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    Default Group B: ARG-RUS-KOR-NGA

    • Argentina (Fiba World Rank: 005)
    • Russia (Fiba World Rank: 010)
    • Korea (Fiba World Rank: 032)
    • Nigeria (Fiba World Rank: 033)



    31 August 2019

    Russia - Nigeria
    16:30 GMT+08
    City, Arena: Wuhan, Wuhan Sports Centre
    Game day 1

    Argentina - Korea
    20:30 GMT+08
    City, Arena: Wuhan, Wuhan Sports Centre
    Game day 1


    2 September 2019

    Nigeria - Argentina
    16:30 GMT+08
    City, Arena: Wuhan, Wuhan Sports Centre
    Game day 2

    Korea - Russia
    20:30 GMT+08
    City, Arena: Wuhan, Wuhan Sports Centre
    Game day 2


    4 September 2019

    Korea - Nigeria
    16:30 GMT+08
    City, Arena: Wuhan, Wuhan Sports Centre
    Game day 3

    Russia - Argentina
    20:30 GMT+08
    City, Arena: Wuhan, Wuhan Sports Centre
    Game day 3
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    I think this might be the most fun group to follow. It has the most dangerous 3rd and 4th teams of any group other than Group F and H (and maybe Group E as well). Argentina-Russia game will be a must watch affair, because even though these teams will fancy their chances against all Group A teams in the 2nd round, they will want to go into the second round without any losses anyway to avoid undue anxiety.

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    Nigeria is the wild card here, they have the potential to not only turn this group upside down but the 2nd round as well. Safe bet is Argentina and Russia to advance, but I think a three way tie at 2-1 is my favored outcome.
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    I am still confused wether Mozgov is in or out. I think that’s an x-factor for Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valexander View Post
    I am still confused wether Mozgov is in or out. I think that’s an x-factor for Russia
    He is out, hopes to recover for the start of the season, and still it's a bit of a question mark


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    https://www.eurohoops.net/en/fibawc/...for-world-cup/

    The Argentinian Basketball Federation, CABB, named the 12 players that will represent the country through the national team in the 2019 FIBA World Cup. A mix of experience and talent is there with the goal of securing a spot for the 2020 Olympic Games.

    Argentina’s final squad for the 2019 World Cup:

    Nicolas Brussino
    Agustin Caffaro
    Facundo Campazzo
    Gabriel Deck
    Marcos Delia
    Maximo Fjellerup
    Tayavek Gallizzi
    Patricio Garino
    Nicolas Laprovittola
    Lucio Redivo
    Luis Scola
    Luca Vildoza
    The Argentinians are placed in Group B alongside South Korea, Nigeria and Russia. First or second place will lead them to the second group stage, third of fourth to classification games.

    The top two American teams in the final standings will punch their ticket to Olympic Games, set to take place next summer at Japan. Before the Olympics, four more spots will be contested via qualifying tournaments.
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    Don't underestimate Nigeria. I think they can surprise some people.

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    Nigeria is most dangerous from those underdog's, but it have to do also with this group teams.They got those weaker elite teams that's helps alot with upsetting chances.

    I feel Argentina will be just too high IQ team to be beaten simply on athletics,if I were Nigeria I would go all in on first game againts Russia.They have history starting tournaments slowly

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    It's a shame to find the once powerful Argentina in this sorry state. I mean, this is a former Olympic Champion now reduced to compete on the back of a 39-years-old semiretired PF as their only inside scoring threat. The other three big men are going to play in minor leagues (Argentina or Mexico) next year, and Scola has played in China.

    On the other hand they boast a nice PG pair in Campazzo and Laprovittola. Actually PG may be their strongest position as Luca Vildoza is no slouch either. But everything else is subpar. A bunch of unproven wings, Scola, and a big void at center. For an NT that at some point could boast a starting five full of solid NBA players this may be a rough year.

