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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    17yo kids at U18 EC:

    JV 19.3 pts, 10,6r, 2,2b
    Sabonis 14pts, 11,4r, 1.4a
    Tubelis 14,9pts, 12,6r, 3,4b, 2,4a
    Sedekerskis 12.6pts, 7r, 2.3a
    Well there's no doubt that Ąžuolas Tubelis turned out to be Lithuania's best player in this year's European U18 championship.Now if he'd just work on his free throw shooting....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher View Post
    It's needed to say that this year's U18 both Lithuanian team and the whole competition were really poor in terms of quality.

    Also Motiejunas can be added btw - 13.6 pts, 6.2r.
    Oh, yeah, missed Motiejunas. But since to me he's more like retired player I kinda forget about him. It's the same as I would put down some Kleiza's performances at that level, it's irrelevant.

    I don't know about these levels...Sabonis' generation was also pretty crappy...JV as 17yo played with a bunch of guards who also couldn't make a single shot. Remember that game when he dropped 37pts...It was ridiculous, no-one realistically helped JV, but he had Peciukevicius, Cizauskas and Varnauskas aorund him, much more capable passers than Tubelis had around. It may go wither way, Sabonis didn't look extremely good au his age category at U18, but the focus was on him. He looked much better in NCAA competition were he had more freedom and defence wasn't collapsing on him alone. Tubelis as I see it had to work hard to make a bucket, the passing of this team was horrid, I mean horrid. No easy points for him. Thus his % is pretty bad from 2. In NKL season he has 60%.
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    Here's the podcast discussing Tubelis at 1:00:07:

    https://www.thestepien.com/2019/09/2...acio-rissotto/
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    Tubelis dunk of the night. LOL how Perlas' coach G.Vileita reacted at the sidelines Saulius Kuzminskas as an assistant coach:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUlRCzLi4Dk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    Tubelis dunk of the night. LOL how Perlas' coach G.Vileita reacted at the sidelines Saulius Kuzminskas as an assistant coach:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUlRCzLi4Dk
    Did he get injured or what? He played like 11 min if I remember correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svajunas View Post
    Did he get injured or what? He played like 11 min if I remember correctly.
    Fouled out. Really sissy calls by NKL refs. I think for athletic dudes like Tubelis should be a real pain in the ass. Overall Euro ball still suffers from inconsistent handling of games physicality. NBA is doing much better job at this point. Off course, Tubelis still pretty wild himself as well, he will learn.
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    Here's Tubelis drops 29pts, highlights:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

    Here's the thing, I'm not particularly satisfied with his progress. He drops almost 17ppg which is great for a 17yo, but I haven't notice obvious improvement in those three months of NKL season. He has the advantage of physicality in terms of the combination of mobility and toughness, much like D. Sabonis, but his skillset basically didn't change. As a matter of fact his shooting % even declined a little bit in all sections, this is huge flaw. He badly needs to add skill and shooting. I'm not sure he's a hard worker, seems like having pretty laid back. If he wants to reach elite level, he needs to start showing improvement in terms of the skill. Once he will get to top level, his physical advantage won't be as obvious and that alone won't be enough.
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    Tubelis was close to beat JV's record in EL next generation tournament with 46PIR (JV's 50). Really stand outs athletically and virtually unstoppable in the fast brakes and generally. If he will add skill and more shooting, he's on his way to be elite big as I projected, but may end up just as short stretches EL big if will remain huge liability shooting the ball.

    Here's couple of his dunks, somehow one huge not involved:

    https://www.facebook.com/BasketNews....8872974366419/
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    Here's the best highlights of Tubelis' feast against Fener:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B8RMGw8j...ource=ig_embed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    Here's the best highlights of Tubelis' feast against Fener:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B8RMGw8j...ource=ig_embed
    it seems he still cant shoot but his ball handling looks tighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    it seems he still cant shoot but his ball handling looks tighter.
    He can't. And I'm not sure he'll ever will. But he can make career as defensive big who can run in transition and get some points finishing of the dribble with the face to face drives. Aside athleticism, he's a quick decision maker, has very quick hands which helps him to handle, steal, block and pass the ball. Athleticism, quick and super strong hands, that's Tubelis.

    Here you can find the diagram of best Lith performances in EL next generation tournament. Domantas Sabonis never played there I guess:

    https://www.15min.lt/eurolyga/naujie...e-1134-1272798
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    He can't. And I'm not sure he'll ever will. But he can make career as defensive big who can run in transition and get some points finishing of the dribble with the face to face drives. Aside athleticism, he's a quick decision maker, has very quick hands which helps him to handle, steal, block and pass the ball. Athleticism, quick and super strong hands, that's Tubelis.

