Well, our local coaches could at least follow Cone's example. So far, Cone's tweaks have been working. He plays a somewhat positionless system, as does Topex.

    Maybe Dickel, Cone, and maybe Topex will really force the other coaches to adjust and play a system offense. I don't know why most aren't doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unstopaball12 View Post
    What happened to Maurice Shaw already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sajubeads View Post
    BELO has bulked up also that took away some of his quickness and athleticism....Yan lang problem sa Pinoy ballers, once they get the money, they tend to relax and lost their motivation...Unlike NBA players, even Superstars continue to grind it out....
    you forgot he came from various injuries. bulked up but its toned body type. 15ppg 5rpg is still decent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tootch View Post
    you forgot he came from various injuries. bulked up but its toned body type. 15ppg 5rpg is still decent.
    Exactly 15/5 and still a starter even after riddled with injury is not that bad. Even getting rumoured gilas call ups today. Blaming it on relaxing and loss of motivation is hilarious. We dont know what most of these guys are doing.

    IMO Belo was ready last year but of course had to give it up to Parks. Now his touches are cut in half because of an Unleashed Sumang and Trollano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert0326 View Post
    I like this video.. it shows how these two teams are above from the rest of the teams here in the PBA.. ball movement is the key for success..

    For tnt:
    https://youtu.be/16tWNqpQmis

    For ginebra:
    https://youtu.be/ymA4gTwH2xw
    ball movement? more like stacking players thats why they are above the rest. They can make 2 first fives for other teams with their lineup. smh

    getting the starters from other teams and make them your bench players is the key to success

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    Quote Originally Posted by spidey102279 View Post
    ball movement? more like stacking players thats why they are above the rest. They can make 2 first fives for other teams with their lineup. smh

    getting the starters from other teams and make them your bench players is the key to success
    TNT's bench are not that deep.. maybe 3-4 players can contribute, but not as strong as you think.. while Ginebra's bench are oldies although still strong.. ROS bench is more deeper than these two.. Their starters (TNT & Ginebra) are solid thou.. If bench is your taliking about then SMB is the deepest of all.. But because their main weapon (Junmar) is out, They have a hard time to adjust because they have no Plan B in case Junmar will injured or out, Even they have that deepest bench, Their deep bench is useless because they haven't no other plays/system to survive.. so your argue is invalid..

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    Quote Originally Posted by IPC View Post
    Well, our local coaches could at least follow Cone's example. So far, Cone's tweaks have been working. He plays a somewhat positionless system, as does Topex.

    Maybe Dickel, Cone, and maybe Topex will really force the other coaches to adjust and play a system offense. I don't know why most aren't doing that.
    If ROS somehow elevate Chris Gavina as the head coach, maybe they will become real contenders..Their deep line up is useless if Caloy still doing bad coaching..

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