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    Indonesia having 20 TO games in the IBL. Our transition game will be one of our best advantages

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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
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    I think though CEBU needs a decent arena
    there was a propose arena at sm seaside before that's supposed to be one of the venues for the failed attempt to host wc19 a few years back. i heard it would be just like moa at pasay

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerouac82 View Post
    Hoops Dome in Mactan might be a better location. Just outside the airport and is surrounded by hotels. Toledo is located on the other side of the island and would take an hour or so of land travel. It's like billeting your players in a hotel in MOA and scheduling a game in Araneta. Doesn't make much sense right now.
    agree , and its near the airport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
    can the thais play both lamb and morgan or they will alternate as np for thailand

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    Quote Originally Posted by deviant View Post
    there was a propose arena at sm seaside before that's supposed to be one of the venues for the failed attempt to host wc19 a few years back. i heard it would be just like moa at pasay
    Its still pushing through.


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    Quote Originally Posted by deviant View Post
    can the thais play both lamb and morgan or they will alternate as np for thailand
    Alternates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerouac82 View Post
    Alternates.
    Who is better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    Who is better?
    Lamb can score, but I'd go with Morgan for his defense. He can defend up to the 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerouac82 View Post
    Lamb can score, but I'd go with Morgan for his defense. He can defend up to the 5.
    if i were the thai coach, individual defensive specialty (i.e. norwood) will be of no use against korea and philippines because you have to guard all of their players. it needs collective defense.

    i'd rather go with lamb for scoring purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ja.he View Post
    if i were the thai coach, individual defensive specialty (i.e. norwood) will be of no use against korea and philippines because you have to guard all of their players. it needs collective defense.

    i'd rather go with lamb for scoring purposes.
    Fair point. Maybe if I was coaching Thailand, I'd save Lamb for the more winnable game, ie., Indonesia. Then maybe test Morgan against the PH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerouac82 View Post
    Fair point. Maybe if I was coaching Thailand, I'd save Lamb for the more winnable game, ie., Indonesia. Then maybe test Morgan against the PH.
    actually, i love how koreans run their stagger screen plays. those screens will make individual defense specialists like gabe norwood useless.
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    Is there any chance pa ba on Standhardinger to be considered as a local? I mean guy has been joining non stop competitions for Gilas since 2017 super dami na. (Jones cup, sea games 2017 and 2019, fiba asia cup 2017,fiba world cup qualifying windows, Asian games, fiba 3x3). Any chance he could still be exempted?

    Hell if we are talking about Koame who has no Filipino blood but can be exempted. How about Christian? If we can't get Clarkson to be exempted sana si Christian na lang and just use the slot for naturalize player to clarkson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelGreat8 View Post
    Is there any chance pa ba on Standhardinger to be considered as a local? I mean guy has been joining non stop competitions for Gilas since 2017 super dami na. (Jones cup, sea games 2017 and 2019, fiba asia cup 2017,fiba world cup qualifying windows, Asian games, fiba 3x3). Any chance he could still be exempted?

    Hell if we are talking about Koame who has no Filipino blood but can be exempted. How about Christian? If we can't get Clarkson to be exempted sana si Christian na lang and just use the slot for naturalize player to clarkson.
    Thats a slim to none chance. Other countries will abuse that rule. They will also include ineligible players in non fivmba tournaments for their national team. And I am sure Fiba will be more strict when it comes to more tapented players(like clarkson).

    They exempt Slaughter easily because they onow greg isn't a nba/euro type of players.

    Cstand is known because he plays for germany and us ncaa? In the past.

    But if Fiba allows it, expect all countries to be mixed up. Even Team USA can do that. Oh wait they do that with Tim Duncan back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
    Thats a slim to none chance. Other countries will abuse that rule. They will also include ineligible players in non fivmba tournaments for their national team. And I am sure Fiba will be more strict when it comes to more tapented players(like clarkson).

    They exempt Slaughter easily because they onow greg isn't a nba/euro type of players.

