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    Quote Originally Posted by Furkan Korkmaz View Post
    Yes we're 6th, but our starters played 0 minutes while the Lithuanians played their regular rotations. Judging from Lithuania's performance against our bench I'd say that 5th place would be a piece of cake for us, but this doesn't matter anymore.
    I don't want to change your avatar, I already like your Goksenin and don't intend on changing my Furky. I predicted a sarcastic 6-8 for you, but if we're more serious I think you could manage 3-5.
    I definitely think 1-3 for us. If I have to be even more specific I would say you get 4 we get 1. There is no need to design an entire points system, it's not like theres millions of dollars on the line.
    I want to suggest you to make a specific top 5. I have not taken into consideration the groups and possible matchups though so it's not a comprehensive ranking. Here it is:
    1. Turkey
    2. Spain
    3. France
    4. Serbia
    5. Germany
    Ah, you are such a party breaker Where's the fun-loving spirit at? To be honest, I think you would've looked great with this beauty of an avatar of Ataman I had prepared

    Anyway, my Top 5 coming tomorrow

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    Nice win by Greece today to finish with 3 straight victories and 9th place. Blew a 15-point lead in the 4th before pummeling Ukraine in the OT. Moraitis was not far off an unusual triple double: 25p, 8a, 7s, 28 EFF. G. Kalaitzakis good again with 19p, 8r, 4a, 26 EFF. It looks like both players will finish in the top 5 of the tournament in avg EFF. Limniatis had the team playing well by the end of the tournament; nice ball movement on offense. He had an ace up his sleeve in the OT, going repeatedly inside to the undersized Kambouridis, who looks 45 years old, but has skilled moves in the post. Kambouridis scored 7 points in the OT.

    Moraitis finished 1st in the tournament in steals per game, 2nd in assists per game, 2nd in FT%, 4th in EFF per game. Kalaitzakis finished 1st in points per game, 3rd in EFF per game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    First Erdogan cant shoot. He can just bring the ball and even his ball handling is not tight enough. Erkin Senel can create his shot and needs someone who creates for him. He is bad in everything else. He cant handle "important" games. He looks good in games there is no defense.
    Erdoğan can definitely shoot, probably the best in the team, but I don't think he is allowed. Did you mean Aydoğan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levenspiel View Post
    Erdoğan can definitely shoot, probably the best in the team, but I don't think he is allowed. Did you mean Aydoğan?
    Yeah. This skinny tbl guy. Dont mean the coach of course.

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    Really weird to see two strong 2000 and 2001 generations in div b. Ershov and Mikhailovski on the one side and Petrusev, Ilic, Pokusevski, Pecarski on the other side.

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    Great Britain 8th place, 1-6 record
    Greece 9th place, 5-2 record
    Serbia 15th place 4-3 record

    It's a funny game sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christodoulou76 View Post
    Great Britain 8th place, 1-6 record
    Greece 9th place, 5-2 record
    Serbia 15th place 4-3 record

    It's a funny game sometimes.
    Everything depends on winning the first ko game . You can end up fourth in the groups. If you win the ko games, you can have a negative win/lose ratio.

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    Normally spain is much better than Israel. Israel has problems to create. Spain can create very well but the Center of them is really bad. Israel survives just with willpower.

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    OK, I think its over. Congrats to Israel, great shooting day and they fought for every ball. Never thought a team could grab so many balls from Spain.

    Madar and Avdija seem to have future.

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    I always say that results in Junior competitions do not matter, but it is defently to good to finish 2,1,1 in the last 3 U-20 Eurobaskets.
    And it is defently nice to use home-court support, especially after losing to Greece in Greece in 2017.
    I also like the fact that you can find a common theme between the 3 teams, we do have our Israeli style of playing that suits well the tools we have.

    Everybody can see the hustle, the skills of Avdija or Madar and the home-court advantage but I do think that we won mainly because we were the most coached team by far.
    Our pressure defense worked really well, we gain much more from it in comparison to the minimal amount of points we gave our opponents because of it.
    On offense, we pass 18% more assists per game than the second team in the competition, while having 10% fewer turnovers than any other team which is crazy considering our high pace of the game and the frequent use of transition offense.

