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    Default Group D: SRB-ITA-PHI-ANG

    • Serbia (Fiba World Rank: 004)
    • Italy (Fiba World Rank: 013)
    • Philippines (Fiba World Rank: 031)
    • Angola (Fiba World Rank: 039)



    31 August 2019

    Angola - Serbia
    15:30 GMT+08
    City, Arena: Foshan, Foshan International Sports & Cultural Arena
    Game day 1

    Philippines - Italy
    19:30 GMT+08
    City, Arena: Foshan, Foshan International Sports & Cultural Arena
    Game day 1


    2 September 2019

    Italy - Angola
    15:30 GMT+08
    City, Arena: Foshan, Foshan International Sports & Cultural Arena
    Game day 2

    Serbia - Philippines
    19:30 GMT+08
    City, Arena: Foshan, Foshan International Sports & Cultural Arena
    Game day 2


    4 September 2019

    Angola - Philippines
    15:30 GMT+08
    City, Arena: Foshan, Foshan International Sports & Cultural Arena
    Game day 3

    Italy - Serbia
    19:30 GMT+08
    City, Arena: Foshan, Foshan International Sports & Cultural Arena
    Game day 3
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    I think this group is the least exciting when it comes to outcome, because the only game which could potentially be close is ANG-PHI. Yes, I think Italy has no chance against Serbia.
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    Todorovic, Jovanovic and Avramovic cut from SRB squad. Who do you think will be the last two cuts?
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    Imo Simonovic and Bircevic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obina View Post
    Imo Simonovic and Bircevic.
    But then Serbia is left with 4 centers.. Totally insane. Even if Jokic can be pushed to PF, that still leaves Boban, Milutinov and Raduljica. I think Raduljica will be cut for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrRager View Post
    But then Serbia is left with 4 centers.. Totally insane. Even if Jokic can be pushed to PF, that still leaves Boban, Milutinov and Raduljica. I think Raduljica will be cut for sure.
    4 centers that can't play PF is a total overkill, agreed.

    Can someone link to remaining players? I'm too lazy to search threads for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivo View Post
    4 centers that can't play PF is a total overkill, agreed.

    Can someone link to remaining players? I'm too lazy to search threads for it.
    Miloš Teodosić
    Stefan Jović
    Vasilije Micić
    Bogdan Bogdanović
    Marko Gudurić
    Dragan Milosavljević
    Vladimir Lučić
    Marko Simonović
    Nemanja Bjelica
    Stefan Birčević
    Nikola Jokić
    Boban Marjanović
    Nikola Milutinov
    Miroslav Raduljica


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    Miloš Teodosić
    Stefan Jović
    Vasilije Micić
    Bogdan Bogdanović
    Marko Gudurić
    Dragan Milosavljević
    Vladimir Lučić
    Marko Simonović
    Nemanja Bjelica
    Stefan Birčević
    Nikola Jokić
    Boban Marjanović
    Nikola Milutinov
    Miroslav Raduljica
    It's impressive to see all those names together!
    I think they can give USA team a run for their money.

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    Impressive without Bircevic and Simonovic.

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    I wouldn't dismiss Simonović and Birčević just yet due to Jokić effect. He would make these players noticeably better than they are.

    Simonović is a nice spot up shooter and has another quality that fits great with Jokić's skill set - affinity for baseline/backdoor cutting. That skill becomes valuable with a player like Jokić, and if both (unlikely) or one of them make it to the final roster, they should spend all of their minutes with Jokić who will maximize their time on the court.

    It might seem like an easy decision, but I don't think so. With Jokić on the court there is no player on Serbian team that can be viewed as 'conceptual risk' and be neglected on offensive end so that defense can shift focus on better players. Đorđević is smart enough to know that, and both Simonović and Birčević are good enough to exploit all the space given by defense and make it pay for that. And there is no be better player than Jokić in this tournament to punish that kind of approach to less talented players.

    My point is that there is a new argument and perspective to make for valuation of players like Simonović and Birčević due to Jokić's systematic approach to basketball, which means everybody equally participates on offense and hence everybody will have nice looks to contribute and not just stand around.

    IMO, four players are competing for the last two spots - Marjanović (I don't think he is safe yet), Raduljica, Simonović and Birčević.
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    Radu can shoot as well. He learned it in China

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodrigue Beaubois View Post
    I think this group is the least exciting when it comes to outcome, because the only game which could potentially be close is ANG-PHI. Yes, I think Italy has no chance against Serbia.
    Of course... Italy usually suffers physical teams under the basket so i expect much more chance for Italy against Spain in the 2nd group...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    Radu can shoot as well. He learned it in China
    True.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    Miloš Teodosić
    Stefan Jović
    Vasilije Micić
    Bogdan Bogdanović
    Marko Gudurić
    Dragan Milosavljević
    Vladimir Lučić
    Marko Simonović
    Nemanja Bjelica
    Stefan Birčević
    Nikola Jokić
    Boban Marjanović
    Nikola Milutinov
    Miroslav Raduljica
    Thanks!

    Micic
    Guduric
    Bogdan
    Bjelica
    Jokic

    This is quite the lineup, with Teodosic, Jovic, Marjanovic etc as the supporting cast. Still it looks like Serbia is a tad weaker in 3/4 spots compared to 1/2/5. Not calling Kalinic if he didn't have injuries was a questionable decision imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivo View Post
    Thanks!

    Micic
    Guduric
    Bogdan
    Bjelica
    Jokic

    This is quite the lineup, with Teodosic, Jovic, Marjanovic etc as the supporting cast. Still it looks like Serbia is a tad weaker in 3/4 spots compared to 1/2/5. Not calling Kalinic if he didn't have injuries was a questionable decision imho.
    You really dont know the strories behind Nedovic and Kalinic do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    You really dont know the strories behind Nedovic and Kalinic do you?
    I have heard rumors about Kalinic, and I don't want to delve into them tbh, way off-topic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    You really dont know the strories behind Nedovic and Kalinic do you?
    Very few people know the actual reason why Kalinic wasn't called up. He was considered a lock, specially because the SF position is the most vulnerable in the team. Everybody knows about his comments about Kosovo and about the infamous home video. But, is that enough to remove him from the team? Why was he put on the preliminary roster then? There must be something more to that.
    On the other hand, Nedovic was injured during a long period of time, and he has strong competition on his position, so that is easier to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodrigue Beaubois View Post
    Yes, I think Italy has no chance against Serbia.
    I agree,with Melli and Gallo healthy maybe few chances more,without big body it's semi impossible,but in Meo Sacchetti i trust

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    I won't underestimate Italy, even if the star players arrive in China with no games played. They are good pros and surely they know what to do when the time comes. If finally all of them participate to the World Cup(Melli,Gallo) it would be the first time that Italy will have all it's players in recent years. In addition i like the presence of Brooks, it gives them some elements that Italians need to advance.

    Besides that Italy is the worst nightmare of Spain. Spain always struggles with them, and mostly get defeated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulis79 View Post
    If finally all of them participate to the World Cup(Melli,Gallo) it would be the first time that Italy will have all it's players in recent years
    Melli is out of WC. Gallo will play in WC but not appear in any friendlies. Datome will play in WC but will miss Acropolis friendlies.

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