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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    It was right decision. Who cares about BSL title
    But El is other story and as you see your prediction was wrong. But maybe not, we must wait just two weeks and will know
    only point to finish this season is to get money for TV rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    only point to finish this season is to get money for TV rights.
    I don't care about EL board motives.
    Just like idea of summer basketball and fair ending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    I don't care about EL board motives.
    Just like idea of summer basketball and fair ending.
    You won’t get fair ending even if they decide to play, because teams won’t be in the same position. Some can already train, some cannot. Some might play national leagues, some won’t. Some Americans will return, other won’t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    https://www.eurohoops.net/en/tbl/105...or-relegation/

    How unfair to Efes. I just wonder how their biggest supporter Janketa feels?

    It won’t happen, but I wonder how Euroleague would look, with some teams getting in shape in national competitions and others just training in the gym.
    Good question. Efes have a full rights to want resume the EL, as the best team and maybe, their only chance to win.

    All knowm about the top 5 which guaranty the F-8, and need to decided who will joing them.
    2019/2020:
    PG: Dorsey, Walters, S. Cohen
    SG: Wilbekin, D-Ba, Bryant
    SF:Casspi, Avdija, Zoosman
    PF: Acy, Coloiaro, J. Cohen
    PF: Black, Hunter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    only point to finish this season is to get money for TV rights.
    Money is all about. At the same time when the CL in football will return, FIBA CL will resume, the EL couldn't stay behind economic or prestige
    2019/2020:
    PG: Dorsey, Walters, S. Cohen
    SG: Wilbekin, D-Ba, Bryant
    SF:Casspi, Avdija, Zoosman
    PF: Acy, Coloiaro, J. Cohen
    PF: Black, Hunter

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    Guys, any opinion about Wade Balwin III?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZalgirisFanForLife View Post
    Guys, any opinion about Wade Balwin III?
    Bro, you gotta stop reading those random fake rumors at twitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    You won’t get fair ending even if they decide to play, because teams won’t be in the same position. Some can already train, some cannot. Some might play national leagues, some won’t. Some Americans will return, other won’t.
    Every ending on the court is fair. I realy don't understand your hype about Efes.
    It's not about Efes winning title but just let the best team win the title.
    I think acb teams have the best chance because they will be in the game after finishing their league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    Every ending on the court is fair. I realy don't understand your hype about Efes.
    It's not about Efes winning title but just let the best team win the title.
    I think acb teams have the best chance because they will be in the game after finishing their league.
    It’s yours hype. You were whining, how unfair is to Efes, if the season is cancelled. Covid-19 is unfair to everyone. They should have finished the season long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaliaBalta View Post
    Bro, you gotta stop reading those random fake rumors at twitter.
    A couple semi-decent accounts retweeted it, so there is soooome (very some) hope it might be true. I won't sit and wait till near summer end, to see the roster then. However, he could be an option only if Oly will let him go.

    Also, some interesting names (for Zalgiris) getting back to Europe, according to some "fake twitter rumors" - Goss, Javonte Green.

    Also, players, that are on Zalgirs budget level, that I would be pretty interested (keep in mind that Vasturia is done deal, Babb is on a target and very doubtfull Balwin rumor) - Lessort, Baron, Nnoko, Hermannson, Josh Adams, Roland Smits, Malcolm Thomas, maybe McKissic(if OLY will let him go).
    Any suggestions for Zalgiris from EL teams (300k-450k salary).
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    Stay clear of Wade Baldwin, he is deficient in every single way important for a guard on EL level.

    Javonte Green is a great backup SG for EL. He plays hard defense, very tough on the ball defender, rebounds, runs transition etc. He is a great sign...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    It’s yours hype. You were whining, how unfair is to Efes, if the season is cancelled. Covid-19 is unfair to everyone. They should have finished the season long time ago.
    The only one who whined here was you. You whined about corona and spamed this forum every fuckin day
    And there is your prediction that season will be canceled, haha. Efes prediction was false, Barca too, in fact you didn't have a single right prediction this season

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    The only one who whined here was you. You whined about corona and spamed this forum every fuckin day
    And there is your prediction that season will be canceled, haha. Efes prediction was false, Barca too, in fact you didn't have a single right prediction this season
    Kinda difficult season for predicting, don't you think? Fener being bad and Vesely disastrous were the only predictable things.
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    Sport24 is saying that Vovoras will coach PAO next season and that Thomas and Fredette will leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    Kinda difficult season for predicting, don't you think? Fener being bad and Vesely disastrous were the only predictable things.
    I predicted Fener disaster too, but not because Vesely. I predicted that after Williams transfer. Him instead of Melli is maybe the biggest downgrade in EL history. Everything started from this bad transfer.
    The second reason nobody could predict. That is Sloukas hurt vanity after De Colo coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    I predicted Fener disaster too, but not because Vesely. I predicted that after Williams transfer. Him instead of Melli is maybe the biggest downgrade in EL history. Everything started from this bad transfer.
    The second reason nobody could predict. That is Sloukas hurt vanity after De Colo coming.
    There may be a leading role available for him in Panathinaikos if he wants to prove himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachZ View Post
    Stay clear of Wade Baldwin, he is deficient in every single way important for a guard on EL level.