    And in the only half when our organized game collapsed completely (first half against France) we had Avdija that kept as alive with some hero ball.

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    Congratulations to Israel for winning the championship by delivering outstanding hustle and performance in every game. Well deserved. The tournament in overall was exciting but the level of basketball was a bit disappointing considering the number of elite prospects that have skipped the tournament. There are still players who sold some hopes to followers and have a great chance to feature serious roles in senior basketball. Avdija, Todorovic, Moraitis, Kalaitzakis, Madar, Velicka, Pecarski, Alocen, Martinez and Sanon were clearly the best players in entire tournament, but Avdija's starlight appears brighter for sure. The kid is special.
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    Generally said, the level of basketball was very low in this tournament. Its indeed well deserved but when I think back a Musa, Korkmaz, Bender, Charalampopolous... they were all more talented than these guys in the tournament and many couldnt establish themselves in the nba. Some couldnt even get a role in Europe. I dont think that here is a really outstanding potential.

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    Historic promotion of Portugal winner of Div. B title over Czech Republic. Also promoted Belgium, third at the expense of Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furkan Korkmaz View Post
    Yes we're 6th, but our starters played 0 minutes while the Lithuanians played their regular rotations. Judging from Lithuania's performance against our bench I'd say that 5th place would be a piece of cake for us, but this doesn't matter anymore.
    I don't want to change your avatar, I already like your Goksenin and don't intend on changing my Furky. I predicted a sarcastic 6-8 for you, but if we're more serious I think you could manage 3-5.
    I definitely think 1-3 for us. If I have to be even more specific I would say you get 4 we get 1. There is no need to design an entire points system, it's not like theres millions of dollars on the line.
    I want to suggest you to make a specific top 5. I have not taken into consideration the groups and possible matchups though so it's not a comprehensive ranking. Here it is:
    1. Turkey
    2. Spain
    3. France
    4. Serbia
    5. Germany
    By judging how easy it was to beat Turkey, I think that they are around 15th ranked team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakkreth View Post
    By judging how easy it was to beat Turkey, I think that they are around 15th ranked team
    http://www.fiba.basketball/europe/u2...y#tab=overview
    Here is the boxscore of that match. These 4 DNP’s are our playmaker and statleaders.
    Childish provocations don’t impress me, just like your team didn’t. If you struggle against our short
    rotation of bench players for 3 quarters you really are far from good. In a serious match you would stand little chance.
    If the Croats hadn’t gift wrapped last match to you in just 30 seconds you wouldn’t even be here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furkan Korkmaz View Post
    http://www.fiba.basketball/europe/u2...y#tab=overview
    Here is the boxscore of that match. These 4 DNP’s are our playmaker and statleaders.
    Childish provocations don’t impress me, just like your team didn’t. If you struggle against our short
    rotation of bench players for 3 quarters you really are far from good. In a serious match you would stand little chance.
    If the Croats hadn’t gift wrapped last match to you in just 30 seconds you wouldn’t even be here.
    Such a hypocrite, starts a provocation then calls me out for it. You got blown out, deal with it.

    Yeah maybe if we get better draw in the quarters we would had played in the finals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakkreth View Post
    Such a hypocrite, starts a provocation then calls me out for it. You got blown out, deal with it.

    Yeah maybe if we get better draw in the quarters we would had played in the finals

    I wasnt even talking to a Lithuanian, let alone try to provoke anything, not my fault that my observation of your team triggered you.

    A better placement? You won your group for crying out loud.
    Ironically not even by your own competence but thanks to Poland,
    and by a great deal of luck versus Greece, a team obliterated by the only serious team they faced and went into overtimes with even B division candidates. You faced Latvia in round 1 does it get better than that?

    Literally... your team has shown nothing impressive, your best player Velicka has been a ghost all tournament, miserable development from his part. Be glad you didnt end second in your group and get a first round exit. You have proven my point that you dont understand anything about what has been going on in this tournament. I recommend you to check that boxscore I linked again, and this time try to process it with your brain, not your behind. I recommend you to stop trying to scam me into believing your team is anything impressive.

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    French prodigy Killian Hayes has been suspended for 6 weeks by the French Basketball Federation for skipping U20 national team duties.

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