Fiba Asia Cup 2021 Qualifiers

[analyzed]

Alternates.

Who is better?

[kerouac82]

Who is better?

Lamb can score, but I'd go with Morgan for his defense. He can defend up to the 5.

[ja.he]

Lamb can score, but I'd go with Morgan for his defense. He can defend up to the 5.

if i were the thai coach, individual defensive specialty (i.e. norwood) will be of no use against korea and philippines because you have to guard all of their players. it needs collective defense.

i'd rather go with lamb for scoring purposes.

[kerouac82]

if i were the thai coach, individual defensive specialty (i.e. norwood) will be of no use against korea and philippines because you have to guard all of their players. it needs collective defense.

i'd rather go with lamb for scoring purposes.

Fair point. Maybe if I was coaching Thailand, I'd save Lamb for the more winnable game, ie., Indonesia. Then maybe test Morgan against the PH.

[ja.he]

Fair point. Maybe if I was coaching Thailand, I'd save Lamb for the more winnable game, ie., Indonesia. Then maybe test Morgan against the PH.

actually, i love how koreans run their stagger screen plays. those screens will make individual defense specialists like gabe norwood useless.

[DenzelGreat8]

Is there any chance pa ba on Standhardinger to be considered as a local? I mean guy has been joining non stop competitions for Gilas since 2017 super dami na. (Jones cup, sea games 2017 and 2019, fiba asia cup 2017,fiba world cup qualifying windows, Asian games, fiba 3x3). Any chance he could still be exempted?

Hell if we are talking about Koame who has no Filipino blood but can be exempted. How about Christian? If we can't get Clarkson to be exempted sana si Christian na lang and just use the slot for naturalize player to clarkson.

[mathematicianrcg]

Is there any chance pa ba on Standhardinger to be considered as a local? I mean guy has been joining non stop competitions for Gilas since 2017 super dami na. (Jones cup, sea games 2017 and 2019, fiba asia cup 2017,fiba world cup qualifying windows, Asian games, fiba 3x3). Any chance he could still be exempted?

Hell if we are talking about Koame who has no Filipino blood but can be exempted. How about Christian? If we can't get Clarkson to be exempted sana si Christian na lang and just use the slot for naturalize player to clarkson.

Thats a slim to none chance. Other countries will abuse that rule. They will also include ineligible players in non fivmba tournaments for their national team. And I am sure Fiba will be more strict when it comes to more tapented players(like clarkson).

They exempt Slaughter easily because they onow greg isn't a nba/euro type of players.

Cstand is known because he plays for germany and us ncaa? In the past.

But if Fiba allows it, expect all countries to be mixed up. Even Team USA can do that. Oh wait they do that with Tim Duncan back then.

[kerouac82]

Thats a slim to none chance. Other countries will abuse that rule. They will also include ineligible players in non fivmba tournaments for their national team. And I am sure Fiba will be more strict when it comes to more tapented players(like clarkson).

They exempt Slaughter easily because they onow greg isn't a nba/euro type of players.

Cstand is known because he plays for germany and us ncaa? In the past.

But if Fiba allows it, expect all countries to be mixed up. Even Team USA can do that. Oh wait they do that with Tim Duncan back then.

Duncan is a special case. He was automatically eligible to play for both the US and the USVI due to the latter being a US territory.

I don't expect FIBA to give Standhardinger an exemption. He has already played for the Germany U18. Kouame has never played for Cote d'Ivoire at any level, so he has a better chance of being considered a player developed by the Philippine basketball system.

[JAMSKIE]

15 man pool for thailand

https://www.fiba.basketball/asiacup/...021-qualifiers

No Justin Bassey. If I'm not mistaken, Bassey is considered a local unlike either Lamb or Morgan who is considered naturalized player. So if Bassey is in the roster together with either Morgan or Lamb, Thailand will have 2 solid players. The only downside is that Bassey, Lamb & Morgan play the same position being swingmen.

