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    We'll have to see how some players will develop this season in order to have a better view of how strong the rosters will become. We have to consider that it will have been two years between the WC 2019 and the OG 2021. Some players will have gotten older or have retired. While others will have developed into stars or solid players.
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    Oh great,just what I am looking for

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    Very good Lithuanian roster for Qualifers!

    Lithuania is keeping up it's great quality, depth and especially "winning culture". I am a big fan of Lithuanian team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katastroika View Post
    Very good Lithuanian roster for Qualifers!

    Lithuania is keeping up it's great quality, depth and especially "winning culture". I am a big fan of Lithuanian team.
    It's for Eurobasket qualifying window mate, not for Olympics QT


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    It's for Eurobasket qualifying window mate, not for Olympics QT
    I know, bro. Would be a little too early for Olympics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katastroika View Post
    I know, bro. Would be a little too early for Olympics
    Sure, you got me a bit confused by posting it here Not a big deal of course and agree, that's a good list, especially bearing in mind that we'll add guys to backcourt from EL like Grigonis, Lekavicius, Jokubaitis, Giedraitis. Then of course Gudaitis will be needed too, if NBA guys won't be available. But anyway, if Slovenes will come without Doncic, then Dragic won't reconsider his retirement, we should be fine


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    Possible USA team without NBA players? How the team would look?

    Mike James, Malcom Delaney, TY Lawson, Norris Cole
    Cory Higgins, Lance Stephenson
    Will Clymburn, Sonny Weems
    Derick Williams, Jordan Mickey, Deshaun Thomas
    Brandon Davis, Kyle Hines, Bryant Dunston

    Man, it's tough. I personally can't decide whenever this team would look better than 2019 WC team or not? I don't think even Mike Hames or Higgins is even close to the talent Kemba and Mithell possess, but the team would probably be more physical, experienced and tougher (frontcourt) overall and having way much more FIBA experience, so much more ready for it.

    As for OG, I don't really think USA can really gather such team. Will all these players suddenly available, caring about USA? I'm not sure. If they would, on the paper this is still probably the best roster (without NBA players). But this roster would be completely new, would it work? I would probably think that established and oiled NTs as Serbia, Lithuania, Greece, Argentina and so might have and edge over such roster because of more coherence. Anyway, if USA would gather all best from Euroleague, China, and maybe would add one or two upcoming super studs from NCAA/G league, it would still be the team to beat.
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    ^^^

    Brandon Davies is respected citizen of Uganda and proud member of its national team of the game of basketball, while Dunston played for Armenia


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    ^^^

    Brandon Davies is respected citizen of Uganda and proud member of its national team of the game of basketball, while Dunston played for Armenia


    Looks like this is all moot once again as the NBA bounces around trying to figure out what to do with its 20/21 season. After some horrible ratings for the playoffs, the NBA now looks to avoid going up against the NFL and NCAA football at all costs.

    They state they are now targeting a Christmas start time, a reduced 72 game season with no all-star game (but perhaps a two week break sometime). Reduced travel, more in-market games etc. With goal of having the playoffs done before the Olympics and getting NBA players into the Olympics (Who knows what kind of turnout it could mean for the USA?).

    This could have the regular season finished as early as mid-May (no details announced yet) and easily by mid June and could very meaningfully impact the the Qualifiers.

    Canada for, one could have access to some of the players that miss the playoff or exit in the first round or two. It could mean no Jamal Murray, Kelly Olynyk or Andrew Wiggins - as I expect their teams to go far in the playoffs but many others could be in play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo13 View Post
    Looks like this is all moot once again as the NBA bounces around trying to figure out what to do with its 20/21 season. After some horrible ratings for the playoffs, the NBA now looks to avoid going up against the NFL and NCAA football at all costs.

    They state they are now targeting a Christmas start time, a reduced 72 game season with no all-star game (but perhaps a two week break sometime). Reduced travel, more in-market games etc. With goal of having the playoffs done before the Olympics and getting NBA players into the Olympics (Who knows what kind of turnout it could mean for the USA?).

