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  • And Lekavicius shoots 39.4% threes now which is his EL career %. He stepping up nicely. 10,2pts, 2,5as in 19min is solid. Too bad Grigonis gone, it would be another story with him.
    LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

    Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
    Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
    Buzelis, Lelevicius
    Murauskas, Sirvydis
    Tubelis, Krivas

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    • Originally posted by Straight forward View Post
      And Lekavicius shoots 39.4% threes now which is his EL career %. He stepping up nicely. 10,2pts, 2,5as in 19min is solid. Too bad Grigonis gone, it would be another story with him.
      He's been amazing these two games, but as soon as real started to switch he was struggling. I want to see him even more confident with his shot. He sometimes passes good shots for worse ones.

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      • Originally posted by Svajunas View Post
        He's been amazing these two games, but as soon as real started to switch he was struggling. I want to see him even more confident with his shot. He sometimes passes good shots for worse ones.
        Lekavicius is the best when he can utilize p'n'r situations. When defenders switching everything, he's most often in trouble. However, he's deadly in transition and he showed that in NT perfectly. What I really somehow miss in Zalgiris is more of a transition BB. To me, it's illogical to slow things down while you don't have a single true PG. Really sick and tired to see Walkup kneading the damn ball meaningless and wasting the time. Let the scrubs run and score No, seriously, how Ulanovas can't make an open shots, is beyond me. Just put the damn ball down. He can really shoot, he's experienced, but somehow something is not clicking, like he's missing some motivation or swagger that Jonas Maciulis always had f.e. (I kinda projected the same career for Ulanovas, but now it seems he'll never reach Maciulis level). I agree with Lekavicius should simply even be more decisive, he's the best scoring guard in the team at the moment, since Grigonis out. Simply Zalgiris has no better options, and if not Lekavicius, it would probably be a sweep for Zalgiris. The guy dropped 18pts in the first half, it's like to drop 28pts in 2 quarters in the NBA. Anyway, here's all Lekavicius buckets in 2019 WC, for his fans:

        Enjoy this compilation of every single field goal & highlight from Lithuania's Lukas Lekavicius during his run at the FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019.►► Subsc...
        LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

        Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
        Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
        Buzelis, Lelevicius
        Murauskas, Sirvydis
        Tubelis, Krivas

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        • Sharas explained that manny times.

          He wants zalgiris players making even more fauls and make game even more slower that gives zalgiris the best chance to win.Make game slow offensively for opponent with good prepared zalgiris defence and smart ball movement offensively.Zalgiris don't wanna run with those euroleague teams and be smoked out of building by teams like Madrid playing faster.

          In open race and free movement game bigger tallent team will win.Zalgiris wants to be game under 75 always, be slower physical battle .

          For Lukas that running style fits better for sure, but for zalgiris as a team that's big no no.

          Same goes for NT we don't wanna run having Sabonis and Valanciunas we want to be slower physical battle.That best plan for what we have.
          Last edited by Shawshank; 01-10-2020, 02:59 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
            Sharas explained that manny times.

            He wants zalgiris players making even more fauls and make game even more slower that gives zalgiris the best chance to win.Make game slow offensively for opponent with good prepared zalgiris defence and smart ball movement offensively.Zalgiris don't wanna run with those euroleague teams and be smoked out of building by teams like Madrid playing faster.

            In open race and free movement game bigger tallent team will win.Zalgiris wants to be game under 75 always, be slower physical battle .

            For Lukas that running style fits better for sure, but for zalgiris as a team that's big no no.

            Same goes for NT we don't wanna run having Sabonis and Valanciunas we want to be slower physical battle.That best plan for what we have.
            No-one speaks about run and gun a la Latin America type of basketball off course Even though Alba this season has as much wins as Zalgiris (just interesting remark). I talk about more possibilities to run in offence. One thing is to slow down opposition offence, other to slow down your own offence. With Saras, as long as he's in Zalgiris, it will always be more about set offence with precise sets and so on, but generally it's on player's to see opportunities. Saras in the podcast said very clearly, whenever it's third or twenty third second of possession, the goal is to get off with a good shot. Saras doesn't demand to slow the game down as you say, nothing even close, his teams with Pangos, White and even coast to coast Davies, often run and did it well. At times even current Zalgiris does it well, IMO, both Walkup and Lekavicius are way better at transition BB than set offence. I simply asking for a bit more of transition BB. And don't compare Zalgiris with NT. Saras' Zalgiris never had beefy centers, true bruisers. This season it's even a real desert, there's not even a single guy who can trully handle EL physicality, don't compare those punks with Sabonis and JV or even Gudaitis. That's whole another story. This Zalgiris team is not playing through bigs, maybe Saras would like to, but he needs to prepare rookies for that first.
            LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

            Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
            Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
            Buzelis, Lelevicius
            Murauskas, Sirvydis
            Tubelis, Krivas

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            • I'm repeating in open freely moving game better tallent wins especially if that tallent advantage is in backourt.

