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    Anyone who has connections with SBP, Mr. Mascarinas or MVP... Iam in correspondence with his father, the reason Ethan is not playing basketball ,its because of nagging knee pain, a certain Knee injury (sorry Im not at a liberty to divulge it as it is against data privacy law to divulge the specifics someones medical record without the consent of the patient or parent).. I ask the father to join here, so that he would be the one to give the medical status of Ethan.. Suffice to say that, he needs knee Surgery , Arthroscopic Surgery, and rehab of about 6 weeks... Cost of operation is Australia is about 10K Aussie plus rehab, they can do it in Public hospitals ,they there is a backlog they have to wait for 1 year to have the operation done. It will move back Ethans progress if he has to wait for 1 year for the operation and another 2-3 months for rehab.. Itbwill certainly stagnate his growth...

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    Ethans dad has access and is in touch with the SBP people, so no need to course thru here. He can let them know
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    Ethans dad has access and is in touch with the SBP people, so no need to course thru here. He can let them know
    He said, his only contact is Mr. Andrew Teh, the Batang Gilas manager... Actually , he is not asking for help naman,they are just waiting if ever for the schedule of the OR through public institution/service... I just thought that perhaps we can help... He sent me the copy of the medical abstract, and the plan of the Orthopedic Surgeon... Being the medical profession, I offered him if he want to have the operation here in the Philippines, I can have my service for free(Anesthesology) but Im not a Sports Medicine/Orthopedic Surgeon, and my practice in the province, so there might be some problem with accreditation in the hospital if the operation is done in Manila... I mentioned Dr. Raul Canlas, the most reknowned Sport Medicine Specialist here in the Philippines.... Hope somebody can help the father and Ethan , have contact or visit with Dr. Canlas... Siguro being with the SBP as part of Medical Committee , he can have the operation on discounted fee...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sajubeads View Post
    He said, his only contact is Mr. Andrew Teh, the Batang Gilas manager... Actually , he is not asking for help naman,they are just waiting if ever for the schedule of the OR through public institution/service... I just thought that perhaps we can help... He sent me the copy of the medical abstract, and the plan of the Orthopedic Surgeon... Being the medical profession, I offered him if he want to have the operation here in the Philippines, I can have my service for free(Anesthesology) but Im not a Sports Medicine/Orthopedic Surgeon, and my practice in the province, so there might be some problem with accreditation in the hospital if the operation is done in Manila... I mentioned Dr. Raul Canlas, the most reknowned Sport Medicine Specialist here in the Philippines.... Hope somebody can help the father and Ethan , have contact or visit with Dr. Canlas... Siguro being with the SBP as part of Medical Committee , he can have the operation on discounted fee...
    Perhaps he can be referred to the Sports Medicine dept of PGH? I am sure whatever charges he will incur in PGH will be at least much cheaper compared to other Ph hospitals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sajubeads View Post
    Anyone who has connections with SBP, Mr. Mascarinas or MVP... Iam in correspondence with his father, the reason Ethan is not playing basketball ,its because of nagging knee pain, a certain Knee injury (sorry Im not at a liberty to divulge it as it is against data privacy law to divulge the specifics someones medical record without the consent of the patient or parent).. I ask the father to join here, so that he would be the one to give the medical status of Ethan.. Suffice to say that, he needs knee Surgery , Arthroscopic Surgery, and rehab of about 6 weeks... Cost of operation is Australia is about 10K Aussie plus rehab, they can do it in Public hospitals ,they there is a backlog they have to wait for 1 year to have the operation done. It will move back Ethans progress if he has to wait for 1 year for the operation and another 2-3 months for rehab.. Itbwill certainly stagnate his growth...

    Hope can help Ethan in this...


    I thought HIPAA law applies in the US only,if the fine in Australia is low and no prison time then by all means invade his privacy,JK.Well its a common big man problem,just look at GS and JF with modern medicine he can bounce back.He can rehab in the Philippines,I think sports medicine in the Philippines is not that far behind from first world countries.

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    Andrew Teh is still the best channel for MVP or SBP help.
    For those who want to help individually. Good on you. May God bless you
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARMIR View Post
    I thought HIPAA law applies in the US only,if the fine in Australia is low and no prison time then by all means invade his privacy,JK.Well its a common big man problem,just look at GS and JF with modern medicine he can bounce back.He can rehab in the Philippines,I think sports medicine in the Philippines is not that far behind from first world countries.
    its the rehab that is the deal breaker... The operation can vbe done as day surgery, here in thebPhilippines, he can be discharge 1-2 days, but the rehab will be around 6-8 weeks.. Kaya they are just contemplating of having the operation in Australia, although yung sked nia, by next year pa..

