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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    Considering the size of our population and how popular basketball is, it's really disappointing that we haven't won an Olympic Gold medal and "produced" an NBA player. There is no other way to look at it other than we've done very poor in developing athletes
    its only now that our athletes have had ample support from government and private sector. look at sea games. although not all athletes but still this sea games many athletes got financial backing. with the current world class facilities we have now at clark, there is now a venue albeit a world class venue where they can hone their skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    Considering the size of our population and how popular basketball is, it's really disappointing that we haven't won an Olympic Gold medal and "produced" an NBA player. There is no other way to look at it other than we've done very poor in developing athletes
    Kai Sotto will be the first pinoy NBA player. Olympic Gold in Basketball is almost impossible with USA and all the strong countries in Europe.

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    Mansueto “Onyok” Velasco is a virtual Olympic gold medalist. That finals match stands as one of the most horrendous robberies of all time. Of course we can’t lay claim on what ifs. But it surely shows that getting Olympic gold isn’t exactly a tall order. We just have to identify the disciplines wherein we really have a decent shot.
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    There are only 13 countries in the world with populations of over 100 million people: China, India, the United States, Indonesia, Brazil, Pakistan, Nigeria, Bangladesh, Russia, Mexico, Japan, Ethiopia, and the Philippines.

    Of the 13, only Bangladesh and the Philippines have never won an Olympic gold.

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    I do believe we have enough talents to produce an Olympic gold medalist. The problem is the lack of decent sport programs, funding, world class facilities and worst of all corruption. Outside of popular sports like Basketball and women's volleyball there isn't much support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bballcrazy View Post
    Kai Sotto will be the first pinoy NBA player. Olympic Gold in Basketball is almost impossible with USA and all the strong countries in Europe.
    It's too early to say at this point, tbh. Internet hype doesn't mean he can reach the NBA that easily. Once Kai plays in a much higher level competition he won't get 15-20 minutes of playing time instantly he still has to fight for minutes and prove his worth.

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    Kai will make it to the NBA sure Yan.

    The only question is will he be a star player caliber? or haddadi level na sandali Lang sa NBA? or for marketing lang Gaya ni Zhu Qi?

    Hard to tell now but Kai talent skills specially height NBA bound Yan, and of course he needs to stay healty that's the most important thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_GOAT View Post
    Kai will make it to the NBA sure Yan.

    The only question is will he be a star player caliber? or haddadi level na sandali Lang sa NBA? or for marketing lang Gaya ni Zhu Qi?

    Hard to tell now but Kai talent skills specially height NBA bound Yan, and of course he needs to stay healty that's the most important thing.

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    Kai if ever he makes the NBA, his level of success and PT isn't dependent on his offensive skill which is given but his ability to play pick and roll defence and switch, if he doesn't improve in those areas of weakness he won't play and possibly won't be drafted.

    His effectiveness and need for Gilas and FIBA ball is much more certain or playing in Europe, simply because of the rules (no illegal defence), he can stay in the paint. It's really the nature and style of the NBA game that makes it difficult for Kai

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    Quote Originally Posted by j_diddy View Post
    Indonesia actually has a couple of young 7 footers in the pipipeline. Couple that with their impressive 3 point shooting then I wouldn't be surprised if they are the next China in our region.
    Quote Originally Posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    they have. relatively raw. but surely with regular training camps in serbia would do wonders for them. i do hope rajko becomes the program director.
    Key there are skills, body strength & physical toughness. If those 7-foot Indons are as soft as pillows then they can only go so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    Yes, that actually my dream for the Philippines to win a Gold medal and for us to return to the Olympics in basketball
    Yun lang muna, sa buhay ko, it is too much to ask to be a Superpower
    We are a basketball superpower naman in South East Asia. Don't you know that?

    Just kidding
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    Since entering the league in 2012, Nikola Jokic has proven time and time again that he has the ability and talent to be a perennial NBA all-star. And averaging nearly a triple-double last season only hammered down that potential. Although, if there was one flaw in his game – and it’s actually a pretty big flaw – it’s been his inability to play defense at a high level

    Nikola Jokic has emerged as the next great big to man the Nuggets’ offense. Though, his inability on the other end of the floor has robbed him from being one of the best two-way, and complete, players in the league today.

    Specifically, the big defensive flaw that has plagued his career is without a doubt his ability to defend inside and out when defending the pick-and-roll. After securing the No. 2 seed in the Western Conference, headed into the playoffs, last season, Denver defeated the seasoned San Antonio Spurs in seven games.

    https://www.google.com.ph/amp/s/sirc...c-defense/amp/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    Key there are skills, body strength & physical toughness. If those 7-foot Indons are as soft as pillows then they can only go so far.
    If they are slow and soft then they aren't really much to worry about.

