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    Game 4

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    What a geme. (All the series is live in Charlton, Israel).
    I can see, easly, 7 games here
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    Larkin played in all 4 games, and he is playing with 34 min per game,
    Micic played in all 4 games, and he is playing with 37,5 min per game on this series,

    Closest player to these two from us is Melli with 33,5 min per game, and that's because it's necessary since we lose both of our centers (Vesely and Lauvergne) due to injuries.

    Datome has returned, he played 6 min in the game 3, and 14 min in the game 4, but he is still not %100 ready, perhaps in the game 6 he will be fully ready.
    Since there is no Green, we need more Mahmutoğlu, we won 2 games when he scored +10. Guduric is also playing a terrible series, he only scored 18 pts in the game 3, and we still lost that game. He couldn't even score +10 pts in the other 3 games. We need more Datome, Sloukas and Guduric if we are going to win this series.

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    You can watch the games through following address:

    https://canlitv.plus/trt-spor-canli-izle

    trtspor - next game tomorrow, Monday - 19 CET
    Go Efes Pilsen - Go Turkey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Efesdxb View Post
    You can watch the games through following address:

    https://canlitv.plus/trt-spor-canli-izle

    trtspor - next game tomorrow, Monday - 19 CET
    Thanks.

    What a great finals series!!!
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    That link wouldn't play but I found another.

    Easy. Very easy win for Efes. Is it right that they need 1 more victory to be champions?
    Mi imamo svoga boga, on se zove Bodiroga.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EverGreen View Post
    That link wouldn't play but I found another.

    Easy. Very easy win for Efes. Is it right that they need 1 more victory to be champions?
    yess!!!

    Kalinic and Guduric look pathetic the whole series. Fener paid 2 million euro to serbian teams the get trashes like them.

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    Efes should retire Dunstons Jersey. The guy is great and an icon of stability since the day he arrived. Such a joy to see him in action

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    Quote Originally Posted by EverGreen View Post
    That link wouldn't play but I found another.

    Easy. Very easy win for Efes. Is it right that they need 1 more victory to be champions?
    yeah, they stop broadcasting those links abroad during the game. it might be related to copyright issues, if any TV channel bought the rights.

    Efes has the mental advantage, everyone in the team thinks they can beat Fener, and it shows. But I expect a 7th game, where anything can happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    yess!!!

    Kalinic and Guduric look pathetic the whole series. Fener paid 2 million euro to serbian teams the get trashes like them.
    I gotta disagree on the last 3 words. Kalinic has easily justified his cost and Guduric was a reasonable bet. These are the players you spend money on, imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    yess!!!

    Kalinic and Guduric look pathetic the whole series. Fener paid 2 million euro to serbian teams the get trashes like them.
    I hate to agree with this post as a Fenerbahçe fan, but it's still half true. Not Kalinic, but Guduric is surely a huge disappointment, the time we've invested on him was for nothing it seems. I mean look at micic, and look at guduric... Two different level players, and they are making the only difference on this series, terrible games of guduric, and great games of micic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okanial View Post
    Efes should retire Dunstons Jersey. The guy is great and an icon of stability since the day he arrived. Such a joy to see him in action
    He extended another two years and he will be longest foreign player played for Efes Pilsen. He already played 265 games for EL and TBL. With cup games probably he is around 275-277 games for Efes in 4 seasons. He is a beast and great character.
    I am sure his jersey will be retired.

    Quote Originally Posted by EverGreen View Post
    That link wouldn't play but I found another.

    Easy. Very easy win for Efes. Is it right that they need 1 more victory to be champions?
    If you have problem next game Sport Kulb Serbia is another option. I watched so many TBL games this year from Sport Klub this year.

    Fenerbahce never had their guard rotation and bigs playing good at the same time. Today guards were ok, bigs were crap.
    Dunston + Moerman had 45 pts, 15 rebs, 7 asists together while Melli, Ahmet. Kalinic had 14 pts, 10 rebs 7 assists.
    All three bigs didn't play single second last quarter.

