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    Saw the US play earlier and I wasn't impressed. One of the worst US junior teams I've seen in years. They're not very efficient on offense, can't shoot from the outside, and they're porous defensively. If Senegal weren't so careless with the ball and shot better from the outside, the US would've been in serious trouble. Even the things we're traditionally good at (transition basketball, creating TOs, and offensive rebounding), this team struggles to put it together. Unless they pick up the play, this US squad isn't winning gold this year.

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    Greece has some decent players in Arsenopoulos, Rogavopoulos, Karambelas and Sotiriou but the coach (Kastritis) is useless. The team depends on hail Mary three's because they play without any systems.

    Up by 16 points against Argentina yesterday after 25 mins..ended up losing by 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Federoy View Post
    Saw the US play earlier and I wasn't impressed. One of the worst US junior teams I've seen in years. They're not very efficient on offense, can't shoot from the outside, and they're porous defensively. If Senegal weren't so careless with the ball and shot better from the outside, the US would've been in serious trouble. Even the things we're traditionally good at (transition basketball, creating TOs, and offensive rebounding), this team struggles to put it together. Unless they pick up the play, this US squad isn't winning gold this year.

    Kinda agree. Not overly strong inside and lacking shooting, but still have outstanding length in most positions. Some of USA guards are really tall with long wingspans and they still a leading team in efficiency. However, they're one of the worst rebounding, shooting threes teams. So it's interesting. Knock out stage should be fun.
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    Any comments on Mali? I see this country for the first time in basketball (and in sports generally) and they are good. Not a typical no-brainer African team. They ended 3rd in the group (could be better) but got lucky with a draw and will face New Zeland (the best possible 2nd place to match up) and then (if win) Argentina as the easiest opponent who won a group. So Mali has good chances to reach a semifinal.

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    I wrote comment after game against Latvia . I watched also them against Canada .They have excellent pg Kanoute,small,quick, inteligent,with good control of pace, pf Koulibally had good dribble ,good physical abilities ,like mostly players of Mali,long and quick hands ,speed,they close rim,domination in rebound,counter attack and breaking in one of the quarter opponents .

    About game Serbia-France ,I want to write some remarks . Every year Serbia in youth competitions,looks almost same . Play by template,luck of creativity,some individuals which have some partial qualities ,good team rebound ,solid defense,problem with shoots ,compact team,smuggling play and good forced results .France had problem with shoots and on pf and center is obvious luck .But,in France there are some very talented players which have more talent than Serbian players .Ayayi made 32 points ,Pecarski scorred 28 ,but if again played game ,Ayayi again scorred similar number of points but Pecarski maybe didnt .For example,Dimanche play 5 minutes average in Chalon or Cholet,i didnt sure ,but Pecarski didnt play almost nothing in Partizan .Or Ayayi have had 16 points on college,Petrusev had 6 points in college .Due all what i wrote ,Serbia maybe will be better placed than France ,but when time come for that players in senior national team,France will have 3 players ,but Serbia will have 2 players from this generation ,and that is systematical problem of Serbia .

    Its obvious ,Serbia cant to be even close by quickness with France ,22 turnovers and most of them are when France raised up quickness in defense . And crucial period was ,beginning of 4rth quarter when Serbia had seriesof turnovers, but France follow in faults .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher View Post
    Any comments on Mali? I see this country for the first time in basketball (and in sports generally) and they are good. Not a typical no-brainer African team. They ended 3rd in the group (could be better) but got lucky with a draw and will face New Zeland (the best possible 2nd place to match up) and then (if win) Argentina as the easiest opponent who won a group. So Mali has good chances to reach a semifinal.
    this is the first time they will enter the game as favorites to win it.
    knowing how bad african teams usually cope with that I wouldn't say it will be easy for them against New Zealand.
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    Mali was pretty good at the U17 WC last year and to that group they added Coulibaly, headed to Pitt next year, and the Drame twins who have been also playing at a high level in the US. It's not too surprising they that are doing well.

    U19 tournament always kind of depends which players are available. Inagine the US with a full team, France with their U17 stars from last year, Canada with Barrett, Australia with Josh Green. When the top players are missing, other teams can surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    Kinda agree. Not overly strong inside and lacking shooting, but still have outstanding length in most positions. Some of USA guards are really tall with long wingspans and they still a leading team in efficiency. However, they're one of the worst rebounding, shooting threes teams. So it's interesting. Knock out stage should be fun.
    The biggest dissapointment so far for me is Jalen Green, of course he is just 17 but he is considered a big time talent and from what I've see on him from HS highlights he seems to have some Kobe vibe, but so far in the tournament he hasn't done anything special, especially his shot is off. Hope it's just a matter of being 2 years younger than competition because I'm intrigued by his talent. About the rest of the team, I think they are quite talented, just they lack outside shooters that team USA in latest competition had always plenty of them and it was an important aspect of their game, but out of this they have plenty of talent and athletisism, they also miss Evan Mobley but I believe they are still the big favorite. Regarding Senegal, they are a nice team and that's why they gave a fight with team USA at least defensively, they have Biram Faye of Gran Canaria who is a nice talent and I also liked Amar Sylla from what I saw.