              When Sharas says shoot in first or second it doesn't mean fast break, it means he don't care until it's good shot.

              If you game plan is do not allow better tallent teams to freely move and trying to make more of ugly physical wrestling contest fast break in not your priority.

              If zalgiris get a steal and have advantage 2 vs 1 or 3 vs2 sure you must attack on fast break but only then.


              But main plan is make slow physical defensive battle and smart ball movement attacking weak spots.
              With Pangos and Misic zalgiris had seriuos tallent in backourt and could play more open game,we can't compare those 2 to Lukas and Walkup tandem.

              Sharas coaching didn't become worse, tallent is worse he had to work with.

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              • Originally posted by Shawshank View Post
                When Sharas says shoot in first or second it doesn't mean fast break, it means he don't care until it's good shot.
                I specially enjoyed this one. He doesnt care until it's a good shot, but what else it can be than fast brake if it's second or third second of possession? Yes, it does mean fast brake, it literally can't be anything else if we speak about the possession which starts on your defensive side.

                Better backcourt wins in uptempo game? No shit!

                You're missing the point that running into fast brake doesn't mean you allow opponents to run. Zalgiris doesn't have facilitators. Walkup has absolute freedom, but he barely gathers 5 assists in 26 minutes, even Lekavicius probably get that with such minutes and it only shows Zalgiris doesn't have solid facilitator. If you want to play solid set offence, you either have to have a heck of a position-less line-up or to have a solid facilitator who would create and control the game. Zalgiris doesn't have such and even more, Zalgiris doesn't have advantage in the frontcourt. If there was Grigonis, Zalgiris would be clearly guards team this season. Even now, lately it's Lekavicius and Walkup who leads the team.

                Again, no-one suggests to run like chickens without it's heads, but Zalgiris set offence has been rather poor, obviously inability to shoot also played the key role here too.

                No-one here even argue that Saras is bad coach or declined, no idea how you came up with the contra-argument while there's even no argument in the first place.
                LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                Buzelis, Lelevicius
                Murauskas, Sirvydis
                Tubelis, Krivas

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                • Its impossible to shoot on 1 or 2 second dont need to understand what sharas says literally.His point at that remark was to say system is to create good shot its on 1 or 23 seconds he dont care.He wasnt talking about fats break at all you putting diffrent meaning to what he said .He was talking about zalgiris system shot selection not about fast breaks.

                  He said first or second just everyone to understand and dont think zalgiris players cant shoot early.Sharas is getting some blame that he controls team to much and not allow to create for players so putted those "sound words" as shoot on 1 or 2 second that even impossible to do in fast break.So or dont understand what he says and want to see what you like.

                  After Real game Sharas said directly plan was not allow them to play and put them out rhytm ,more less be destroyers not creators.Real want to be up and go all the time its very risky line with them.If no obviuos advantage, plan stop stop stop and making them play defence for 18-20 seconds (Real hates to do that).

                  How do you imagine running? if your my plan is make faul to slow down game? defence and offence are connected.It was obviuos on what pace zalgiris wanted to play versus real and in most games this season.Zalgiris system rules makes fast breaks unlikely unless your opponenets gonna do alot of tournavers.


                  This year Zalgiris cant play open basketball in euroleague ,same goes to NT because of big lack of tallent of backourt.Its not about dominate centers its about lack tallent in backourt thats limits you as a team.We all want to see 2003-2004 nt playing style,but thats unrealistic with limitations in backourt.

                  In Sharas teams always guards leads because entire offence is in their hands,its not about numbers its about how they create for others and leads entire team.

                  With Pangos and Misic leading in backourt zalgiris made even to final four and all season long was surely top 6 team.

                  This year with Lukas and Walkup zalgiris basketball is ugly and very limited creativity comes form guards.Lukas creates only for himself and Walkup defends well and like loyal soldier does everything sharas says.But both of them is back up guards in euroleague not starters.Grigonis was the only euroleague level starter ,his injury hurted zalgiris backourt alot,but even with him it was obviuos problems with playmaking.

                  Lately both pg plays well,we will see will their manage to stay on similiar level or again will be two good games 3 bad ones and so on.
                  Last edited by Shawshank; 01-13-2020, 02:30 AM.

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                  • I will again express my opinion that our worst problem this year is our C's and PF's. None of them are euroleague level. Maybe Leday but only every second week.

                    We can't defend in paint because their are not tall/strong enough to stop any more physical opponents and they are not hitting their outside shots.

                    Guard are not performing as good as we hoped for, but bigs are even worse.

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                    • Originally posted by Svajunas View Post
                      I will again express my opinion that our worst problem this year is our C's and PF's. None of them are euroleague level. Maybe Leday but only every second week.

                      We can't defend in paint because their are not tall/strong enough to stop any more physical opponents and they are not hitting their outside shots.

