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    Quote Originally Posted by Mate_Kokicar View Post
    Considering that almost all teams have 14-15 players roster and rotate 9-10 players in each game, along with fact that there are 4 more rounds this year, bench would be even more essential. Though smart Aussie heads removed it for some reason. SMH I expect a lot of DNP this year.
    More rounds, less value for the bench. Mathematically speaking.

    We all have many teams at the begging and it looks how every missing players matters. In reality only the best team’s missing players matters. In previous editions, which we liked more, we had 10 players in each team, and no bench, meaning, possibility for missing player was much bigger, but the winners were very limited. Imho few missing points means nothing. Lets look at this round, James made 2 points and lost money, do you really believe that Caspi against Real and some cheap players would make big difference? Especially looking long run.

    This is marathon, who cares for 10 points. I would much rather have James missing round than loosing a lot of money.

    Edit: Somehow James didn’t lose a lot of money.
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    Man, how this pricing stinks. Calathes, Nando and James started at almost the same price, first has 22.2 avg, second 19.5 and the third 16.5 average but their price is still almost the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    More rounds, less value for the bench. Mathematically speaking.

    We all have many teams at the begging and it looks how every missing players matters. In reality only the best team’s missing players matters. In previous editions, which we liked more, we had 10 players in each team, and no bench, meaning, possibility for missing player was much bigger, but the winners were very limited. Imho few missing points means nothing. Lets look at this round, James made 2 points and lost money, do you really believe that Caspi against Real and some cheap players would make big difference? Especially looking long run.

    This is marathon, who cares for 10 points. I would much rather have James missing round than loosing a lot of money.

    Edit: Somehow James didn’t lose a lot of money.
    You're more experienced but I don't agree on this.
    More rounds means more playing time in total which means there's a need for wider rotation and coaches have to rest their star players every now and then, especially late in the season. If top player miss a couple of games, that's not a big deal for the coach/team. It's more important to get him healthy and ready for the Playoffs and F4. Something similar to NBA.

    Also, every single point counts, especially 10-20 for a single player and especially with a ton of more or less similar teams in second part of the season.
    There's basically less than 100 PIR gap between 1st and 10th place at the end of the season (unlike in previous format) so 10 points count for sure.
    I'm not talking about looking long run but for a single matchday.

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    Man, how this pricing stinks. Calathes, Nando and James started at almost the same price, first has 22.2 avg, second 19.5 and the third 16.5 average but their price is still almost the same.
    Shved should have also lost some value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mate_Kokicar View Post
    You're more experienced but I don't agree on this.
    More rounds means more playing time in total which means there's a need for wider rotation and coaches have to rest their star players every now and then, especially late in the season. If top player miss a couple of games, that's not a big deal for the coach/team. It's more important to get him healthy and ready for the Playoffs and F4. Something similar to NBA.

    Also, every single point counts, especially 10-20 for a single player and especially with a ton of more or less similar teams in second part of the season.
    There's basically less than 100 PIR gap between 1st and 10th place at the end of the season (unlike in previous format) so 10 points count for sure.
    I'm not talking about looking long run but for a single matchday.



    Shved should have also lost some value.
    10: (34x180)=0,0016 I can afford it. You too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    10: (34x180)=0,0016 I can afford it. You too.
    Yeah but it's still 10 less in total at the end of the season.
    Btw I expected more than 10 from Casspi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mate_Kokicar View Post
    Yeah but it's still 10 less in total at the end of the season.
    Btw I expected more than 10 from Casspi.
    One missed Ft is 2 points difference and you’re complaining about 0.3 points per game.

    You expected more than 10 from Caspi and I expected 20+ from James. Shit happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    One missed Ft is 2 points difference and you’re complaining about 0.3 points per game.

    You expected more than 10 from Caspi and I expected 20+ from James. Shit happens.
    Me too thus I captained him in most of the teams where I had him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    Man, how this pricing stinks. Calathes, Nando and James started at almost the same price, first has 22.2 avg, second 19.5 and the third 16.5 average but their price is still almost the same.
    So, third year if this crap and still we don't know how to calculate prices
    Not even a rough estimation?
    Anyway, hasn't anybody ask those idiots why they don't publish the formula? What's the bug secret?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyserSoze View Post
    So, third year if this crap and still we don't know how to calculate prices
    Not even a rough estimation?
    Anyway, hasn't anybody ask those idiots why they don't publish the formula? What's the bug secret?
    Looking those prices, there isn’t any consistent formula. And for sure not the same like last year. Prices are going very difficult up and even more difficult down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    Looking those prices, there isn’t any consistent formula. And for sure not the same like last year. Prices are going very difficult up and even more difficult down.
    So you'd say that there is no point of sacrificing rkg in order to hunt down credits in the early rounds in order to have enough budget at later stages?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyserSoze View Post
    So you'd say that there is no point of sacrificing rkg in order to hunt down credits in the early rounds in order to have enough budget at later stages?
    I didn't say that, but it's kinda strange that a player with 3 and 1 doesn't even goes max. down. (1 in second round is worth only - 10% and he wasn't cheap). Or that we have multiple players with different scores but very similar prices, even though they started from very similar staring price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    I didn't say that, but it's kinda strange that a player with 3 and 1 doesn't even goes max. down. (1 in second round is worth only - 10% and he wasn't cheap). Or that we have multiple players with different scores but very similar prices, even though they started from very similar staring price.
    I have found new interesting case. James and Larkin had the same price before round 1, 1.96 mio. One scored 31 and second 34. James went up only 120.000 and Larkin 200.000. Wtf?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    I have found new interesting case. James and Larkin had the same price before round 1, 1.96 mio. One scored 31 and second 34. James went up only 120.000 and Larkin 200.000. Wtf?
    Larkin did that in one game.. His average is 34..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    I have found new interesting case. James and Larkin had the same price before round 1, 1.96 mio. One scored 31 and second 34. James went up only 120.000 and Larkin 200.000. Wtf?
    Since the formula is apparently on a 5 games stretch..
    ..I bet they calculate with last three games of previous season..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrRager View Post
    Larkin did that in one game.. His average is 34..
    Nobody is talking about game #2. They both were 1.96 mio in the start. James first game was 31, going up 1.2 mio, Larkin first game was 34 going up 2.0 mio. Looks that normal?
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    I bet exists real bug in this game this year as prices is just hilarious, going up quite high and not dropping at all.

    Situation with James and Shved is absurd. If James price won't drop 150K if he scores less than 15 will be really really interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AiwiTo View Post
    I bet exists real bug in this game this year as prices is just hilarious, going up quite high and not dropping at all.

    Situation with James and Shved is absurd. If James price won't drop 150K if he scores less than 15 will be really really interesting.
    The most absurd is James/Larkin situation. Same beginning price, very similar score in theirs first match, but big difference in new price. 120.000 vs 200.000.
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    Guys, what`s the state with vildoza? Did he travel to Turkey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by radallo View Post
    Since the formula is apparently on a 5 games stretch..
    ..I bet they calculate with last three games of previous season..
    Maybe,but how they calculate newcomers in competition,monroe with 12,1 at 1st game and value at 1,48,increased his price at 1,49...i think we can estimate the prices after game 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vangs View Post
    Maybe,but how they calculate newcomers in competition,monroe with 12,1 at 1st game and value at 1,48,increased his price at 1,49...i think we can estimate the prices after game 5.
    They don’t count last years prices. They just totally fucked up the game.

    How much player is going up or down is debatable but how is possible that 2 players with exactly the same price going up with totally different factor? Larkin’s score was 10% better but his price went up 66% more. Somehow James’s 31 is worth only 6% rise.
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