    Here you can find the diagram of best Lith performances in EL next generation tournament. Domantas Sabonis never played there I guess:

    https://www.15min.lt/eurolyga/naujie...e-1134-1272798
    Yeah I know him. I watched him in U16 and U18 i guess and the baltic cup in LTU against Turkey. He is definitely developing.

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    MVP of Kaunas ANGT.

    Interesting stat:

    - JV as 17yo in ANGT: 34.3 PIR.
    - Tubelis as 17yo in ANGT: 34.5 PIR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    MVP of Kaunas ANGT.

    Interesting stat:

    - JV as 17yo in ANGT: 34.3 PIR.
    - Tubelis as 17yo in ANGT: 34.5 PIR.
    If I'm not wrong, JV had those in finals against top youth clubs of that season, not in qualifiers like TUbelis in this one, where level of some clubs was really low, so not really fair to compare


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    If I'm not wrong, JV had those in finals against top youth clubs of that season, not in qualifiers like TUbelis in this one, where level of some clubs was really low, so not really fair to compare
    Maybe. But if that's true, in lesser competition tournament that similar year, JV got 23.5PIR. I don't really think it's unfair, Tubelis is good enough to dominate at such level, whatever the competition, IMO. The bigger question is, what he can provide at PROs when he won't have such obvious physical advantage.
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    Eventually Tubelis went to BWB camp and stood out and was selected among 10 all team players. Pretty solid mark looking towards 2021 drafts. Tubelis really making a name for him self in his age category and he will be destroying his age U18 EB.

    Augustas didn't stand out and I didn't expect Marciulionis to stand out, he's way off physically compared to first phase of the season and way too skinny compared to other athletic and bulked elite prospects in BWB. However, watched how he played and he looked rather confident, facilitated the ball nicely, didn't try to impress with his ISO game, rather tried to bring that BB IQ on the court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    Eventually Tubelis went to BWB camp and stood out and was selected among 10 all team players. Pretty solid mark looking towards 2021 drafts. Didn't expect Marciulionis to stand out, he;s way off physically compared to first phase of the season and way too skinny compared to other athletic and bulked elite prospects in BWB. However, watched how he played and he looked rather confident, facilitated the ball nicely, didn't try to impress with his ISO game, rather tried to bring that BB IQ on the court.
    I dont think he has a chance to be drafted. He bulked up and is strong for his age indeed. He is a great defender but with a height of 204cm who cant shoot, there is hardly a chance of survive. Vasilis Charalampopoulos was for example way more skilled than him. He looks to me a more swift Jankunas. I dont think he will be ready for the drafts next year. But he looks solid enough for a Euroleague career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    I dont think he has a chance to be drafted. He bulked up and is strong for his age indeed. He is a great defender but with a height of 204cm who cant shoot, there is hardly a chance of survive. Vasilis Charalampopoulos was for example way more skilled than him. He looks to me a more swift Jankunas. I dont think he will be ready for the drafts next year. But he looks solid enough for a Euroleague career.
    Nah, he's faster and more mobile than Jankunas. He also has more explosive face to face game and can put the ball on the floor, while Jankunas is traditional PF. Tubelis 206cm already. I think he's more of a center in a long run. I disagree with you. He may not be drafted, but not because of lack of shooting, but because of limited upside if someone would decide that. The key for contemporary bigs is to be able to step out and switch, Tubelis can do that. Shooting is highly required, but not more than some ability to put the ball on the floor, pass the ball, to have good IQ and so on. Tubelis has the package to be drafted, IMO.

    PS: Drafted, doesn't mean to make a career in the NBA. We have Reinaldas Seibutis and Gudaitis drafted, but, IMO, both won't ever play in the NBA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    Nah, he's faster and more mobile than Jankunas. He also has more explosive face to face game and can put the ball on the floor, while Jankunas is traditional PF. Tubelis 206cm already. I think he's more of a center in a long run. I disagree with you. He may not be drafted, but not because of lack of shooting, but because of limited upside if someone would decide that. The key for contemporary bigs is to be able to step out and switch, Tubelis can do that. Shooting is highly required, but not more than some ability to put the ball on the floor, pass the ball, to have good IQ and so on. Tubelis has the package to be drafted, IMO.

    PS: Drafted, doesn't mean to make a career in the NBA. We have Reinaldas Seibutis and Gudaitis drafted, but, IMO, both won't ever play in the NBA.
    Well thats what i said. A swifter Jankunas. The problem with the guy is he lives right now of his strength. His dribble is not tight enough but yes he can put the ball on the floor. I just couldnt see a change of speed and his touch around the rim needs work. To be able to get drafted he needs to prove himself in the first lithuanian league among men. From my limited views he is too limited offensively and too short. The second league shows nothing and all these U18 tournaments too.

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    And no he cant be a center. He has no skill set for being one for europe. Doesnt know how to post up and doesnt like to work around the rim. Kristaps Porzingis is for example the same or even Giannis

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