                      Guard are not performing as good as we hoped for, but bigs are even worse.
                      Sure, none plays good enough, but on other hand bigs are dependable on guards. If they can't get the ball in right position, if they gets it late or in not comfortable one - there's the biggest problem and that's what is happening. In Zalgiris system key is PG. Good PGs could make even a tree dance. But now they doesn't help much either, so bigs are left to play lot of individual game, way too much. How come Landale is not an EL level? He is. 11pts/4rbs/10eff in 20mins is surely not numbers from some scrub, sure defense is still far from good, but its fixable,let's not forget that he also missed entire preparation period. Landale is very similar case like Davies was in his beginnings, also lot of fans were saying that he is not capable of playing in EL, he can't cope physically, defends poor, has too little skills and etc, the same happens with Landale, just most likely it won't have happy ending, at least not this season, cause Davies had PGs beside him and when finally was able to match physicality of league, he blossomed in the end of the season. With Walkup and Lukas you have close to zero chances for that to happen. That's the biggest blooper of Motiejunas and Saras - to keep playing without a true PG when Perez decided to leave

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                      • I happened to watch a few bits of Zalgiris games here and there recently and their main issues and unsolvable really - a lack of true leader and and painful lack of talent too. Schemes can only be as good as the players who are executing them on court and you can't expect Milaknis or heavily undersized Lekavicius to compete on the same level with the likes of Larkin or Mike James lol...a very soft frontcourt kills greens in every single game too, as in previous seasons they at least had Davies to provide inside presence against other bruising bigs. In other words, they are at the bottom of the table fair and square and asking them to overachieve once again is asking them to play above their abilities imo

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                        • Originally posted by Mindozas View Post
                          Sure, none plays good enough, but on other hand bigs are dependable on guards. If they can't get the ball in right position, if they gets it late or in not comfortable one - there's the biggest problem and that's what is happening. In Zalgiris system key is PG. Good PGs could make even a tree dance. But now they doesn't help much either, so bigs are left to play lot of individual game, way too much. How come Landale is not an EL level? He is. 11pts/4rbs/10eff in 20mins is surely not numbers from some scrub, sure defense is still far from good, but its fixable,let's not forget that he also missed entire preparation period. Landale is very similar case like Davies was in his beginnings, also lot of fans were saying that he is not capable of playing in EL, he can't cope physically, defends poor, has too little skills and etc, the same happens with Landale, just most likely it won't have happy ending, at least not this season, cause Davies had PGs beside him and when finally was able to match physicality of league, he blossomed in the end of the season. With Walkup and Lukas you have close to zero chances for that to happen. That's the biggest blooper of Motiejunas and Saras - to keep playing without a true PG when Perez decided to leave
                          Maybe he is passable on offense , but he is very soft on defence. Maybe he will get better later on, but he is not good enough for EL now.

                          I will stay to my opinion that we have worse frontcourt then backcourt.

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                          • Originally posted by Svajunas View Post
                            Maybe he is passable on offense , but he is very soft on defence. Maybe he will get better later on, but he is not good enough for EL now.

                            I will stay to my opinion that we have worse frontcourt then backcourt.
                            We simply see situation from different angles. Individually this season backcourt looks better, especially when Grigonis was there, but they does it all on their own, they doesn't help frontcourt, which is one of their main tasks on court. I can easily say that Lukas and Walkup are not on EL level what comes to creativity, so that's where the main problem lies IMO - we just lack a PG who could create for a team, for bigs. That's all on management and Saras for not signing a proper PG. Sure, Leo leaving, who would be now like a blessing even tho he was not so brilliant, then all this Perez stuff, then maybe there were no decent options, but playing with Walkup and Lukas as PGs was like suicide ever since the beginning of the season

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                            • How about Lekavicius dropping 20,3pts per last three games? It's extremely tough to do in EL, it's the same as to average 28 in the NBA. I think it's has to do with the fact he got consistent minutes with Zalgiris, got all over WC hangover, and now really delivering. He shoots rather insane 58.8% form 2 for a guard in a season, and solid 40% threes. So current Zalgiris should give all freakin' freedom for little fellow with current offensive talent. When you have a guard who shoot 60%, you let him mess around a little bit:

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                              LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                              Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                              Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                              Buzelis, Lelevicius
                              Murauskas, Sirvydis
                              Tubelis, Krivas

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                              • In euroleague it was 19 games played...16 games doesn't count only last 3 games counts ok

                                Nice hangover half of euroleague season.Lukas have no problems in defence, he don't need no help from teammates i don't understand why he plays only 19 min.He can score, who cares about playmaking and defence.

                                Sharas don't understand that basketball is changing?!

                                Playing biggest minutes by players that's actually can defend everything ,but very limited offensively in Walkup,Ulanovas, Hayes.

                                Valanciunas averaging in last 2 NBA games 25pts per game and shots ridiculous 60+% .Morant stop shooting your only 40%made
                                shots and feed the big men!
                                Last edited by Shawshank; 01-16-2020, 11:34 PM.

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