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  • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
    swing offense is very predictable offense that's why tab needs to tweak his coaching playbook.

    i like ballscreen continuity offense because it is a better offense. i found it to have little predictability on it. little tweaks=big changes in plays. watch australia as they are top team that uses this style.

    wonder why no coaches do this system. IMO, a team that is coached by a coach that mastered ballscreen continuity, flex offense, and pick and roll plays is pretty unstoppable.
    That ball screen dependent offense (patty mills offense) was checked by serbia last olympics..And I dont think it will susrvive with the elite of europe(spain or france if complete)
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
    1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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    • Originally posted by reamily View Post
      Swing offense isnt really euro, he just become euro ball centric when he got several national team gigs, commend him on being able to adjust and able to instill his system to players and the bosses to believe that his system would work..
      Tab's just fooling people with terminology, there actually is no such thing as a system called swing offense, Lol
      The only reason Tab used the word swing is to communicate things to others. eh the Philippine public kept referring to DDO, which actually is one of the only systems that uses a basketball action word for its name(dribble and Drive), so here comes Tab, sige I will call the system as Swing LOL., Have you ever heard Tab refer to Ateneo system as Swing LOL, of course not because that was never really an offensive system, Invention lang ni Tab yan as a word, tayo naman uto uto
      As proof Tab runs clinics never ever has he had a session on the swing offense, because in reality there is no such thing
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      • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
        Tab's just fooling people with terminology, there actually is no such thing as a system called swing offense, Lol
        The only reason Tab used the word swing is to communicate things to others. eh the Philippine public kept referring to DDO, which actually is one of the only systems that uses a basketball action word for its name(dribble and Drive), so here comes Tab, sige I will call the system as Swing LOL., Have you ever heard Tab refer to Ateneo system as Swing LOL, of course not because that was never really an offensive system, Invention lang ni Tab yan as a word, tayo naman uto uto
        As proof Tab runs clinics never ever has he had a session on the swing offense, because in reality there is no such thing
        how about if i say yes, there is really swing offense? hehehe i was able to watch several times four years ago to see if tab runs such thing kasi naiintriga ako dati if tab is really the man for the job for gilas.



        although i am not insisting tab, there is a thing called swing offense.
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        • Originally posted by sajubeads View Post
          Ow come on bro, we all become a Chot Reyes fanafic just to take a a jab at Tab. If Chot was handling Gilas in 2016, we wont be even playing in OQT as no way Chot can bring Gilas to a podium finish in 2015Fiba Asia
          With blatche? We were likely heading to 2nd place overall behind australia (and 1st in asia) in the recent wcq if not for the basketbrawl. It would not be a reach. In oqt, it was basically the same team in 2013 but with blatche, romeo and parks. How could that not be an upgrade. Besides familiarity of chots system was already there.

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          • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
            how about if i say yes, there is really swing offense? hehehe i was able to watch several times four years ago to see if tab runs such thing kasi naiintriga ako dati if tab is really the man for the job for gilas.



            although i am not insisting tab, there is a thing called swing offense.
            Correction on my part, however my point isn't that there is no swing offense, but that Tab isn't really a coach that mainly uses Swing like Chot is a DDO guy. That's to much of a generalisation that Tab is a swing system guy and therefore not Euro style.
            In fact you actually see very little of the swing offense in the teams Tab has coached, OQT, TBs or Ateneo. It's not accurate to say he's a swing offense coach
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            • how about coach yeng guiao system??������. if you got open, shoot it with no hesitation.hehehe
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              • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
                Correction on my part, however my point isn't that there is no swing offense, but that Tab isn't really a coach that mainly uses Swing like Chot is a DDO guy. That's to much of a generalisation that Tab is a swing system guy and therefore not Euro style.
                In fact you actually see very little of the swing offense in the teams Tab has coached, OQT, TBs or Ateneo. It's not accurate to say he's a swing offense coach
                actually, chot's ddo is no ddo at all tbh. korea's game style is closer to ddo than those of gilas.
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                • Originally posted by tootch View Post
                  how about coach yeng guiao system??������. if you got open, shoot it with no hesitation.hehehe
                  Wag kayo. Once this coach gets the rythm of fiba basketball, he will surpass chot. Lol.

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                  • Can't help but imagine Coach Yeng Guiao with Tab Baldwin as his asst coach. You get Yeng's charisma to get the player's and the PBA's buy-in, with Tab's basketball acumen.

                    Then complete the lineup with Pido and Norman Black. Tako na lang pwede mo ng sargohin.

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                    • People have to realize that in the OQT, France and New Zealand allotted close to a month preparing mainly on Gilas. Why? For both it was the crucial 1st game. (win 1 and you advance), Note no world level team in the last decade including all our 2014 World Cup opponents prepared mainly for us in the same way. The only world level NT that prepared for us with the same focus is Australia in the 3rd window (and we saw the results).

                      It's for this reason that many coaches globally felt we actually overachieve and performed very well in the 2016 OQT (stayed close for 3 quarters), it's just that Pinoy fans had false incorrect expectations brought about by our 2014 WC performance (which is really different scenario as being unknlowns and could surprise teams who were thinking of the next game or preparation were focus on stronger teams)
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                      • You bet, nz prepared well against ph! Sa scouting pa lng... Lol

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                        • Originally posted by manu_bol View Post
                          You bet, nz prepared well against ph! Sa scouting pa lng... Lol
                          Tama, it's true, what OQT team would be foolish not to prepare and scout well for their 1st opponent for a two game tournament? No team does otherwise.
                          What do you expect the NZ coaching staff to do when Gilas was playing France in the 1st game, watch porn? LOL, Of course they will scout and prep like did for a month for their next game. Isn't that what they're paid to do?
                          Last edited by analyzed; 06-10-2019, 09:57 AM.
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                          • Originally posted by manu_bol View Post
                            You bet, nz prepared well against ph! Sa scouting pa lng... Lol
                            Originally posted by analyzed View Post
                            Tama, it's true, what OQT team would be foolish not to prepare and scout well for their 1st opponent for a two game tournament? No team does otherwise
                            and the World Cup 2019 begins..
                            Ang PRIDE parang panty, pag hindi binaba walang mangyayari...

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                            • before, i was a believer that filipinos is at far with the rest of the globe even after an early elimination in 2007. come 2009, we lost badly to the west asians. lost all of my remaining faith to phil basketball until smart-gilas came. i was in owe when an all-amateur team destroyed the powerade-pilipinas by yeng.

                              beginning that game, i am a believer that we need to hire foreign coaches armed with overseas experience to guide not only our players but also our coaches.

                              about norman and compton? they are filipino-styled coaches. they brought nothing new to our basketball. watch their respective teams to know what i am saying.

                              tim cone? he is a bit different but his style is already obsolete - it is stucked in 90's.

                              the connection in this thread? we need help from a foreign coach maybe not head coaching per se but scouting reports, additional inputs among others if we want to be competitive this world cup. japan, for all of their nationalism, hired julio lamas and used to hire coach hobbes and donald wisman. why can't we?
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                              • Originally posted by Cloner View Post
                                and the World Cup 2019 begins..
                                Its good that IBN is in World Cup mode now, while for Gials, di pa hahahhha
                                To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                                1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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