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    The players were compensated in the last season but the owner had tremendous financial losses. To start the league end of December doesnt seem very realistic indeed but there are other solutions like starting earlier with a bunch of the teams and shift the schedule of Denver, LA etc.

    If they start in January there will be lesser games. Adam Silver wanted it anyway in the past to pull back the numbers of 82 games to 70th or even around 60 games. Maybe we wont see every NBA star in the Olympics (less in the qualifying Tournament) but there will be some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    The players were compensated in the last season but the owner had tremendous financial losses. To start the league end of December doesnt seem very realistic indeed but there are other solutions like starting earlier with a bunch of the teams and shift the schedule of Denver, LA etc.

    If they start in January there will be lesser games. Adam Silver wanted it anyway in the past to pull back the numbers of 82 games to 70th or even around 60 games. Maybe we wont see every NBA star in the Olympics (less in the qualifying Tournament) but there will be some.


    NBA start date set for Dec 22 with a 72 game season. Rest of the schedule not set, but the regular season probably ends in between May 15th and May 22 (there is talk of a play-in among the 7-10 seeds ending around May 22). Some formulations show the playoffs going all the way to July 22, the day before the Olympics.

    So although not all NBA players would want to play in the Olympics, all technically could. However we should expect the players in the finals to pass and probably the final four teams.

    As for the Qualifiers, we could see decent NBA participation with all the players who missed the playoffs having a over a month to prepare, and players that get knocked out in the 1st and maybe 2nd round able to join.


    I assume this helps Canada more than most countries, but it could be a boon for many others depending on how things shake out. Let the speculation begin.

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    https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1327990903168962560

    May 16: Regular season ends
    May 17-to-21: Play-in tournament for 7-to-10 seeds.
    May 22: First-round playoffs
    June 7: Conference semifinals
    June 22: Conference Finals
    July 8-22: NBA Finals

    So every player from their respective national teams who doesn't make the conference finals this year can participate in the qualifiers at least theoretically if healthy physically and mentally.
    Big blows could be: Luka, Schröder (should be sign with LAL according to WOJ), Bogdanovic (heavy interest from a few contenders while Bucks seem to be most interested), Jokic, Giannis, Zubac, Murray...

    Will be interesting to follow this short and brutal trade window and free agency.
    At least we are sure that everyone could participate at the Olympics and national teams that heavily rely on their NBA players can at least take some of the players to the qualifiers.
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    Woj can be taken as official source as much as I noticed, so that's a good news for Liths, of course if JV unexpectedly won't be traded somewhere to contenders, so Memphis will suck and Indiana will underperform. Will try to follow NBA season more closely too, didnt' do that for years, but since it will have major impact on Olympics, I'll try to, that's interesting


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    Woj can be taken as official source as much as I noticed, so that's a good news for Liths, of course if JV unexpectedly won't be traded somewhere to contenders, so Memphis will suck and Indiana will underperform. Will try to follow NBA season more closely too, didnt' do that for years, but since it will have major impact on Olympics, I'll try to, that's interesting
    If that means that Doncic shows up, it's bad news for Lithuania, IMO. However, I see Dallas going deep into West conference PO and maybe even reaching conference finals. IMO, Doncic will get a lot of pressure from Mark Cuban. So even if the date fits, it's way from obvious that Doncic comes. It's just that I don't see how for us available NBA players is good news. Doncic>>>>>>>>>>>>Domas, JV
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    If that means that Doncic shows up, it's bad news for Lithuania, IMO. However, I see Dallas going deep into West conference PO and maybe even reaching conference finals. IMO, Doncic will get a lot of pressure from Mark Cuban. So even if the date fits, it's way from obvious that Doncic comes. It's just that I don't see how for us available NBA players is good news. Doncic>>>>>>>>>>>>Domas, JV
    Dont chicken out. We want to watch the best possible teams and if you cant beat a bigless Slovenia in Lithuania you dont deserve a Olympic spot anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    Dont chicken out. We want to watch the best possible teams and if you cant beat a bigless Slovenia in Lithuania you dont deserve a Olympic spot anyway.
    Just sharing simple logic. Doncic impact should be massive, likely bigger then prime Dirk and Pau for their NT teams. So it's easy to understand that Lithuania has easiest path if there's no NBA players in QT. But you right, the team that will win, will deserve to be in OG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    Just sharing simple logic. Doncic impact should be massive, likely bigger then prime Dirk and Pau for their NT teams. So it's easy to understand that Lithuania has easiest path if there's no NBA players in QT. But you right, the team that will win, will deserve to be in OG.
    I like watching good basketball even if it means that my team has less chances. I would also prefer to see Giannis or Murray in Canada. National teams deserve to play in full strength. If there are injuries, ok, its part of a game but they should play if they can. There is nothing more important than playing for the country for the Olympics. The NBA needs to accept it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    I like watching good basketball even if it means that my team has less chances. I would also prefer to see Giannis or Murray in Canada. National teams deserve to play in full strength. If there are injuries, ok, its part of a game but they should play if they can. There is nothing more important than playing for the country for the Olympics. The NBA needs to accept it.
    Look, I also for the best playing. But I also would not blink once if someone would ask me to be OK with B teams going at each other in qualification. I wouldn't say, meh, it's unfair and so on. It's just that I really want to see OG, even their B version is much better than nothing, specially now that we skipped international tournament in 2020. And your situation is different, FOA Turkey's chances lays on NBA players primarily, SOA Turkey did not qualify for Olympics since 1952. While I'm watching Lithuania playing in OG since 1992 (first tournament of independent Lithuania) and we never skipped one single tournament since then. It's two different things to be familiar with Turkey's fragile chances to qualify and not to see Lithuania in OG. It would be a nightmare for us. We must participate in our 8th consecutive Olympic Games (the only Euro NT to make all OG since 1992).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    If that means that Doncic shows up, it's bad news for Lithuania, IMO. However, I see Dallas going deep into West conference PO and maybe even reaching conference finals. IMO, Doncic will get a lot of pressure from Mark Cuban. So even if the date fits, it's way from obvious that Doncic comes. It's just that I don't see how for us available NBA players is good news. Doncic>>>>>>>>>>>>Domas, JV
    That means that JV should be there for some 99%, at least the way things stands right now, while Domas and Doncic are questionable, especially Luka, as as much as I listened, searched and read opinions, seems like Mavs has decent shot to go far, maybe conference finals, then Indiana are rated as 1st PO round contender at best. But even if they both, Domas and Luka, will come they might miss major part or whole preparation. For Slovenes it might be a bit more troublesome, as it's not easy for teams to adjust to one big star quickly, it changes concept of the game completely and Slovenia weren't in such situation before, I mean with Luka. Imagine them preparing and not knowing all May/June will he come or not.
    Also I don't completely agree with your >>>>>>>>> part. Of course individually Doncic is a beast and better than any of JV or Domas. But looking at whole picture, having our NBA bigs is huge advantage over rather weak Slovenian frontcourt. If we can only slow down Luka at best, then who will deal with our bigs in the paint? None really, we can hit them and hit them through it all game long. Morgan is good player, but not of that caliber. He can be dangerous against our 2nd string players like Gudaitis or some Birutis. But not against JV or Domas or especially both. We should simply dominate this area, that's a big advantage. So overall it's of course subjective, but I see it as positive thing - given strenghts and weaknesses, one big advantage we would gain, JV guaranteed to be there and then two questionable star players from each side. Not a bad deal to start with IMO


