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Thread: Euroleague/Club Competition 2019-20: Signings & Rumours - vol. I

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    Biberovic really popped up in the last quarter. Game was already clear but both teams fought till the last second. Bora Yasar on Dackas side 2003 born forward played 10 minutes and showed impressive ball handling for his size. Saw him defending Vesely and both were at the same height so i guess the guy is already 209 cm or even 210 cm...

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    It's great to see Brown in such role after years of not having true pg in the team. Barthel too is such character player comparing to clown Williams.

    Good to see Biberovic get some minutes but the real chance for him will be BSL games.

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    After seeing our play, considering how early it is and how little time they had to build a chemistry, I am cautiously optimistic about Fener. The defense looks hungry and consistent, transition opportunities galore, rebounding problems significantly decreased. We still have some issues in half-court offense, hopefully will be better when Westermann is back and the team has better chemistry and gets used to new sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    It's great to see Brown in such role after years of not having true pg in the team. Barthel too is such character player comparing to clown Williams.

    Good to see Biberovic get some minutes but the real chance for him will be BSL games.
    I agree with you this time - Brown seems like a true leader especially in defense and transition offense (but his p&r offense is also not bad). Also agree that Barthel is like Melli-lite, such a clever player always at the right spot despite not being terribly athletic.
    Dilimde şarkıların gündüz gece
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    Bu dünyayı yakarız senin için
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivo View Post
    I agree with you this time - Brown seems like a true leader especially in defense and transition offense (but his p&r offense is also not bad). Also agree that Barthel is like Melli-lite, such a clever player always at the right spot despite not being terribly athletic.
    I will always support good things and smart things in Fener but when something is bad I will say that loudly regardless of fanatic herd who throw stones on different opinions.

    You know what I think about Ulanovas signing, but this time it's less important because seems to me he will not be ball hog like Williams and Kalinic for instance. There are situations when bad players can contribute to the team if they don't try to make heroic things.

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    Maccabi agreed with Max Heidegger (23/191, has Israeli citizenship) for multiseason deal, because Zussman and JonDi are still not 100% ready. Amare is most probably continues as well. All this according to several sites, except shameful Sport5, who claims opposite for Amare...Not surprising, since only person worth reading on that site remains Shay Hauzman...
    Heidegger will probably be loaned later in the season in case Zuss and Jondi come back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMaccabiFan View Post
    Maccabi agreed with Max Heidegger (23/191, has Israeli citizenship) for multiseason deal, because Zussman and JonDi are still not 100% ready. Amare is most probably continues as well. All this according to several sites, except shameful Sport5, who claims opposite for Amare...Not surprising, since only person worth reading on that site remains Shay Hauzman...
    Heidegger will probably be loaned later in the season in case Zuss and Jondi come back.
    Dont know him but his stats are nothing special. He is a last minute add a d also jewish, but diba is diba. We ll miss him al ot

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    Dragan Bender reportedly replacing Quincy Acy at Maccabi Tel Aviv

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky7 View Post
    Dragan Bender reportedly replacing Quincy Acy at Maccabi Tel Aviv
    According to "One" site it's only for three months, with option to stay till the end of the season, since Bender still wants to get back to NBA. And they also claim that Acy can get back after recovery from injury... A bit strange, but let's see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMaccabiFan View Post
    According to "One" site it's only for three months, with option to stay till the end of the season, since Bender still wants to get back to NBA. And they also claim that Acy can get back after recovery from injury... A bit strange, but let's see.
    As much as I think that you made one of the steals of the whole off season with ATZ as much I think that you'll be disappointed with Bender. Soft, hiding, avoiding contact, no back to the basket game. Usually Maccabi is searching stretch options but his shot is not reliable for EL niveau. I hope I am wrong because he is really a good guy and I wish him success in Maccabi. A player where it is visible that he took some career steps too early or let's say made big errors by not taking some necessary steps in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katastroika View Post
    As much as I think that you made one of the steals of the whole off season with ATZ as much I think that you'll be disappointed with Bender. Soft, hiding, avoiding contact, no back to the basket game. Usually Maccabi is searching stretch options but his shot is not reliable for EL niveau. I hope I am wrong because he is really a good guy and I wish him success in Maccabi. A player where it is visible that he took some career steps too early or let's say made big errors by not taking some necessary steps in between.
    I preferred gill but bender as acy repleacement is an improvement. In europe, under a perimetral v o ach, he could show is talent

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    Pao lost Supercup game against Peristeri and received 90 points. Trashy outside defense... I dont think Oly and Pao are serious playoff candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    Pao lost Supercup game against Peristeri and received 90 points. Trashy outside defense... I dont think Oly and Pao are serious playoff candidates.
    Judging by your posts, thinking is not something you should be doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katastroika View Post
    As much as I think that you made one of the steals of the whole off season with ATZ as much I think that you'll be disappointed with Bender. Soft, hiding, avoiding contact, no back to the basket game. Usually Maccabi is searching stretch options but his shot is not reliable for EL niveau. I hope I am wrong because he is really a good guy and I wish him success in Maccabi. A player where it is visible that he took some career steps too early or let's say made big errors by not taking some necessary steps in between.
    I wasn't following him in NBA, just watched few highlights and one in depth analysis of his NBA career, and also red analyses from Milwakee and SF commentators, which liked his shot and defending abilities. Looks like he's been improving in last two years, I don't know why you think his shot is unreliable, when he did shoot around 40% from 3pt in last couple of teams. Around two blocks per game is not bad too, as well as around 7 contested shots per game. He can handle ball pretty well, has wingspan and reach to defend, as well as height. He added muscle mass, so he's not that soft. G-league performance was pretty good, which if sometimes good indication for EL performance.