    This could have the regular season finished as early as mid-May (no details announced yet) and easily by mid June and could very meaningfully impact the the Qualifiers.

    Canada for, one could have access to some of the players that miss the playoff or exit in the first round or two. It could mean no Jamal Murray, Kelly Olynyk or Andrew Wiggins - as I expect their teams to go far in the playoffs but many others could be in play.
    It's still not perfect, I want the best possible teams even for qualies to decide which ones are worthy to qualify to event like Olympics, but anyway that's a great news to read, things are moving to right direction


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    I read today that players are asking league to start with Martin Luther King Day (January 18th). I still don't see how they want to start it at 22nd of December if draft is scheduled for November 18th. I hope I'm wrong but I am pretty sure we will see NBAless Olympics.

    We should know more at October 30th if we are facing December 22nd as the Player's Union has the right of an eight week timespan between agreement with the league and season start. By watching the calender this is already impossible if there's no additional agreement.

    I read ESPN before two days, all world is referring to them and also WOJ retweeted them what is also a good sign but litereally noone implicated that late December is the only option. As i said, i hope I am wrong.
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    Every nation, institution and being should have respect to the Olympic soul. I hope they start in Dec even though some player start playing later. 72 games are also in the interest of the player even though they get less money.

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    Qualifiers delayed for one week. For me no clear reason, but just to mention it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katastroika View Post
    Qualifiers delayed for one week. For me no clear reason, but just to mention it.
    You mean when new dates were announced few months ago? Indeed it was a bit later than original schedule for 2020. Or it was done now again?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    You mean when new dates were announced few months ago? Indeed it was a bit later than original schedule for 2020. Or it was done now again?
    I can just say for Serbian tournament - moved from 22nd June beginning to 29th June beginning and lasts until 4th July. This is new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katastroika View Post
    I can just say for Serbian tournament - moved from 22nd June beginning to 29th June beginning and lasts until 4th July. This is new.
    FIBA looks to be accommodating the NBA the best they can. They want the biggest NBA names in the Olympics as well.

    It is supposedly the latest start date the IOC will allow.

    Good news to me....hopefully more to come with the announcement of an NBA start date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo13 View Post
    FIBA looks to be accommodating the NBA the best they can. They want the biggest NBA names in the Olympics as well.

    It is supposedly the latest start date the IOC will allow.

    Good news to me....hopefully more to come with the announcement of an NBA start date.


    Turns out this isnt news - it was announced in May. Mark Stein let out a Tweet like it was fresh news. Tricked me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katastroika View Post
    I can just say for Serbian tournament - moved from 22nd June beginning to 29th June beginning and lasts until 4th July. This is new.
    Nah, mate, it's not new, such dates were originally announced back in May I thought maybe they moved the tournaments even closer to Olympics, but seems not, maybe those a bit later dates were the only one available for all sides

    https://www.fiba.basketball/news/fib...%204%2C%202021.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    Nah, mate, it's not new, such dates were originally announced back in May I thought maybe they moved the tournaments even closer to Olympics, but seems not, maybe those a bit later dates were the only one available for all sides

    https://www.fiba.basketball/news/fib...%204%2C%202021.
    Thanks for updating me, bro.

    Wr still can't buy tickets here even this is the least important issue now with the current situation. So I maybe missed this one.

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    Still no agreement between NBA and players association. At the end we know now that NBA officials target 22nd December but players association MLK Day. This was the 4th delay of the negotiations. Chances are worse in my opinion. I can even think of a lockout until January if officials declare pre-catholic Christmas start of the season. I understand the symbolic date for African Americans but NBA first time declared a pre-Olympic finish of the season a target so I have to honestly say that I am positively surprised by Adam Silver.

    Official losses of NBA for a delay would be over a billion dollars (12% of earnings). I have a feeling that outcome of US elections could go in favor of a delay. Chances are smaller definitely, I hoped for an agreement yesterday. Deadline is moved to November 6th.

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