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    Default Major Absences from Team Rosters

    If you report absences, I'll update this post accordingly. (I) indicates injured player. (R) indicates retired from NT.

    Angola
    Bruno Fernando
    Silvio Sousa

    Australia
    Jonah Bolden
    Ryan Broekhoff
    Xavier Cooks (I)
    Dante Exum (I)
    Thon Maker
    Brock Motum
    Ben Simmons

    Brazil
    Nene Hilario (R)
    Scott Machado
    Raul Neto (I)

    Canada
    Nickeil Alexander-Walker
    RJ Barrett (I)
    Chris Boucher
    Dillon Brooks (I)
    Brandon Clarke
    Tyler Ennis (I)
    Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
    Cory Joseph?
    Mfiondu Kabengele
    Trey Lyles
    Naz Mitrou-Long
    Jamal Murray (I)
    Kelly Olynyk (I)
    Dwight Powell
    Nik Stauskas
    Tristan Thompson
    Andrew Wiggins

    China
    Ding Yanyuhang (I)

    Czech Republic
    Jan Vesely (I)

    Dominican Republic
    Angel Delgado
    James Feldeine
    Al Horford
    Edgar Sosa
    Karl-Anthony Towns

    France
    Alexis Ajinca
    Rodrigue Beaubois
    Fabien Causeur
    Thomas Heurtel (I)
    Joffrey Lauvergne (I)
    Ian Mahinmi
    Adrien Moerman (I)
    Kevin Seraphin

    Germany
    Isaiah Hartenstein

    Greece
    Giannis Athinaiou (I)
    Tyler Dorsey
    Kosta Koufos
    Kostas Sloukas?

    Iran
    Arsalan Kazemi

    Italy
    Nicolo Melli (I)

    Japan
    Yuki Togashi (I)

    Korea
    Junbeum Jeon (I)
    Sekeun Oh

    Lithuania
    Arturas Gudaitis (I)
    Donatas Motiejunas

    New Zealand
    Steven Adams
    Te Rangi (I)
    Mika Vukona (I)

    Philippines
    Jayson Castro (R)

    Poland
    Tomasz Gielo (I)
    Marcin Gortat (R)
    Maciej Lampe

    Puerto Rico
    Jose Barea (I)
    Tyler Davis
    Maurice Harkless
    John Holland
    Shabazz Napier
    Ricky Sanchez (R)

    Russia
    Joel Bolomboy (I)
    Dmitry Khvostov (I)
    Dmitry Kulagin (I)
    Timofey Mozgov (I)
    Alexey Shved (I)

    Senegal
    Moussa Diagne
    Gorgui Dieng
    Tacko Fall
    Youssoupha Fall
    Biram Faye
    Clevin Hannah
    George Niang

    Serbia
    Nikola Kalinic
    Milan Macvan
    Dragan Milosavljevic (I)
    Nemanja Nedovic
    Milos Teodosic?

    Spain
    Alex Abrines
    Jose Calderon (R)
    Pau Gasol (I)
    Serge Ibaka
    Nikola Mirotic
    Sergio Rodriguez

    Turkey
    Enes Kanter

    USA
    Marvin Bagley
    Bradley Beal
    Jimmy Butler
    Steph Curry
    Anthony Davis
    DeMar DeRozan
    Andre Drummond
    Kevin Durant
    De'Aaron Fox
    Paul George
    Eric Gordon
    James Harden
    Tobias Harris
    Kyrie Irving
    LeBron James
    Kawhi Leonard
    Damian Lillard
    Kevin Love
    Kyle Lowry (I)
    CJ McCollum
    Julius Randle
    JJ Reddick
    Marcus Smart?
    Klay Thompson
    Zion Williamson
    Trae Young (I)

    Venezuela
    Gregory Echenique
    John Cox (R)
    David Cubillan (I)
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    spain dont have on their 16men candidates list Rodriguez, both natur. players Mirotic and Ibaka

    Lithuania biggest lost Gudaitis

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    Exum and Maker for Australia
    Hartenstein for Germany
    Nene and Raul Neto for Brazil.

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    Gortat (Poland)
    Mozgov, Khvostov (Russia)
    Calderon, Abrines (Spain) even tho not the major ones I guess
    Kazemi (Iran)
    Castro (Philippines)
    Kanter (Turkey)
    Adams (New Zealand)
    Causier (France)
    Scott Machado (Brazil)
    Broekhoff (Australia)


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    USA

    LeBron, Steph Curry, Kawhi, Kyrie and Jimmy Butler.

    Durant, Paul George, Klay Thompson injured.

    Not that any of these guys other than probably Butler would have played in a tournament like the World Cup anyway but they were all on the list of 35 players announced in the 2018-2020 player pool last year.

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    Eric Gordon has dropped out for the US. I don’t think he would have made the team anyway. That’s the deepest part of their player pool and I think Gordon is behind Mitchell, Mcollum and Beal. And with Kemba and Lillard at the point he would be the sixth guard. He probably saw the writing on the wall and rather withdraw than be cut for face saving purposes. You can’t break up with me because I am breaking up with you kind of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    Gortat (Poland)
    Mozgov, Khvostov (Russia)
    Calderon, Abrines (Spain) even tho not the major ones I guess
    Kazemi (Iran)
    Castro (Philippines)
    Kanter (Turkey)
    Adams (New Zealand)
    Causier (France)
    Scott Machado (Brazil)
    Broekhoff (Australia)
    I am not sure that Mozgov is official out of the tournament. Gortat is officially retired 4-5 years. Do we still count him?

