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    Host
    China

    Asia (7)
    Australia
    New Zealand
    South Korea
    Japan
    Iran
    Jordan
    Philippines

    Africa (5)
    Nigeria
    Tunisia
    Angola
    SÚnÚgal
    C˘te D'Ivoire

    Americas (7)
    Argentina
    United States
    Venezuela
    Canada
    Brazil
    Dominican Republic
    Puerto Rico

    Europe (12)
    Greece
    Germany
    Czech Republic
    Lithuania
    France
    Spain
    Turkey
    Italy
    Poland
    Russia
    Serbia
    Montenegro

    - post copied from qualification tracking thread - Levenspiel
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    Format:
    1st round: 32 teams will be divided into 8 groups of 4 teams, and the first 2 ranked teams in each group will advance to the 2nd round.
    2nd round: 16 teams will be divided into 4 groups of 4 teams, and the first 2 ranked teams in each group will advance to quarter finals.
    QF==>SF==>F

    the group draws will take place on March 16.

    the pot 1 teams:

    China (30) (hosts)
    United States (1)
    Spain (2)
    France (3)
    Serbia (4)
    Argentina (5)
    Lithuania (6)
    Greece (8)


    in the end, top 8 teams will qualify to 2020 Olympics directly (+ Japan as the host).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levenspiel View Post

    in the end, top 8 teams will qualify to 2020 Olympics directly (+ Japan as the host).
    One clarification, it's not the top 8, it's 7 teams from Europe, Americas, Africa, Asia and Oceania

    Top 2 finishers from Europe and Americas, and the best finisher from Africa, Asia and Oceania qualify for the Olympics. Japan will join those teams as host to make it 8.

    The best 16 (of the teams that don't automatically qualify for the Olympics) will qualify for the Olympic Qualifying Tournaments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtown View Post
    One clarification, it's not the top 8, it's 7 teams from Europe, Americas, Africa, Asia and Oceania

    Top 2 finishers from Europe and Americas, and the best finisher from Africa, Asia and Oceania qualify for the Olympics. Japan will join those teams as host to make it 8.

    The best 16 (of the teams that don't automatically qualify for the Olympics) will qualify for the Olympic Qualifying Tournaments.
    Is it top 1 from Asia and Oceania? Or top two from the now combined Asia-Oceania?
    I thought they got rid of Oceania?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo13 View Post
    Is it top 1 from Asia and Oceania? Or top two from the now combined Asia-Oceania?
    I thought they got rid of Oceania?
    For world cup qualifying yes, but for Olympic qualifying they keep them separate. For proof please check out this fiba's video starting at 1:10.



    Edit Note: For the World Cup Asia/Oceania are together, for the olympic games they're separate, and for for the Olympic Qualifying Tournament they are together again.
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    Unbelievable. I thought the intent was to get rid of that ridiculous two team region. Did the Asian teams lobby for this to ensure they have representation in the Olympics?
    Australia still gets a free pass in almost every major tournament. All they have to do is be better than New Zealand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo13 View Post
    Unbelievable. I thought the intent was to get rid of that ridiculous two team region. Did the Asian teams lobby for this to ensure they have representation in the Olympics?
    Australia still gets a free pass in almost every major tournament. All they have to do is be better than New Zealand.
    The top asian teams are capable of defeating NZ and an Aussie team w/o its top NBA stars even if they are still the slight underdogs.
    Koreans have defeated NZ before. Japan and Iran have defeated Aussie w/o top NBA stars too.
    So yeah, I don't see why they need to lobby for such tactics.

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    Alongside CBB CEO Marcelo Sousa, Petrovic visits players in the United States: "It was great to talk to the three players who were committed"

    Croatian coach of the Brazilian basketball team Aleksandar Petrovic and the executive director of the Brazilian Basketball Confederation (CBB), Marcelo Sousa,

    met from March 22 to 25 with Brazilian players in the NBA. The meetings took place in the United States and are aimed primarily at preparing for

    the World Basketball Championship, which runs from August 31 to September 15 in China.


    The first meeting was with the owner Raul Neto, who plays for the Utah Jazz, on Friday (March 22); then the talk was with pivot Christian Felicius,

    who plays for the Chicago Bulls on Saturday (March 23). And, closing the way across the United States, Petrovic

    and Sousa met with Memphis Grizzlies forward Bruno Caboclo on Monday (March 25).

    - It was great to talk to the three players who were committed and at the disposal of the Brazilian national team, "Petrovic said.

    - I am very pleased with these meetings, which showed that Raul Neto, Cristiano FelÝcio and Bruno Caboclo are eager to defend Brazil at the World Cup in China.

    This is sensational, as well as being important for the formatting of our team, which will have a difficult race ahead, needing to rely on

    its maximum strength - Sousa added.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lemo View Post
    Alongside CBB CEO Marcelo Sousa, Petrovic visits players in the United States: "It was great to talk to the three players who were committed"

    Croatian coach of the Brazilian basketball team Aleksandar Petrovic and the executive director of the Brazilian Basketball Confederation (CBB), Marcelo Sousa,

    met from March 22 to 25 with Brazilian players in the NBA. The meetings took place in the United States and are aimed primarily at preparing for

    the World Basketball Championship, which runs from August 31 to September 15 in China.