[k3ttch]

No Justin Bassey. If I'm not mistaken, Bassey is considered a local unlike either Lamb or Morgan who is considered naturalized player. So if Bassey is in the roster together with either Morgan or Lamb, Thailand will have 2 solid players. The only downside is that Bassey, Lamb & Morgan play the same position being swingmen.

Most likely Bassey couldn't secure a release from Harvard. Morgan can play the 4 position though. And even 5 at the SEA level.

[ja.he]

No Justin Bassey. If I'm not mistaken, Bassey is considered a local unlike either Lamb or Morgan who is considered naturalized player. So if Bassey is in the roster together with either Morgan or Lamb, Thailand will have 2 solid players. The only downside is that Bassey, Lamb & Morgan play the same position being swingmen.

they can actually go small ball.

G-Muangboon 5'11
G-Ananti 6'2
F-Bassey 6'5
F-Morgan 6'6/Lamb 6'5
C-Klahan 6'7/ Jakrawan 6'7

that's a pretty mobile thailand team.

[analyzed]

Is there any chance pa ba on Standhardinger to be considered as a local? I mean guy has been joining non stop competitions for Gilas since 2017 super dami na. (Jones cup, sea games 2017 and 2019, fiba asia cup 2017,fiba world cup qualifying windows, Asian games, fiba 3x3). Any chance he could still be exempted?

Hell if we are talking about Koame who has no Filipino blood but can be exempted. How about Christian? If we can't get Clarkson to be exempted sana si Christian na lang and just use the slot for naturalize player to clarkson.

It's not the Philippine citizenship rules that increases chance of being exempted to play as a local (blood lineage), but FiBA guidelines, it isn't theory that Kouame has a chance, the guidelines are clearly spelled out as reasons to be considered for exemption, it just so happens that if Kouame gets a passport, Kouame's circumstances align well with the guidelines for exemption.
Fortunately or Unfortunately blood is a none factor in the guidelines mentioned

[Silent Killer]

No Justin Bassey. If I'm not mistaken, Bassey is considered a local unlike either Lamb or Morgan who is considered naturalized player. So if Bassey is in the roster together with either Morgan or Lamb, Thailand will have 2 solid players. The only downside is that Bassey, Lamb & Morgan play the same position being swingmen.

Most likely Bassey couldn't secure a release from Harvard. Morgan can play the 4 position though. And even 5 at the SEA level.

ncaa still ongoing that's why no bassey

[mathematicianrcg]

It's not the Philippine citizenship rules that increases chance of being exempted to play as a local (blood lineage), but FiBA guidelines, it isn't theory that Kouame has a chance, the guidelines are clearly spelled out as reasons to be considered for exemption, it just so happens that if Kouame gets a passport, Kouame's circumstances align well with the guidelines for exemption.
Fortunately or Unfortunately blood is a none factor in the guidelines mentioned

In other words. Fiba value more where a player lives, than what is their bloodline. A pure american who lives here for a long time is more filipino
Than a pure filipino living in other countries. It is like Kouame is more filipino than panopio/ganal according to fiba logic

[DenzelGreat8]

It's not the Philippine citizenship rules that increases chance of being exempted to play as a local (blood lineage), but FiBA guidelines, it isn't theory that Kouame has a chance, the guidelines are clearly spelled out as reasons to be considered for exemption, it just so happens that if Kouame gets a passport, Kouame's circumstances align well with the guidelines for exemption.
Fortunately or Unfortunately blood is a none factor in the guidelines mentioned

Fair. It just really confusing cause Koame came in the RP at age of 18 so we cant really consider the guy as a thon maker type na from the start dun nanirahan sa motherland that he is representing. I mean is this issue pointed out to SBP already? And in case Kouame gets his passport at 21, how would FIBA interpret that? Too late? Since 21 niya nakuha? Or will they factor him coming in Phil at age of 18.

Also, to temper our expectations. Will this case be subjected for our hosting at 2023? Or will this be one on the so far future at 2027?