    Anyway, looking forward to the matchup between Ike Diogu and Luis Scola. A classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell Armstrong View Post
    It's a shame to find the once powerful Argentina in this sorry state. I mean, this is a former Olympic Champion now reduced to compete on the back of a 39-years-old semiretired PF as their only inside scoring threat..
    Argentina is not in a sorry state. They are who they always were before this excellent 15 year run. That group has aged and has cycled out. Now Argentina is what they were in the 1980’s and 1990’s, a solid team but not a medal contender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usagre View Post
    Argentina is not in a sorry state. They are who they always were before this excellent 15 year run. That group has aged and has cycled out. Now Argentina is what they were in the 1980’s and 1990’s, a solid team but not a medal contender.
    It's a matter of semantics. I grew up idolizing many of Argentina best players and it just makes me sad to see this team so devoid of talent. I guess that you could be grateful they made it to the World Cup unlike other former great teams (like Croatia) but still...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell Armstrong View Post
    It's a matter of semantics. I grew up idolizing many of Argentina best players and it just makes me sad to see this team so devoid of talent. I guess that you could be grateful they made it to the World Cup unlike other former great teams (like Croatia) but still...
    Yeah I understand. If someone isn’t old enough to go pre 2002 Argentina then to them they only know Argentina as a perennial powerhouse. I am just saying that they weren’t always that like. The previous 20 years to that they were always a respected solid team but not on medal contending caliber. So to me it doesn’t seem that strange to see them revert to that level once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterade View Post
    Don't underestimate Nigeria. I think they can surprise some people.
    Do you guys have a real PG now? You often play a lot of talented individuals but somehow struggle to play under control; so in the same tournament you're able to beat very good teams and still lose winnable games and fail to advance.

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    Nigeria has defined a core of 8-9 players. Uzoh, Iroegbu, Okogie, Nwora, Al-Farouq, Metu, Udoh, Okoye and Alade. Diogu is a mystery. If he is healthy he is in the mix. It's between Eric and Akindele the 11th place. The last one will be probably Vincent.

    As for Russia they have cohesion but without Sved they won't go very far. With him in ,i see them reaching at least QF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulis79 View Post
    without Sved they won't go very far. With him in ,i see them reaching at least QF.
    Is Shved's participation in doubt?

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    They expect him to join tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulis79 View Post
    They expect him to join tomorrow.
    Is he going to play the point? Because I see the Russian team is loaded with shooters (Kulagin, Fridzon, Karasev, Kurbanov) but I don't know who will have the ballhandling duties. Also they seem to be lacking size. Is Vorontsevich their starting center? It's going to be a fun team to watch then, with everyone able to pull up from outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell Armstrong View Post
    Is he going to play the point? Because I see the Russian team is loaded with shooters (Kulagin, Fridzon, Karasev, Kurbanov) but I don't know who will have the ballhandling duties. Also they seem to be lacking size. Is Vorontsevich their starting center? It's going to be a fun team to watch then, with everyone able to pull up from outside.
    Shved always takes control and I guess he will do this there too, simply no other options. D.Kulagin is questionable for WC. His bro probably will take some minutes as back-up PG. Starting C should be Bolomboy, Vorontsevich probably will be starting PF, unless Antonov will resurrect his shape, but now he is out of it, the same like Karasev, whom so far looks very bad, overweight, veteran SG Fridzon is miles ahead nowadays


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    Shved always takes control and I guess he will do this there too, simply no other options. D.Kulagin is questionable for WC. His bro probably will take some minutes as back-up PG. Starting C should be Bolomboy, Vorontsevich probably will be starting PF, unless Antonov will resurrect his shape, but now he is out of it, the same like Karasev, whom so far looks very bad, overweight, veteran SG Fridzon is miles ahead nowadays
    Joel Bolomboy, the former Utah Jazz player? I thought he was ukrainian. Anyway he's a good rebounder but I don't remember him being a rim protector or anything. I guess no team comes fully loaded this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell Armstrong View Post
    Joel Bolomboy, the former Utah Jazz player? I thought he was ukrainian. Anyway he's a good rebounder but I don't remember him being a rim protector or anything. I guess no team comes fully loaded this year.
    Yes, Joel Bolomboy, he spent last season in CSKA Moscow. He was born in Ukraine, but since he moved to USA quite early in his life, don't think he had Ukrainian citizenship, while his mother is Russian, father from Congo


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