    Also congratulations to Mali! They have a very strong squad and now Oumar Ballo is finally unleashed! Btw do you think he has grown any since last year?? He is still listed 6'10 but maybe they haven't update his measurements, idk. If he grows to 7 feet he can become the next big C in the NBA, still he has a wingspan of 7'5-7'6, just WOW!!!

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    Man Lith bigs sucks...Australians climbing all over the boards...
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    Great...best player of our team out with an injury...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EverGreen View Post
    Greece has some decent players in Arsenopoulos, Rogavopoulos, Karambelas and Sotiriou but the coach (Kastritis) is useless. The team depends on hail Mary three's because they play without any systems.

    Up by 16 points against Argentina yesterday after 25 mins..ended up losing by 5.
    Well to be honest I dont think that we can count them all "decent". Charalampopolous was a true leader and much better than Rogka and vanished. The Problem with Rogka is that he is too slow in his movements his mechanics are good but he acts like in slow motion. I dont thnk he has a chance in professional business. Arsenoplolous is really bad in finishing must work on his mechanics. The only really good guy is Karampelas and he is really short but the real greek problem is in centerposition. Watched 3 games of your U20 in turkey (Turgut Atakol Tournament) and is the same problem still. You are practically without a Center if Papagiannis gets injured.

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    OK i watched the greece vs france game and it was horrible. 25% fgp 4/27 three point attempts greek player could barely make 40 points with free throw presents. Watched some U16 games in greece and i think they must change a lot there. Very lame games there is no place for developments. They immediately has to give young guys more chances to play especially cl teams like paok peristeri etc.
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    Chara is undersized for PF(in matchups we saw that he is as tall as 200 Okben Ulubay) and too slow and decent ballhandling for SF therefore he could have problems at pro level but of course he could still end up as a good player. Rogka is another level, he is a huge talent. It´s not important that his moves look slow because his decisions are fast and he is great on 1on1 and his moves are unpredictable. He is very young for this tournament, 14 months younger as Arsenopoulos(talented but chaotic) and already is much better and could even dominate the greek game much more if he wants. Greece has great talents in Rogka & Kalaitzakis twins but nothing on PF/C.

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    In my opinion,dispostion on this tournament is next . Usa ,afterward Serbia and France ,in third group are Mali and Canada ,in fourth Russia,Lithuania,Puerto Rico . This tournament had clear problem with luck of teams in circle for medals .Good is some new national teams which play good ,Mali or Puerto Rico .

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    Game of day is France-Canada,probably only uncertain game, France had bigger chances ,maybe Puerto Rico could surprise Mali,Lithuania also could win,but if Serbia disappoint ,if play correct ,Lithuania doesnt had realistic chances for semi-final.

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    In first half,Mali looks disrupted .Seems like back Ballo disturb roles in team .Kanoute,Koulibaly and Drame play for two level worse . In Puerto Rico Miranda,Curbello and Strawther bear others, very elegant and creative play this three players .

    In second half Mali showed enormous phisical difference ,used defensive weakness of Puerto Rico ,and for few minutes won the game .
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    Game in which you know in 5th minutes who will win .Lithunia raised level untill this game.Serbia play predictable ,with many limits , slowly,in defense often uninteligent .How many point Lithuania made,in transition 1on1 ? Except Pecarski and Petrusev none reliable offensive player . Passive defense ,bad miss match ,some situation few seconds before end of attack made some needless foul.Lithuania have had good shoots,good pnr ,after them Lithunia got wide and quickness .Serbia didnt anything to stop that .Everything this,I write before over time ,I m convinced we will lose ,like I wrote this was obvious in 5th minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemanja View Post
    Game of day is France-Canada,probably only uncertain game, France had bigger chances ,maybe Puerto Rico could surprise Mali,Lithuania also could win,but if Serbia disappoint ,if play correct ,Lithuania doesnt had realistic chances for semi-final.
    If, if,... ,bla, bla,..., funny .., if for Lithuania there would be play Sirvydis , Serbia doesnt have realistic chances for semi-final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G&B View Post
    If, if,... ,bla, bla,..., funny .., if for Lithuania there would be play Sirvydis , Serbia doesnt have realistic chances for semi-final.
    I congratulate win,but probably even you are surprised .How Lithuania played untill this game ,it was very problematic,I was critical on Serbia,but even I thought we will win you .

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    I believe Mali is the first African team to make Top 4 of the FIBA World Cup at any age level, be it U17, U19, or seniors?
    Sige basketball pa, kulelat naman sa World Cup. We Filipinos are still crazy about basketball even if we finished dead last at the World Cup.

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