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    As Efes fan I want this series to be finished on Wednesday, but if I was neutral I would want game 7.
    Go Efes Pilsen - Go Turkey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Efesdxb View Post



    If you have problem next game Sport Kulb Serbia is another option. I watched so many TBL games this year from Sport Klub this year.
    Thanks. I watched 2nd half as I was playing some bball myself with some friends before that.

    Veselj missing mean Dunston is having a party. I don't see how Fener can contain him. Zoc will have to pull rabbits out of a hat but still this Efes team is so confident at the moment. Great job by Ataman building a good team within 9 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tevfik1907 View Post
    I hate to agree with this post as a Fenerbahçe fan, but it's still half true. Not Kalinic, but Guduric is surely a huge disappointment, the time we've invested on him was for nothing it seems. I mean look at micic, and look at guduric... Two different level players, and they are making the only difference on this series, terrible games of guduric, and great games of micic.
    Well a young player is always a gamble and if you ask me Guduric never showed the potential Bogdan had shown. I dont get the logic behind signing a foreign prospect anyway. Especially if you have to pay for them since in bb paying the teams is very uncommon. ZOC is a very patriotic man and I think he tries to support serbian teams and raise serbian prospects in foreign teams.

    I would understand it if turkey were like Russia or Greece... very poor countries in terms of having prospects but you have enough in turkey you can raise without paying millions for teams. I dont say ZOC is a racist but he gave serbian player more trust and chances. Fener wont be able to maintain this. Basketball is a additional liability and 1/5 title ratio is too pathetic. I think ZOCs and Gerardinis credibility ends next season...
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    And one thing to Kalinic. His only contribution was his final four performance two years ago. Last season he was more injured than healthy. He is an injury prone and after his zalgiris injury this season he has been playing shitty. He is a fighter for sure but not a top euroleaugue player. Gerardinis player selection in generall is very weird...

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    Zoc does support his countrymen. That's no surprise. I think Kalinic has been successful but not so much for Guduric. He still has time though to shine. Bogdan was out of this world special.

    At PAO we purchased Pekovic, Tepic and Maric with transfers. Only Peko was good. The other two were rubbish. On the other hand he picked up on the cheap both Becirovic and Vujanic who were very good and played big roles. Same applies for Tomasevic which most fans weren't excited about but he was great. Scepanovic without being special was ok for 1-2 seasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EverGreen View Post
    Zoc does support his countrymen. That's no surprise. I think Kalinic has been successful but not so much for Kalinic. He still has time though to shine. Bogdan was out of this world special.

    At PAO we purchased Pekovic, Tepic and Maric with transfers. Only Peko was good. The other two were rubbish. On the other hand he picked up on the cheap both Becirovic and Vujanic who were very good and played big roles. Same applies for Tomasevic which most fans weren't excited about but he was great. Scepanovic without being special was ok for 1-2 seasons.
    Even Bogdan needed 2 seasons to shine. In the middle of the second season i was sure that he wont make the jump and he proved me wrong with the playoff games starting in OAKA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    Even Bogdan needed 2 seasons to shine. In the middle of the second season i was sure that he wont make the jump and he proved me wrong with the playoff games starting in OAKA
    He killed us with 35 Pir in each of first 2 games.
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    Last edited by Tevfik1907; 06-19-2019 at 08:57 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    yess!!!

    Kalinic and Guduric look pathetic the whole series. Fener paid 2 million euro to serbian teams the get trashes like them.
    We would gladly take them back. Some people...

    I bet you have not played a single minute of competitive basketball in your life to call players like them or Sloukas trash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachZ View Post
    We would gladly take them back. Some people...

    I bet you have not played a single minute of competitive basketball in your life to call players like them or Sloukas trash.
    For some Fener fans, it's either "We love you" or " F*** you!" depending on what game they have
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