    The first meeting was with the owner Raul Neto, who plays for the Utah Jazz, on Friday (March 22); then the talk was with pivot Christian Felicius,

    who plays for the Chicago Bulls on Saturday (March 23). And, closing the way across the United States, Petrovic

    and Sousa met with Memphis Grizzlies forward Bruno Caboclo on Monday (March 25).

    - It was great to talk to the three players who were committed and at the disposal of the Brazilian national team, "Petrovic said.

    - I am very pleased with these meetings, which showed that Raul Neto, Cristiano FelÝcio and Bruno Caboclo are eager to defend Brazil at the World Cup in China.

    This is sensational, as well as being important for the formatting of our team, which will have a difficult race ahead, needing to rely on

    its maximum strength - Sousa added.



    https://globoesporte.globo.com/basqu...aulzinho.ghtml

    This great for Brazil as they were pretty terrible in the qualifiers. Old, slow and in desperate need of a youth and talent infusion. Especially good to see Bruno finally becoming a real player....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo13 View Post
    This great for Brazil as they were pretty terrible in the qualifiers. Old, slow and in desperate need of a youth and talent infusion. Especially good to see Bruno finally becoming a real player....
    Aco Petrovic can't coach, it's proven over and over again. He could not last more than a year anywhere in the last two decades, and regardless of Caboclo, Neto and Felicio playing Brazil imho never had a weaker squad since I can remember, and that's since the 80s. So they definitely might have trouble to advance far in China, and as a matter of fact Montenegro might kick Brazil out in the last game in Nanjing group, if they manage to win against New Zealand at all in the opener. Greece will win that group easily if Giannis shows up.

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    ESPN might want to be better with their coverage. Article today on US team and one of the questions was who the best competition for the US is going to be. Not one mention of Serbia. Good job Windhorst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncjazz View Post
    ESPN might want to be better with their coverage. Article today on US team and one of the questions was who the best competition for the US is going to be. Not one mention of Serbia. Good job Windhorst.
    who did they talked about? Im gonna guess Greece and Spain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncjazz View Post
    ESPN might want to be better with their coverage. Article today on US team and one of the questions was who the best competition for the US is going to be. Not one mention of Serbia. Good job Windhorst.
    To be fair to ESPN they ran a segment on NBA the Jump about the World Cup and they mentioned Serbia as the one team they should be worried about.
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    Giannis' presence has me hoping for something good

    I can't wait to see how he'll be able to perform under FIBA rules.
    We have players that are very good individual defenders, if only we are able to be consistent with our shooting FOR ONCE, we can achieve something positive.
    That would be a top4 finish for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paspalj View Post
    Giannis' presence has me hoping for something good

    I can't wait to see how he'll be able to perform under FIBA rules.
    We have players that are very good individual defenders, if only we are able to be consistent with our shooting FOR ONCE, we can achieve something positive.
    That would be a top4 finish for me.
    Sure. Top-4 would be the better placement for us since 2009 (I think)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adon View Post
    Sure. Top-4 would be the better placement for us since 2009 (I think)
    The thing is that top8 is the bare minimum, and top4 would be an awesome finish. So it's really just one game that separates success from disaster
    Although I guess all teams in knock-out games have this "problem".
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    Quote Originally Posted by paspalj View Post
    The thing is that top8 is the bare minimum, and top4 would be an awesome finish. So it's really just one game that separates success from disaster
    Although I guess all teams in knock-out games have this "problem".
    Indeed. And we have a bad history in such games. Let's hope this time we have what we missed all those years. A true leader who can carry the team when things seem to go south.

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    I'm suprised Giannis signed for this. He plays tons of minutes in NBA and with immense effort at every spot of the court. That's nice. I'm not sure Greece will have this luxury for too long though. 24yo Giannis is still young, but further on I wouldn't bet on him as regular Greek NT member.

    I got this idea today that the best for international teams is to have solid/good Eurolegue's players and NBA role players. Australia without Simmons, Canada without Murray, I'm not sure Jokic and specially Giannis will be regular members of their NTs. Good example of a bad example is I guess Slovenia. They had 2 studs, FIBA superstars in Dragic and Doncic, with both of them they could go against any team in the world, but without them they are not much. Or the same Latvia, with Porzingis and without him...Greece is leaning towards that direction as well. With time NBA stars will be pushed harder and harder to skip international tournaments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    I'm suprised Giannis signed for this. He plays tons of minutes in NBA and with immense effort at every spot of the court. That's nice. I'm not sure Greece will have this luxury for too long though. 24yo Giannis is still young, but further on I wouldn't bet on him as regular Greek NT member.

    I got this idea today that the best for international teams is to have solid/good Eurolegue's players and NBA role players. Australia without Simmons, Canada without Murray, I'm not sure Jokic and specially Giannis will be regular members of their NTs. Good example of a bad example is I guess Slovenia. They had 2 studs, FIBA superstars in Dragic and Doncic, with both of them they could go against any team in the world, but without them they are not much. Or the same Latvia, with Porzingis and without him... With time NBA stars will be pushed harder and harder to skip international tournaments. Greece is leaning towards that direction as well.
    Probably you are right.
    So, we should exploit him as much as we can for as long as we can

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    Be careful that giannis doesnt exploit you on the other hand starting with the question if Kostas stays on the roster or not. The second question is of course with what effort he is going to play. I am really curious about it.

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