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    The PGH therapists are topmnotch and much cheaper. Have everything done at PGH. The pay rooms at the 7th floor are surprisingly nicer and more spacious compared to the luxury hospitals. DLSU players actually go to PGH for therapy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by live_evil View Post
    The PGH therapists are topmnotch and much cheaper. Have everything done at PGH. The pay rooms at the 7th floor are surprisingly nicer and more spacious compared to the luxury hospitals. DLSU players actually go to PGH for therapy.

    I talked to the father of Ethan today for around 30 minutes... The reason that Ethan is not playing anymore is because of the naggin pain on his knees, to the extent that
    their is pain on his knees after a jumpshot, so his stats went down also. Ethan has to have his knees fixed in order for him to play again..The problem is the cost of the operation is well beyond their means, 10,000 AuD, plus rehab of 100 AUD.

    Im actually telling him if he can ask him from SBP guys , since Ethan is actually a Batang Gilas recruit, they have a signed contract that Ethan will play for Batang Gilas , no monetary considerations included.. The father is hesitant, since the way he see it, people in Manila, that they are asking to many demands already, and he thinks unless Ethan plays well, no one will take a look at him...

    As for the issue of taking so many demands, he said , all he ask is a job to shoulder the stay of Ethan here... Its NU who offered a job for Micheal , the father..He took the job even though it is one third of whatbhe is receiving in Australia just to be with Ethan. Another thing is the school, as a parent he want a good school academically, problem is NU is not that good academically... San Beda also offered but problem is the courses in SBU does not fits Ethans interest as SBU are more geared towards Law , Pol Sci... Ethans interest and strength are into writing and artistic sides...Ethan has to go back to Australia as the academically NU is well below Australian standards, halos di na sila pumapasok sa school and he also Failed in Filipino subject...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sajubeads View Post
    I talked to the father of Ethan today for around 30 minutes... The reason that Ethan is not playing anymore is because of the naggin pain on his knees, to the extent that
    their is pain on his knees after a jumpshot, so his stats went down also. Ethan has to have his knees fixed in order for him to play again..The problem is the cost of the operation is well beyond their means, 10,000 AuD, plus rehab of 100 AUD.

    Im actually telling him if he can ask him from SBP guys , since Ethan is actually a Batang Gilas recruit, they have a signed contract that Ethan will play for Batang Gilas , no monetary considerations included.. The father is hesitant, since the way he see it, people in Manila, that they are asking to many demands already, and he thinks unless Ethan plays well, no one will take a look at him...

    As for the issue of taking so many demands, he said , all he ask is a job to shoulder the stay of Ethan here... Its NU who offered a job for Micheal , the father..He took the job even though it is one third of whatbhe is receiving in Australia just to be with Ethan. Another thing is the school, as a parent he want a good school academically, problem is NU is not that good academically... San Beda also offered but problem is the courses in SBU does not fits Ethans interest as SBU are more geared towards Law , Pol Sci... Ethans interest and strength are into writing and artistic sides...Ethan has to go back to Australia as the academically NU is well below Australian standards, halos di na sila pumapasok sa school and he also Failed in Filipino subject...
    Writing and artistic? DLS-GH HS then, then CSB for college. They have an IB (international baccalaureate) program at DLS Greenhills so the education should be at par with what he gets in Australia.

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    Ethan is actually suffering from Bilaterao (both knees) Jumper's knee in layman' s term. Because of the pain on the knee on landing after a jump, he dont jump anymore on his jumpshots or reboundingbwhuch lead to poor stats... The pain was bearable after his NU stint, and in fact he even practice in Canberra's AIS... The pain just become unbearabke thus he stop playing basketball... Si naman talaga ayaw magbasketball not because of lose of interest but because pain on his knees while palying basketball...

    As for the operation, it can be done here in the Philippines and the rehab can be done in Australia, problem is after lower extremity surgery, patients are not allowee to take prolonged airplane flights due to risk Deep Vein Thrombosis( forming of clot bin the leg whichbcan emboli or the clots can be thrown to the lungs...

    Afterbthe Christmas break, Ethan wont have school ubtil February, so that can be the window for the Surgery of the first knee...Rehabs for 6 weeks and another knee can be operated ... With the time table, Ethan if fix next year, he can be included in 2020 under 18 team...