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    I think the NBA has “no illegal defense” rule?


    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    Kai if ever he makes the NBA, his level of success and PT isn't dependent on his offensive skill which is given but his ability to play pick and roll defence and switch, if he doesn't improve in those areas of weakness he won't play and possibly won't be drafted.

    His effectiveness and need for Gilas and FIBA ball is much more certain or playing in Europe, simply because of the rules (no illegal defence), he can stay in the paint. It's really the nature and style of the NBA game that makes it difficult for Kai

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Bones View Post
    I think the NBA has “no illegal defense” rule?
    for 3 seconds.. "defensive 3 seconds"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
    for 3 seconds.. "defensive 3 seconds"
    Defensive Three-Second Rule

    a. The count starts when the offensive team is in control of the ball in the frontcourt.

    b. Any defensive player, who is positioned in the 16-foot lane or the area extending 4 feet past the lane endline, must be actively guarding an opponent within three seconds. Actively guarding means being within arms length of an offensive player and in a guarding position.

    c. Any defensive player may play any offensive player. The defenders may double-team any player.

    d. The defensive three-second count is suspended when: (1) a player is in the act of shooting, (2) there is a loss of team control, (3) the defender is actively guarding an opponent, (4) the defender completely clears the 16-foot lane or (5) it is imminent the defender will become legal.

    e. If the defender is guarding the player with the ball, he may be located in the 16-foot lane. This defender is not required to be in an actively guarding/arms distance position. If another defender actively guards the player with the ball, the original defender must actively guard an opponent or exit the 16-foot lane. Once the offensive player passes the ball, the defender must actively guard an opponent or exit the 16-foot lane.

    PENALTY: A technical foul shall be assessed. The offensive team retains possession on the sideline at the free throw line extended nearest the point of interruption. The shot clock shall remain the same as when play was interrupted or reset to 14 seconds, whichever is greater. If a violation is whistled during a successful field goal attempt, the violation shall be ignored and play shall resume as after any successful basket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Bones View Post
    I think the NBA has “no illegal defense” rule?
    Haha tagal na wala nyan, early 2000 pa naabolish yan. That made the bigs try and develop outside shots because, 1. the shaded lane is more crowded and 2. They can no longer stretch the floor for their teammates by simply camping outside.
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    If illegal defense gets its way back to the NBA in lieu of defensive 3, Giannis would probably average more points than Harden. The lanes would be much wider than ever in a spread out offense. Ngayon defenses can sag as long as they don’t stay inside for more than 3secs. Before you really have to be a certain distance from your man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Since entering the league in 2012, Nikola Jokic has proven time and time again that he has the ability and talent to be a perennial NBA all-star. And averaging nearly a triple-double last season only hammered down that potential. Although, if there was one flaw in his game – and it’s actually a pretty big flaw – it’s been his inability to play defense at a high level

    Nikola Jokic has emerged as the next great big to man the Nuggets’ offense. Though, his inability on the other end of the floor has robbed him from being one of the best two-way, and complete, players in the league today.

    Specifically, the big defensive flaw that has plagued his career is without a doubt his ability to defend inside and out when defending the pick-and-roll. After securing the No. 2 seed in the Western Conference, headed into the playoffs, last season, Denver defeated the seasoned San Antonio Spurs in seven games.

    https://www.google.com.ph/amp/s/sirc...c-defense/amp/
    The success of below average athletes in the NBA like Jokic and now Doncic and even Harden show that even in the NBA that a lack of above average athleticism is not a stumbling block to being an effective player. Skill and BBIQ are still the most important aspects of a player.

    Tell me which is more realistic, June Mar developing a reliable 3 pt shot and a one dribble counter or Japeth growing balls in international competition? I think it's close. I think the only thing limiting June Mar's development is his coach in SMB and his adverseness to change and development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IshmaelM View Post
    The success of below average athletes in the NBA like Jokic and now Doncic and even Harden show that even in the NBA that a lack of above average athleticism is not a stumbling block to being an effective player. Skill and BBIQ are still the most important aspects of a player.

    Tell me which is more realistic, June Mar developing a reliable 3 pt shot and a one dribble counter or Japeth growing balls in international competition? I think it's close. I think the only thing limiting June Mar's development is his coach in SMB and his adverseness to change and development.
    He actually said after the world cup he wants to add more things to his game and prevent stagnant development. The problem is his coach and diet

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