    He's certainly not direct replacement for Acy, and he does look more like center, than PF, so question is, can Maccabi afford having him and Zizic on the court at the same time, but Yannis usually knows what he is doing, and he wanted to get him in.
    There are indeed several question marks, but same question marks, albeit a bit less, can be put on Zizic too, right? We"ll see how it works out. It can be flop, but can be steal of the season as well. Oh, and don't forget, he and Zizic know each other and played together since young age, so it can be another plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMaccabiFan View Post
    I wasn't following him in NBA, just watched few highlights and one in depth analysis of his NBA career, and also red analyses from Milwakee and SF commentators, which liked his shot and defending abilities. Looks like he's been improving in last two years, I don't know why you think his shot is unreliable, when he did shoot around 40% from 3pt in last couple of teams. Around two blocks per game is not bad too, as well as around 7 contested shots per game. He can handle ball pretty well, has wingspan and reach to defend, as well as height. He added muscle mass, so he's not that soft. G-league performance was pretty good, which if sometimes good indication for EL performance.

    He's certainly not direct replacement for Acy, and he does look more like center, than PF, so question is, can Maccabi afford having him and Zizic on the court at the same time, but Yannis usually knows what he is doing, and he wanted to get him in.
    There are indeed several question marks, but same question marks, albeit a bit less, can be put on Zizic too, right? We"ll see how it works out. It can be flop, but can be steal of the season as well. Oh, and don't forget, he and Zizic know each other and played together since young age, so it can be another plus.
    Where did you get those numbers? He was shooting 22% in Pho 2 years ago and he was shooting 32% in GSW and 44% in MIL last year, but those 44% is worthless, because he made only 4 3s in MIL. And don’t forget, it was garbage time all season long in GSW. Bender didn’t develop his game in Nba at all, you’re basically getting old Bender back. Soft player without self confidence. The only difference is, he has better looking body, which won’t help him much, because his game is as soft as it can be.

    The big difference between Zizic and Bender is, that Zizic already proved he can play in EuroLeague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMaccabiFan View Post
    I wasn't following him in NBA, just watched few highlights and one in depth analysis of his NBA career, and also red analyses from Milwakee and SF commentators, which liked his shot and defending abilities. Looks like he's been improving in last two years, I don't know why you think his shot is unreliable, when he did shoot around 40% from 3pt in last couple of teams. Around two blocks per game is not bad too, as well as around 7 contested shots per game. He can handle ball pretty well, has wingspan and reach to defend, as well as height. He added muscle mass, so he's not that soft. G-league performance was pretty good, which if sometimes good indication for EL performance.

    He's certainly not direct replacement for Acy, and he does look more like center, than PF, so question is, can Maccabi afford having him and Zizic on the court at the same time, but Yannis usually knows what he is doing, and he wanted to get him in.
    There are indeed several question marks, but same question marks, albeit a bit less, can be put on Zizic too, right? We"ll see how it works out. It can be flop, but can be steal of the season as well. Oh, and don't forget, he and Zizic know each other and played together since young age, so it can be another plus.
    I wouldn't take 7 games in Bucks where he shot 44% as a relevant factor. Of course also not the 21% in 46 games with Suns season before. The sample size is simply too small also for his 32% with Warriors episode. Question is usage. In heavy usage I wouldn't rely on him because of softness. A player he reminds me a lot is Marko Todorovic (Montenegro - now in China). We won't agree on that if Bender is soft or not because for my impression he really is. Anyways, I really hope that he will add something to his game in Tel Aviv, he has a great coach and management which trusts him. For him it would be perfect to add a complete season until next summer with MTA and not leaving again for NBA in January in my opinion. This step is a step forward and everything is up to him right now.

    I consider him a classical PF (especially if taken into consideration that he doesn't feel comfortable in the paint) but maybe he'll get some minutes in that spot, too. For me he is the classical definition of a stretch PF.
    For ATZ I agree with you, of course. It can happen either way, als always. But his quality is simply too big and if healthy I think he will rock and roll in MTA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katastroika View Post
    I wouldn't take 7 games in Bucks where he shot 44% as a relevant factor. Of course also not the 21% in 46 games with Suns season before. The sample size is simply too small also for his 32% with Warriors episode. Question is usage. In heavy usage I wouldn't rely on him because of softness. A player he reminds me a lot is Marko Todorovic (Montenegro - now in China). We won't agree on that if Bender is soft or not because for my impression he really is. Anyways, I really hope that he will add something to his game in Tel Aviv, he has a great coach and management which trusts him. For him it would be perfect to add a complete season until next summer with MTA and not leaving again for NBA in January in my opinion. This step is a step forward and everything is up to him right now.

    I consider him a classical PF (especially if taken into consideration that he doesn't feel comfortable in the paint) but maybe he'll get some minutes in that spot, too. For me he is the classical definition of a stretch PF.
    For ATZ I agree with you, of course. It can happen either way, als always. But his quality is simply too big and if healthy I think he will rock and roll in MTA.
    His carrier 3pts % in Nba is 32, which is very low knowing that 100% of his shots are assisted. 40% Fg and 51% TS is pretty bad too. Knowing that there is a lot more space in Nba, it's really hard to see how Bender can be important player in Europe. It looks to me that it's more about saving private Dragan, than seriously hoping he can help Maccabi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    His carrier 3pts % in Nba is 32, which is very low knowing that 100% of his shots are assisted. 40% Fg and 51% TS is pretty bad too. Knowing that there is a lot more space in Nba, it's really hard to see how Bender can be important player in Europe. It looks to me that it's more about saving private Dragan, than seriously hoping he can help Maccabi.
    Agree, Bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katastroika View Post
    Agree, Bob.
    bender is surely not nba stuff, but i think he could be a factor in europe. not same level as gill but much much better than acy. i bet he stay here till the end of the season.

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