    Actually for College or once he is of legal age , the parents are actually planning of just Ethan going to Philippines to study and play so that the famiky wontbhave to relocate here.. Isa lang gusto nila, Ethan can make to good school that offers courses that interest him... They think NU is not that good academically while they have friends in San Beda , it specializes in Law, Nursing and Pol Sci courses that dont interest Ethan. Although , there was no offer, they are ok with UP because they said UP is one the top school in the Phil and even in the whole world and offers courses of Ethans interest.. The father said is good in writing and other artistic endeavors...

    Again its a chicken and egg thing. If we dont get fix, have surgery, he can play basketball.. If he can play , basketball no school will foot the bill for his Surgery... Thus they are stuck with the option of having the operation done in Australia under Public System, but they have to wait the queue which will take whoke year for the ooeration and rehab of one knee. Ethan will be outbof basjetball for almost 2 precious years supposedly reserve for skills development and improvement....

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    Quote Originally Posted by k3ttch View Post
    Writing and artistic? DLS-GH HS then, then CSB for college. They have an IB (international baccalaureate) program at DLS Greenhills so the education should be at par with what he gets in Australia.
    Naisip ko nga rin ang CSB.. I alSo mentioned to Michael , Ateneo, but he said, they dont know anyone from Ateneo. They know Coach Joe Silva but he niw gone... Tab is so busy naman to be bothered.. Besides they have Kai Sotto already...

    Although they want Ethan to finish HS in Australia na muna, so that they dont have to relocate here... Once he is old enough in College, Ethan can go and study here by himself...

    Wala sila kilala sa mga schools dito, aside from San Beda that dont offer courses to Ethans liking and NU na to them ,not known globally, to give Ethan a fallback if his basketball career ends or dont pan out well..

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    UP is the best option for Ethan. With the renewed support from alumni because 9f the basketball team success, it won't be a problem to find doctors and therapists who could offer services at a discount. And it is the best school in the Philippines. Hahaha And PGH is the best hopital in terms of quality service and value for money especially in the pay ward. Of course, the charity ward is a whole different planet entirely.
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    Bilateral jumpers knee, or probably something like Osgood-Schlatter disease which is common in adolescent athletes. Easy enough to fix even here in the Philippines.

    To save time, he might want both knees operated on at once. Saves having to pay for two hospital admissions and two surgeries and having to go under anesthesia twice. And two separate rehab programs for each knee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k3ttch View Post
    Bilateral jumpers knee, or probably something like Osgood-Schlatter disease which is common in adolescent athletes. Easy enough to fix even here in the Philippines.

    To save time, he might want both knees operated on at once. Saves having to pay for two hospital admissions and two surgeries and having to go under anesthesia twice. And two separate rehab programs for each knee.
    While it may practical to do the operation on both knees at once, but on medical point of view, it is not advisable, as the patient will be wont be able to walk during the entire period of recuperation, no weight bearing on that initially for around 6-8 week period . IF the operation is unilateral, he can walk on his nonoperative leg then using a crutch on the other side. More complication also as the operative time will be longer, more blood loss, risk of pulmonary embolism from fat embolism will be higher...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sajubeads View Post
    While it may practical to do the operation on both knees at once, but on medical point of view, it is not advisable, as the patient will be wont be able to walk during the entire period of recuperation, no weight bearing on that initially for around 6-8 week period . IF the operation is unilateral, he can walk on his nonoperative leg then using a crutch on the other side. More complication also as the operative time will be longer, more blood loss, risk of pulmonary embolism from fat embolism will be higher...
    The protocols for post patellar tendon repair rehab call for weight bearing as tolerated post-op as long as the knee is in an immobilizer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k3ttch View Post
    The protocols for post patellar tendon repair rehab call for weight bearing as tolerated post-op as long as the knee is in an immobilizer.
    Ok bro, but aside from Jumper's knee and Patellar Maltracking, Ethan also has Chondromalacia patella (softening of the cartilage on the undersurface of the patellaon both knees which may require either just Debridement(clean up) , cartilage transfer/graft or even screw implantation to strengthen it... The procedure to be done will depend on the intraop findings .. Those procedure , weight bearing initially is prohibitted..

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    In laymans term, Ethan is having Jumper's knee and Runner's knee on both knees... Both are caused by wear and tear as well as among others his being flat footed also..

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    Hi sajubeads, DM. #GoUSTe
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