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    Even if Luka comes, it's very questionable in what condition he will be. This will be the most demanding season in Nba. 72 games in less than 5 months and then playoffs. We all know that Luka's biggest problem is his conditioning. I don't believe he will improve much this short offseason. Kp probably missing start and many other games will put even bigger burden on Luka. If Mavs reach Conference semi finals, I don't see Luka helping Slovenia.

    Problem with bigs? Sure. But in 1 game, under Fiba rules, I don't see that too problematic. It will be more about, how good % for 3 will Slovenia have. But like I said, Slovenia first needs Luka in good condition to even have chances in that game and that looks unlikely at this moment. Many things can change of course. Mavs not making playoffs could have big impact. And then we still have slight possibility of Goran changing his mind. That would have changed chances for Slovenia dramatically. Goran/Prepelic/Blazic/Luka/Morgan is fantastic starting 5.
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    Did Goran gave any hints that he might change his mind lately? The last time I've read his interview on that matter, maybe it was in summer or bit earlier, he stated that he is done and there's no chance. But if it changed and if actually there's a chance, that would surely change a lot


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    Did Goran gave any hints that he might change his mind lately? The last time I've read his interview on that matter, maybe it was in summer or bit earlier, he stated that he is done and there's no chance. But if it changed and if actually there's a chance, that would surely change a lot
    He didn't say anything, but it's a big difference that he's signing new contract 1 year before Olympics. My guess is that he won't sign only 1 year contract, so it will be much easier for him to change his mind about playing his last tournament with Slovenia. Still a long shot, but there will be for sure some persuasions from his brother, who has missed gold in Eurobasket, Luka and NT.
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    https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/dallas...ry?id=74238143

    And Suns traded for Chris Paul. West is totally unpredictable this year.
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    Bogdanovic and Holiday to Bucks. So most likely no Bogdanovic at qualifiers but knowing his attitude towards national team and nation 100% at Olympics (if we qualify, of course).

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    Most likely no Giannis for Greece, as Bucks getting stronger with Jrue Holiday and Bogdanovic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    Most likely no Giannis for Greece, as Bucks getting stronger with Jrue Holiday and Bogdanovic.
    Bucks are having no bench at the moment. Let's see how they address these problem. Bucks problem is Giannis' inconsistent jumper in playoffs, I can't see how those changes will have meaningful impact in playoffs. Or people perhaps believe Bogdan will get clutch shots?
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    Good news for Turkey. Ersan Ilyasova was used in the trade with Bogdanovic and he has a not guaranteed 1 year deal with the Kings. Its probable that he is going to be waived. Its time to return home Ersan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Bob View Post
    Bucks are having no bench at the moment. Let's see how they address these problem. Bucks problem is Giannis' inconsistent jumper in playoffs, I can't see how those changes will have meaningful impact in playoffs. Or people perhaps believe Bogdan will get clutch shots?
    It's an issue I generally consider important for them. Usage of Bogdanovic will be much more important than people think. I think we all agree that 100% Giannis-based offense showed unsuccessful in playoffs and reading between the lines the Bucks FO acknowledgies this with this trade. It's not so much about important shots but about usage in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katastroika View Post
    It's an issue I generally consider important for them. Usage of Bogdanovic will be much more important than people think. I think we all agree that 100% Giannis-based offense showed unsuccessful in playoffs and reading between the lines the Bucks FO acknowledgies this with this trade. It's not so much about important shots but about usage in general.
    Bucks were always dominant in RS and underperformed in playoffs. It looks kinda unrealistic to me that upgrade from Bledsoe/Divicenzo to Jrue/Bogdanovic will totally change that. They are better but not that much. Problem is in Giannis, playoffs are just totally different ballgame, more like Fiba and we all know how Giannis looks there. They could move him in C, but I kinda doubt their backcourt is good enough to win the title. I like Lakers chances much more and I'm not convinced they will win East easily.

    Bogdanovic in theory could work, shooter who can do some playmaking too, but will they really take the ball from Giannis' hands? And even if they do that, how effective will Giannis be in that case?
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