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Thread: [2019 F4 Final] CSKA Moscow - Anadolu Efes

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    Default [2019 F4 Final] CSKA Moscow - Anadolu Efes

    Efes has team for the title. I wrote that months ago.

    Now it's up to Ataman to find way until Sunday to stop CSKA pick and roll which is their main offensive weapon
    Seems that Higgins is not that hot in this moment like he use to be, De Colo is known ft scorer, so key is how to stop Chacho. Maybe to force him in foul trouble like CSKA did to Tavares tonight

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    a chance to make history for us, just another F4 and title game appearance for CSKA. I hope it shows during the game. but it probably won't. Itoudis knows what he's doing.

    besides, CSKA is stronger where Efes is the strongest. De Colo in form & Rodriguez in form >> Larkin & Micic.

    "Anything can happen in one game", so I hope it does.

    then I'm off to streets until morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levenspiel View Post
    a chance to make history for us, just another F4 and title game appearance for CSKA. I hope it shows during the game. but it probably won't. Itoudis knows what he's doing.

    besides, CSKA is stronger where Efes is the strongest. De Colo in form & Rodriguez in form >> Larkin & Micic.

    "Anything can happen in one game", so I hope it does.

    then I'm off to streets until morning.
    Regarding their age and current form I am not sure Chacho&De Colo> Larkin&Micic in this moment. But historical of course they are bigger.
    Still, CSKA is stronger in some other issues like mentality(which they showed last night), tradition and experience.
    Frontcourt battle could be interesting and it looks to me that Efes has adventage.

    Roster vs roster it's 50:50 imo.

    Ataman vs Itoudis will decide winner, fan support will be factor as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    fan support will be factor as well
    Great point.

    Can we rely on the Fener fans to support Efes? Will there be milli takim havasi (national team sentiment) in the arena or will Fener fans support CSKA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trey from mars View Post
    Great point.

    Can we rely on the Fener fans to support Efes? Will there be milli takim havasi (national team sentiment) in the arena or will Fener fans support CSKA?
    The spaniards (Baskonia and RM) will cheer for Efes. How I said, Efes is a friendly team in Spain. And I dont understand the hate to Ataman, great coach, and his complaints are really funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trey from mars View Post
    Great point.

    Can we rely on the Fener fans to support Efes? Will there be milli takim havasi (national team sentiment) in the arena or will Fener fans support CSKA?
    Ataman asked Fener fans today for support and that's ok. He also called Baskonia fans to support their three ex players

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    Looking odds CSKA is big favorite to win the game.
    But, our poll is quite opposite

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    Go Ergin, destroy that shithead Itoudis

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    Looking odds CSKA is big favorite to win the game.
    But, our poll is quite opposite
    I'd bet some money on efes, I think they have a more or less equal team and are in good form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oly_fan View Post
    I'd bet some money on efes, I think they have a more or less equal team and are in good form.
    I thought to bet earlier before F4 when odd was around 10, but I didn't, hoping(emotional not rational reasons)that we still can beat them in semi

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    I usually support the underdog but I will support Dimitris Itoudis in the final. Efes winning though would be better for basketball. Ataman has done a great job and should be voted coach of the year and Larkin MVP of the EL.

    Hope to see a close final.
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    Quote Originally Posted by papalouki-louk View Post
    Go Ergin, destroy that shithead Itoudis
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    It's really a close game, I would like to see another Turkish team is winning the Euroleague, it will make things more exciting in the TBL finals.
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    better chemistry and more passion efes favorite

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    Regarding their age and current form I am not sure Chacho&De Colo> Larkin&Micic in this moment. But historical of course they are bigger.
    Still, CSKA is stronger in some other issues like mentality(which they showed last night), tradition and experience.
    Frontcourt battle could be interesting and it looks to me that Efes has adventage.

    Roster vs roster it's 50:50 imo.

    Ataman vs Itoudis will decide winner, fan support will be factor as well
    Frontcourt battle will be interesting for sure, but do you really think that Efes's frontcourt is better than Real's or Baskonia's in order to give them any advantage?

    And fan support will be a non-factor, too. If you've listened to pre-game and post-game interviews you might know that CSKA's coaches and players have proclaimed this year a Crusade Against Haters. So, the more haters on the stands should be the better for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Chacho View Post
    The spaniards (Baskonia and RM) will cheer for Efes. How I said, Efes is a friendly team in Spain. And I dont understand the hate to Ataman, great coach, and his complaints are really funny.
    Only fener fans hates Ataman because he have coached Galatasaray before .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deschain View Post
    Ataman, again, makes almost 10 transfers in the off-season.
    Only to finish the season with a 5 player rotation...
    With a bonus of his weekly toxic comments on, well, everything.

    Sad to see him still landing EL jobs.
    After such a bleak season in terms of everything for Efes, Ataman will be the only factor that'll bring any excitement to the club.

    Trying to predict when the inevitable implosion of his team takes place will be the sole fragment of excitement.
    I must say, my pre-season prophecy aged like season 6 GoT theories.
    He even stopped spitting out toxicity here and there.

    All the luck to Efes and to him.
    Efes kinda deserves a title after all these years, instead of a CSKA who has put an unlikable display this year.

    The ceiling of Efes offense is so high that, Efes looks like like it can outgun CSKA in a blitzkrieg.

    Seeing Efes in a final makes me check whether the tournament is in fact EL, not Antalya Rixos Cup or something.
    The sensation is sublime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    Looking odds CSKA is big favorite to win the game.
    But, our poll is quite opposite
    Not so big one, only 4pts spread, so as you know it's one possession there, one here and there's none I think odds are quite right. These few points are given to CSKA for name, experience and little bit better roster. If I had to bet in real life, with real money, after some thinking I'd pick CSKA, but I won't bet on this game, while here, in poll, we can choose whatever we want without a second thought or losing anything


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    Not so big one, only 4pts spread, so as you know it's one possession there, one here and there's none I think odds are quite right. These few points are given to CSKA for name, experience and little bit better roster. If I had to bet in real life, with real money, after some thinking I'd pick CSKA, but I won't bet on this game, while here, in poll, we can choose whatever we want without a second thought or losing anything
    it's even more rewarding here (emotionally) to pick the underdog
    but Efes is the underdog, CSKA the clear favorite.
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