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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    Just a Euro league final 4 PG MVP!
    Playing in euroleague is different from coaching in euroleague. Are you saying if Kai played in euroleague, he can be a good european coach in the future?lol.

    If he coach in euroleague, then i will believe. Playing and coaching are different. In coaching, you need to take care of each players and if they are following the system. If you are playing, you only need to care for yoursef if youbare doing right

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    Youre right, but Dickel and Tab are actually European influence and centric coaches

    Tab's deputy for many years and Dickels coach Nenad Vucenic spent many years coaching in Europe, they all share similar philosophys and in fact in NZ, American oriented coaches are opposed to their European style

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
    Playing in euroleague is different from coaching in euroleague. Are you saying if Kai played in euroleague, he can be a good european coach in the future?lol.

    If he coach in euroleague, then i will believe. Playing and coaching are different. In coaching, you need to take care of each players and if they are following the system. If you are playing, you only need to care for yoursef if youbare doing right
    Playing in euro makes one learn the euro system. I think Dickel is capable of teaching others what he learned. Also, most of these coaches weren’t born coaches. They were once players. Things gotta start somewhere. Finally, learning has no nationality nor bloodline. One absorbs what’s he’s exposed to regardless of skin color or race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
    Well yes. But I would say that a european coach os still more knowledgable. Julio lamas using european system was able to beat Australia just by having hachimura and fazekas worth consideration.(watanabe is ok, but i feel prime castro is better than him).

    Coach dickel cannot do the same with albanian national team.

    But let's give him a chance. We gave a chance to coach yeng, why not dickel who is much better

    that’s why there’s a coaches clinic.. any nationality can attend that and use a european style

    yeah and tab coach malaysia NT and look at the results..

    give a coach talented group of players and expect good results..

    you’re too hard on coach dickel.. yeah give him chance but it feels like you are doubting his coaching skills..

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    Quote Originally Posted by reamily View Post
    To be freaking fair, Dickel is the man if you talk about being a PG..imagine eminem play point guard well
    just imagine jason "white chocolate" williams coaching. hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
    that’s why there’s a coaches clinic.. any nationality can attend that and use a european style

    yeah and tab coach malaysia NT and look at the results..

    give a coach talented group of players and expect good results..

    you’re too hard on coach dickel.. yeah give him chance but it feels like you are doubting his coaching skills..
    So the players are the problem? Not the coach? Well I believe its 60% players 40% coach. Players are the one moving on the court.

    Well Japan is a weak team until coach lamas recruit hachimura and fazekas. Recruiting and filling up roster is coaching job too.

    Nah. Im not hard on him. He is my second choice among three nenad, dickel,sandy. Sandy is the worst coach to fill the head coach role. I belive dickel really deserve a chance.

    The reason I prefer nenad i s because he ia european. And SBP said they will get a EUROPEAN COACH, not a coach that knows european style.

    Anyway, as i said, dickel is not a bad choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    Youre right, but Dickel and Tab are actually European influence and centric coaches

    Tab's deputy for many years and Dickels coach Nenad Vucenic spent many years coaching in Europe, they all share similar philosophys and in fact in NZ, American oriented coaches are opposed to their European style
    Thats why I want nenad to be interim coach

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    So do you want a coach with a European passport or race? Or is a coach with a European oriented coaching principles?
    Which is it, because if its the latter then that's Dickel actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
    Thats why I want nenad to be interim coach
    Sorry for confusion that's a different Nenad I'm talking about, the former NZ coach
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    I think it will help if Dickel spoke in broken English with a Russian accent, so he can be classified as a European coach..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
    So the players are the problem? Not the coach? Well I believe its 60% players 40% coach. Players are the one moving on the court.

    Well Japan is a weak team until coach lamas recruit hachimura and fazekas. Recruiting and filling up roster is coaching job too.

    Nah. Im not hard on him. He is my second choice among three nenad, dickel,sandy. Sandy is the worst coach to fill the head coach role. I belive dickel really deserve a chance.

    The reason I prefer nenad i s because he ia european. And SBP said they will get a EUROPEAN COACH, not a coach that knows european style.

    Anyway, as i said, dickel is not a bad choice
    tab coaching malaysia.. what's the result? and look at toroman with indonesia and compare it with toroman with gilas..

    it's obvious that you are hard on him.. do this, do that. demand this, demand that.. and this is just temporary.. one of the options is to get european or any best coach available and they can get local if they want to.. and dickel is not a bad choice if they make him a permanent one..

    so stop demand this and demand that and hard to dickel each and every post..

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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    So do you want a coach with a European passport or race? Or is a coach with a European oriented coaching principles?
    Which is it, because if its the latter then that's Dickel actually
    Why not both a european with european oriented coach principles. But I am not against dickel

    Has dickel have coached in euroleague? If he does, then he is very much qualified.

    I believe dickel will win 2 oot of 2 games in feb. So i am not against him. But yeah i suppose he is a better interim coach than other pba coaches

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
    Why not both a european with european oriented coach principles. But I am not against dickel

    Has dickel have coached in euroleague? If he does, then he is very much qualified.

    I believe dickel will win 2 oot of 2 games in feb. So i am not against him. But yeah i suppose he is a better interim coach than other pba coaches
    let's rather talk about what dickel can do with the current 24 man pool and training.. and if he's chosen as permanent coach and what are the plans for the seniors team going forward..

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    if you ask me, i'll give dickel a try. yeah, he has yet to win a ring in pba but does not mean a thing. fiba is a different animal from pba and imo, dickel's coaching system will fit in fiba game.

    give him a free hand and a help from tab and trunic.

    he turned pogoy into a scoring machine, trollano into a better 3 and d wing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
    tab coaching malaysia.. what's the result? and look at toroman with indonesia and compare it with toroman with gilas..

    it's obvious that you are hard on him.. do this, do that. demand this, demand that.. and this is just temporary.. one of the options is to get european or any best coach available and they can get local if they want to.. and dickel is not a bad choice if they make him a permanent one..

    so stop demand this and demand that and hard to dickel each and every post..
    Nah. Im not hard on him. Anyway I fully support him. And i believe they will win both games in feb.

    nothing to debate about, dickel would be a good interim coach. This would be my last post about dickel as coach.

    Will be focusing on players now. But there are no final lineup yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
    Nah. Im not hard on him. Anyway I fully support him. And i believe they will win both games in feb.

    nothing to debate about, dickel would be a good interim coach. This would be my last post about dickel as coach.

    Will be focusing on players now. But there are jo final lineup yet.
    yeah nothing to debate but after few post you are talking about dickel about this and that. demand this and that..

    it's obvious you are hard on him..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
    yeah nothing to debate but after few post you are talking about dickel about this and that. demand this and that..

    it's obvious you are hard on him..
    Again that is my last post about that topic. Watching ginebra vs meralco now. Hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
    boomers 24 man pool.. mixture of young and vets

    https://australia.basketball/blog/20...cup-qualifier/
    Just like gilas. Mixing veterans with youths are the trend now

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
    Just like gilas. Mixing veterans with youths are the trend now
    .....that’s always been the trend

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    Philsports arena will be the venue of gilas vs thailand for the 1st window

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