    Ian Mahinmi for France although he last played at 2009, Kevin Seraphin was part of the team 2 years ago.
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    Put CJ McCollum for USA.

    Gortat is retired and Kanter will never play obviously, I would no account them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obina View Post
    Put CJ McCollum for USA.
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    Just saw that. I think he would have made the team but like I said they are very deep at his position and should still have plenty of shooting on the roster so not that big of a hit.

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    You can also put Al Horford out for the DR. He announced that two weeks ago when he signed his contract with Philly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obina View Post
    Put CJ McCollum for USA.

    Gortat is retired and Kanter will never play obviously, I would no account them.
    Gortat was asked to play again, coach had hopes that he will reconsider, but after some time he declined, so it's an absentee. Kanter won't play obviously, but why it shouldn't be counted as a loss, it is and always will be as long as he will continue to play and could be useful


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawshank View Post
    spain dont have on their 16men candidates list Rodriguez, both natur. players Mirotic and Ibaka

    Lithuania biggest lost Gudaitis
    Lithuania biggest lost D. Motiejunas and the presence of Adomaitis

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    No Thristan Thompson? Have been camping and missed that. That's pretty huge. He's by far the best Canada's defensive big, IMO, and they will get their hands full against Lithuania and even Australia.

    Edit: OK, I got deeper take on the matter by mojo, but it's still huge loss, IMO.


    Quote Originally Posted by mojo13 View Post

    Yes this hurts and I'd like TT to be there, but this is not that big of a loss as you may think. It might actually prove to be a blessing in disguise provided that it's not the start of an avalanche). TT is at the position and is the big that we could most afford to lose. Kelly, Powell, and Birch are better players than TT at this stage of their respective careers. Many of us have been advocating that Khem Birch does everything TT can do and better at this point in time. TT has been banged up allot an comes with too many distractions. Because of legacy TT was given the nod over Khem Birch last summer and because of that Birch was relegated to a very minor role. This clears up that problem.
    Assuming Melvin Ejim was the 5th big (KO, Powell, Birch, TT, Ejim) - this also gives a chance to bring in another younger big into the system. Hopefully Trey Lyles (only 23) who hasnt been involved with Team Canada at all in many years (since the youth days). Or maybe Chris Boucher, who could be a really good fit for FIBA ball (but is too frail defend the Lithuanian bigs). Or maybe this opens the door for Brandon Clarke who is a very tantalizing player - but as I said, I really doubt any rookies will play.

    Thompson ranks second last in all of the NBA for Cs in Real +/- Powell/Birch will bring a lot of the same things Thompson can bring to the table and much more. Khem Birch was the best in the league in paint protection behind only Rudy Gobert from Jan 2019 to the end of the season, and Dwight Powell has been once of the best rim running, PnR bigs in the NBA the last couple years and among the league leaders in efficiency (#1 in TS%, #8 in WS/48, #20 in OWS, #24 in BPM, #33 in WS, #36 in PER) . This seems underappreciated, by even most Canadian fans.

    This isn't like losing Murray, Olynyk, CoJo, Powell or SGA. But I really hope there are no more to pull out (even though I expect it with Brooks). Another factor to consider is the games are spread out with rest days - we can run a top 3 bigs fairly hard without needing to worry too much about rest. In the 2015 FIBA Americas we played 8 games in 9 days (thanks FIBA) and when, by the end with guys ending up in the hospital with food poisoning, more than a few guys ran out of gas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G&B View Post
    Lithuania biggest lost D. Motiejunas and the presence of Adomaitis
    No he isn't.He wasn't even on extendent list 20+ players list.

    Dmo never helped NT even when he played as NBA player should.Always was dissapointing player in 3 years he played...I seriuosly doubt anybody in entire team wanted him back after his circus in EuroBasket 2017 leaving team 3 days before first tournament game and all that star attitude he shown in training camps...

    If National team captain questions his attitude in press thats big deal.Kalnietis never say nothing bad about his teammates atleast I don't recall in 10 years watching him.But if such calm and kind player say that, you definitely went over board with your actions .

    Worst thing hearing Motiejunas interview he don't even see that problem can be in him, he blames everyone around, but not himself...No thank you our hard working team don't need such primadona inside our loockeroom.I don't see hope for him to change his attitude.

    Gudaitis after very good season in euroleague is biggest liths team lose by far
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    Bradley Beal out. That’s big. I thought he had a good chance to lead the team in scoring.
    Team USA getting weaker by the day.

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    Suppose Argentina qualifies for the quarter-finals. The same is the case with the United States, which supposedly faces Canada. And Canada is winning. Argentina also wins. It would be interesting to see in late June the US players to compete in a qualifying tournament.

    I see no commitment from the US players. I so no desire to play for the team. Maybe we are leaning back to year 2004.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulis79 View Post

    I see no commitment from the US players. I so no desire to play for the team. Maybe we are leaning back to year 2004.
    There has never been a commitment from the US players for this tournament. The only difference this year is that our crop of players in their early 20’s aren’t as good as before.

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    All these withdrawals...This is more work than I signed up for.

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    Kevin Love and Damian Lillard are on the fence for their participation.

    https://www.fearthesword.com/2019/7/...fiba-world-cup

    No respect for Pop and Kerr.

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    If this USA team will still grab the title, it's kinda depressing. I'm not yet sold on Serbia to be as good as say 2006 Spain. If there was such as Spain of 2006, I would be pretty sure they are grabbing it.
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