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    Default Euroleague Regular Season: Week 16

    Efes v Bayern Munich
    Milano v Buducnost
    Real Madrid v Maccabi
    Gran Canaria v Khimki
    Fener v Baskonia
    Zalgiris v CSKA
    Olympiacos v Panathinaikos
    Barça v Daçka

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    Lets see how coach Pitino is going to react in the most hostile environment of his entire career.
    It should be interesting if Pana continues to show the same energy as in the game with the Russians...


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    If Oly loses this game after losing to Dacka, then Blatt's future in Piraeus will be questioned. They are slightly favorite and their fans can't accept another defeat.

    Real, Fener, Efes, Milan, Madrid and Barca are heavy favorites.

    Zalgris vs. CSKA, CSKA is slightly favorite due to Zalgris's bad situation, I didn't expect them to lose at Canaria, I would say CSKA is the heavy favorite if they weren't playing terrible at Athens.

    Gran Canaria vs. Khimki, Canaria is slighlty favorite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tevfik1907 View Post
    If Oly loses this game after losing to Dacka, then Blatt's future in Piraeus will be questioned. They are slightly favorite and their fans can't accept another defeat.

    Real, Fener, Efes, Milan, Madrid and Barca are heavy favorites.

    Zalgris vs. CSKA, CSKA is slightly favorite due to Zalgris's bad situation, I didn't expect them to lose at Canaria, I would say CSKA is the heavy favorite if they weren't playing terrible at Athens.

    Gran Canaria vs. Khimki, Canaria is slighlty favorite.
    Kavaliauskas is one of the guys you want to rely on when you playing against CSKA. He's on injury, and even if he will have any playing time he's going to be out of shape. Marius Grigonis questionable as well, losing him makes it harder in the defensive-end against elite back-court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tevfik1907 View Post
    If Oly loses this game after losing to Dacka, then Blatt's future in Piraeus will be questioned.
    Not really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tevfik1907 View Post
    If Oly loses this game after losing to Dacka, then Blatt's future in Piraeus will be questioned. They are slightly favorite and their fans can't accept another defeat.
    This I hear in Turkish media, even in some pretty good podcasts too, and I don't understand. if Oly stays out of playoffs, maybe. Same thing with Itoudis. I don't think it's gonna happen during the season, if it ever happens.

    that's too heavy emphasis on half-season results, which does not actually mean that much. Many Efes fans for example want Ataman out at the end of the season, even though he seems to have improved the results considerably.
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    Blatt's position is secure, no matter what happens this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tevfik1907 View Post
    Zalgris vs. CSKA, CSKA is slightly favorite due to Zalgris's bad situation, I didn't expect them to lose at Canaria, I would say CSKA is the heavy favorite if they weren't playing terrible at Athens.
    I'd really like a win for Žalgiris, because already too many games lost at home to expect top 8,and always pleasant to win versus CSKA, but this has really few chances to happen. As you said Kaunas is in a bad situation because of all those important injuries, but in addition to that, CSKA is/was in a bad strike and will clearly need to end that and start 2019 with a victory.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Levenspiel View Post
    This I hear in Turkish media, even in some pretty good podcasts too, and I don't understand. if Oly stays out of playoffs, maybe. Same thing with Itoudis. I don't think it's gonna happen during the season, if it ever happens.

    that's too heavy emphasis on half-season results, which does not actually mean that much. Many Efes fans for example want Ataman out at the end of the season, even though he seems to have improved the results considerably.
    Ataman sent right players end of season and created almost best team in this short period. I dont like him as a person, but not many of coaches could do what he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levenspiel View Post
    This I hear in Turkish media, even in some pretty good podcasts too, and I don't understand.
    Do they think losing to Dacka is such a big deal? We have terrible losses every season. The worst one was when Davide Pascolo of all people obliterated us a couple years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paganist View Post
    Ataman sent right players end of season and created almost best team in this short period. I dont like him as a person, but not many of coaches could do what he did.
    Ataman is doing "generally" good job, but losses against Real Madrid at home and Barca away was mostly by his poor coaching. On the other hand win vs Fenerbahce was by his good coaching.
    The point that I criticize him is overusing some players too much - Micic, Dunston, Moerman. They are used 30+ minutes on all games (domestic & euroleague) and not giving enough chance to local players...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oly_fan View Post
    Do they think losing to Dacka is such a big deal? We have terrible losses every season. The worst one was when Davide Pascolo of all people obliterated us a couple years ago.
    I can only speculate that they may be thinking Oly's record this year, as a powerhouse and after hiring a top coach like Blatt, is not as impressive (as they expected). so they may be thinking Oly fans/managers are not happy.
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    before the season started, you'd think Larkin is gonna rock, and Micic would try to get back-up minutes. It's the complete opposite, Larkin is given minutes (he doesn't deserve), and the entire team is trying to collect his pieces. Great game by Moerman when needed. Anderson also played like he heard Efes is looking for a replacement.
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    Campazzo making another unintentional move and getting wilbekin out this time

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    Macabbi was better than in TelAviv, but in the last quarter, most of their attacks ended in turnovers. Great game by Ayón (Tyus great warrior), TT and Randolph. Rudy is in his second youth, and Llull had an irregular game (he did a double double at the end).

    About Mac, Bryant is good, but really soft. Roll with 6/7 from 3pt had a great night. Wilbekin who was wonderful at Dacka, seems another player, although he GOT injured in a play WITH Rudy.

    Avdija and Zoosman could get more minutes. Mac should watch more to the european market, insteaf of signing average americans.

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    Second quarter in Las Palmas, 6:27. And Armani scored 112 points against Buducnost without two important players.

    Boring round, with not so much interesting games, except the "derby of the eternal enemies", of course.

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    Again Tarik Black didn't play, it's the third game he misses. Of course it was impossible to beat Real with the actual roster (Pargo is still out and it seems he won't come back till the end of January). From this game we keep Roll's excellent performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmercer80 View Post
    Again Tarik Black didn't play, it's the third game he misses. Of course it was impossible to beat Real with the actual roster (Pargo is still out and it seems he won't come back till the end of January). From this game we keep Roll's excellent performance.
    Caloiaro and Tyus also played well.
    Wilbekin on the other hand played bad again.

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    Wilbekin can be a star in only Eurocup, not in Euroleague. Some smart people said he is better than Dixon just because he scored against weak teams, he needs to prove himself against mid and high level EL teams and he didn't do that yet.
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    Watching Obradovic interview he intends to involve young players next season. I don't know exact status of Biberovic in this moment and if he should consider as naturalised player which means that he must wait for Dixon to retire or to play as foreigner. When I asked here for his status one Efes fan answered that he is licenced for BSL but he probably just guessed without knowing exact situation.

    Obradovic mentioned Tirpanci too as big talent who is moved on his request from center to pg with his 200cm.

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