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    Default Your team's expectations: Success, Acceptable and Failure

    What, in your opinion merits a successful tournament for your team, what's acceptable and what would be a failure for your team?

    With the Olympics now tied to this event many teams will have a tangible prize at the end of this World Cup even if it's not the grand prize. So what are your expectations for your team?


    Team USA
    Success: Gold, no surprises here. The US is always going to Gold or bust.

    Acceptable: It might be an unpopular opinion, but given this is one of weakest pro US teams on paper. If we win Silver or Bronze, I'm going to be disappointed but I won't be mad.

    Failure: Knocked out in the round of 8/Not automatically qualifying for the Olympics. Finishing 5th or lower would be an abject failure, and if that means the US doesn't automatically qualify for the Olympics it would be a complete disaster.
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    Team Serbia

    Major Success: Gold and beating Team USA in the process. Nothing to add here, this would be a perfect send off for the current generation of guys like Bjelica, Teodosic etc. It will not be easy, but I don't think that it is out of the question if we play up to our potential.

    Success: Silver and an automatic qualy for the Olympics. Basically, if we get it people in Serbia would be more than satisfied. Of course, this means losing to Team USA. If by some chance we are playing for gold versus somebody else but Team USA and we fail to win, that would not be a success then.

    Acceptable: Bronze. Automatic qualy for the Olympics. I wouldn't be happy about it and I think that it would not be a successful tournament but I think Djordjevic survives that result.

    Failure: Everything else. We have to play up to our talent level, so anything outside of the semis at least should be a failure.

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    I completely agree with Coach Z’s assessment of Serbia.

    For US

    Success obviously Gold

    Acceptable. Like Dtown said not really acceptable but I won’t be irate if they were eliminated only by Serbia.

    Failure. Any other scenario.

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    For Turkey

    Major success: Semi finals and above

    Success: top 8

    Acceptable: third in second group, top 10 finish

    Failure: anything below

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    For Greece:

    Super success: Any medal

    Success: SF

    Acceptable: (?) Top-8

    Huge failure: Anything else

    .................................................. ....

    Notice:
    Perhaps the majority of bb fans in Greece has higher standards, like:

    Success: Any medal
    Acceptable: SF
    Failure: TOP-8 or below
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    TURKEY

    Major Success: Medal or direct qualification to Olympics (if two of Canada, Australia, Argentina get medals with USA and we finish top 5)

    Success: Quarter Final and Berth for Olympic Qualification Tournament

    Acceptable: Finishing 3rd at 2nd Round

    Failure: Finishing 3rd or below in Round 1
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    Success: Olympic Slot
    Acceptable OQT slot
    Failure: Go Winless
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    Montenegro:
    Qualifying to round 2: big success
    Not qualifying to round 2, OQT slot: moderate success
    Not qualifying to round 2, no OQT slot: big failure
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    For Lithuania

    Success: Semifinal

    Acceptable: 1/4 game

    Failure: not making top 8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawshank View Post
    For Lithuania

    Success: Semifinal

    Acceptable: 1/4 game

    Failure: not making top 8

    Id say not making out of the first group is acceptable for Lithuania but making out of first but not making it out of second group is failure

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    For Argentina

    Imposible: Semifinal.
    Success: Quarterfinal or less (only with direct qualification to Olympics).
    Failure: 9-16.
    Big Failure: 16 and lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okanial View Post
    Id say not making out of the first group is acceptable for Lithuania but making out of first but not making it out of second group is failure
    I think you dont know how possible second group of Lithuania could look France,Australia,Germany,Lithuania this is olympic tournament level group.Alll teams with multiple nba players.It will be very tough to survive this group.

    But saying that if Lithuania is not competing in 1/4 playoofs game this is bad tournament no matter what for us.Like one former our NT coach said if you are not playing in 1/4 game you are not on basketball map.
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    Canada:
    Success: Somehow Qualifying directly to the Olympics. We'd need some help from other nations to see Argentina, Venezuela and Brazil and the other Americas all fail to advance from the 1st pool.
    Acceptable: Beat the teams we still should beat in Senegal, DR and Jordan, placing 17-22 and directly qualifying of the Olympic Qualifier tournaments.
    Failure: Placing lower than 23 and missing the Qualifier tournaments. This would be a disaster on top of the disaster we are currently experiencing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adon View Post
    For Greece:

    Super success: Any medal

    Success: SF

    Acceptable: (?) Top-8

    Huge failure: Anything else
    ^ this guy gets it.
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    IMHO, for LITHUANIA

    Major Success: Finals or Direct qualification for Olympics or Any medal

    Success: Top 4 (Semi Finals)

    Acceptable: Dropping out at 1/4 against USA

    Failure: 9th place and lower.

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    Major success: making it to Olympics via World Cup
    Success: not making it, but finishing somewhere around top8
    Acceptable: 2nd round and finishing in Olympic qualifiers places
    Failure: losing to Senegal and finishing 0-3 in group


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    For Spain:

    - Success: Any medal
    - Acceptable: playing close games against the best teams. This likely requires reaching SFs, as most of the best teams on paper are on the other side of the bracket. But if we lose in QFs against the eventual champion I won't complain
    - Failure: getting stomped. Failing to compete against the good teams

    Unlike fans from other countries, I'm not concerned at all with qualifying for the Olympic Games. No way in hell FIBA leaves us out regardless of our performance in this tournament.

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    Two very different views from Zalia Balta and Mindozas. I am curious to know what are the general expectations from Lithuanian people? Zalia Balta's stance looks maybe too ambitious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodrigue Beaubois View Post
    Two very different views from Zalia Balta and Mindozas. I am curious to know what are the general expectations from Lithuanian people? Zalia Balta's stance looks maybe too ambitious.
    If you'd ask people in the streets of LT, you'd probably get some 50% expectations of gold and some 10% of Arvydas Sabonis being MVP

    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell Armstrong View Post
    No way in hell FIBA leaves us out regardless of our performance in this tournament.
    They won't, you are 2nd in rankings and best in Europe, so impossible to drop that much to not get invitation


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    Success: Semifinals.
    Acceptable: QF playing well and getting an olympic place. Prefer to qualify instead of getting a wildcard.
    Failure: Falling before QF or getting it playing bad.

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