    Cstand is known because he plays for germany and us ncaa? In the past.

    But if Fiba allows it, expect all countries to be mixed up. Even Team USA can do that. Oh wait they do that with Tim Duncan back then.
    Duncan is a special case. He was automatically eligible to play for both the US and the USVI due to the latter being a US territory.

    I don't expect FIBA to give Standhardinger an exemption. He has already played for the Germany U18. Kouame has never played for Cote d'Ivoire at any level, so he has a better chance of being considered a player developed by the Philippine basketball system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
    No Justin Bassey. If I'm not mistaken, Bassey is considered a local unlike either Lamb or Morgan who is considered naturalized player. So if Bassey is in the roster together with either Morgan or Lamb, Thailand will have 2 solid players. The only downside is that Bassey, Lamb & Morgan play the same position being swingmen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    No Justin Bassey. If I'm not mistaken, Bassey is considered a local unlike either Lamb or Morgan who is considered naturalized player. So if Bassey is in the roster together with either Morgan or Lamb, Thailand will have 2 solid players. The only downside is that Bassey, Lamb & Morgan play the same position being swingmen.
    Most likely Bassey couldn't secure a release from Harvard. Morgan can play the 4 position though. And even 5 at the SEA level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    No Justin Bassey. If I'm not mistaken, Bassey is considered a local unlike either Lamb or Morgan who is considered naturalized player. So if Bassey is in the roster together with either Morgan or Lamb, Thailand will have 2 solid players. The only downside is that Bassey, Lamb & Morgan play the same position being swingmen.
    they can actually go small ball.

    G-Muangboon 5'11
    G-Ananti 6'2
    F-Bassey 6'5
    F-Morgan 6'6/Lamb 6'5
    C-Klahan 6'7/ Jakrawan 6'7

    that's a pretty mobile thailand team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelGreat8 View Post
    Is there any chance pa ba on Standhardinger to be considered as a local? I mean guy has been joining non stop competitions for Gilas since 2017 super dami na. (Jones cup, sea games 2017 and 2019, fiba asia cup 2017,fiba world cup qualifying windows, Asian games, fiba 3x3). Any chance he could still be exempted?

    Hell if we are talking about Koame who has no Filipino blood but can be exempted. How about Christian? If we can't get Clarkson to be exempted sana si Christian na lang and just use the slot for naturalize player to clarkson.
    It's not the Philippine citizenship rules that increases chance of being exempted to play as a local (blood lineage), but FiBA guidelines, it isn't theory that Kouame has a chance, the guidelines are clearly spelled out as reasons to be considered for exemption, it just so happens that if Kouame gets a passport, Kouame's circumstances align well with the guidelines for exemption.
    Fortunately or Unfortunately blood is a none factor in the guidelines mentioned
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    No Justin Bassey. If I'm not mistaken, Bassey is considered a local unlike either Lamb or Morgan who is considered naturalized player. So if Bassey is in the roster together with either Morgan or Lamb, Thailand will have 2 solid players. The only downside is that Bassey, Lamb & Morgan play the same position being swingmen.
    Quote Originally Posted by k3ttch View Post
    Most likely Bassey couldn't secure a release from Harvard. Morgan can play the 4 position though. And even 5 at the SEA level.
    ncaa still ongoing that's why no bassey

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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    It's not the Philippine citizenship rules that increases chance of being exempted to play as a local (blood lineage), but FiBA guidelines, it isn't theory that Kouame has a chance, the guidelines are clearly spelled out as reasons to be considered for exemption, it just so happens that if Kouame gets a passport, Kouame's circumstances align well with the guidelines for exemption.
    Fortunately or Unfortunately blood is a none factor in the guidelines mentioned
    In other words. Fiba value more where a player lives, than what is their bloodline. A pure american who lives here for a long time is more filipino
    Than a pure filipino living in other countries. It is like Kouame is more filipino than panopio/ganal according to fiba logic

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