    Javonte Green is a great backup SG for EL. He plays hard defense, very tough on the ball defender, rebounds, runs transition etc. He is a great sign...
    Yeah, but I think that he could get more attention, than just from Zalgiris and the salary would go beyond 450k. But if we could get Green and not Babb, that would be a huge upgrade, in my opinion. If Grigonis, Walkup and Lekavičius stays, we shouldn't have much money left in bank and I doubt we could get such a deep roster, like this season.
    Also, Malcolm Thomas had a pretty rough year, and I would love to see him paired with Landale. What do you guys think?
    Roster that could make some noise in EL next season, but is just over the salary top for Zalgiris in crisis:
    PG Walkup(SG), Lekavicius, Jokūbaitis(SG)
    SG Grigonis(SF), Milaknis(SF), Lukošiūnas
    SF J. Green(SG)(Or Babb)
    PF Whittington, Hayes(SF), Masiulis
    C Landale, M. Thomas(PF), Geben
    HC Šaras

    But there are rumours, that we can't keep Grigonis and Walkup (Lekavičius stays if Šaras stays). We could get buyouts (actually we could also not, because if we can't pay them yhe money, they will be free) and with the buyouts, we could get only one foreigner because of the limit and he should be Pangos or Goss in my opinion. If we could pull something like Grigonis and Lekavičius stays, Walkup goes with buyout and we sign Pangos/Goss, that could be a better option for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    I predicted Fener disaster too, but not because Vesely. I predicted that after Williams transfer. Him instead of Melli is maybe the biggest downgrade in EL history. Everything started from this bad transfer.
    The second reason nobody could predict. That is Sloukas hurt vanity after De Colo coming.
    You should look at Vesely’s numbers. He’s one of the worst rebounders among Centers. The best avg. 8 rebounds, he avg. 4, less than some guards. He was 11th in blocks, the best avg. 2.18, Vesely 0.67. He was 70th in points, worse than Stimac, who has played 7 minutes less per game. Vesely was 126th in points per 40 minutes. He was 35th in index rating, 65th in index rating per 40 minutes. His salary is 2.430.000 $.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    You should look at Vesely’s numbers. He’s one of the worst rebounders among Centers. The best avg. 8 rebounds, he avg. 4, less than some guards. He was 11th in blocks, the best avg. 2.18, Vesely 0.67. He was 70th in points, worse than Stimac, who has played 7 minutes less per game. Vesely was 126th in points per 40 minutes. He was 35th in index rating, 65th in index rating per 40 minutes. His salary is 2.430.000 $.
    What's the point of showing numers of player who had the worst season in his career? Should I present now his numbers when he was MVP last season before injury?
    Higgins was one of the best players last season but his numbers are not such good as used to be. Does it mean he is baseball player now looking your logic?

    He is payed more then he deserves in this moment but what then about Sloukas? 2 milions for nothing.
    It's not Vesely guilt that Obradovic leaved him with mediocre support from players like Williams and Thomas. With Udoh and Melli beside him Vesely was one of the best bigs in EL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    What's the point of showing numers of player who had the worst season in his career? Should I present now his numbers when he was MVP last season before injury?
    Higgins was one of the best players last season but his numbers are not such good as used to be. Does it mean he is baseball player now looking your logic?

    He is payed more then he deserves in this moment but what then about Sloukas? 2 milions for nothing.
    It's not Vesely guilt that Obradovic leaved him with mediocre support from players like Williams and Thomas. With Udoh and Melli beside him Vesely was one of the best bigs in EL.
    I had impression that we are talking about this season. Difficult to be contender with one of the worse centers in the Euroleague this year, who is paid as top Euroleague player.

    We can look back, if you want.

    Berlin, 1/10 FT in overtime match. 3 Pir.
    Istanbul, non factor, in shadow of Udoh. Same goes for crucial playoffs series against Pao that year.
    Belgrade, total disappointment, 3 points, 1 Pir.
    Vitoria, non factor.

    Imho he was very lucky that he played for Obra and having great teammates all this years.

    Giving him MVP last year is the biggest joke in Euroleague history.
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